NBA Playoffs Thread

[BigOrangeTrain]

50 ppg? That’s completely absurd

Why? MJ was a better scorer than anyone in this era. Like I said, no big men to stop him in the lane, he would have adjusted to the 3 pt shot and he was a very good FT shooter.

He couldnt do it with any consistency but for one season? I could see it.

 

[volnbama_]

Why? MJ was a better scorer than anyone in this era. Like I said, no big men to stop him in the lane, he would have adjusted to the 3 pt shot and he was a very good FT shooter.

He couldnt do it with any consistency but for one season? I could see it.

The only chance he’d average 50 ppg is if you plugged him into the Sam Hinkie 76ers lineup. He certainly wouldn’t be winning to get those numbers. And Durant is as good a pure scorer the NBA has ever seen and he’s never sniffed close to 40 ppg in this era

 

[Caleb59seal]

Nostalgia is getting the best of you. That last paragraph sounds more football than basketball. Lebron plays as physical as anyone and constantly bullies his way to the rim. You either don’t watch much or don’t know what you’re watching

I agree that he maybe apart from Green is the most physical in the game now. However, whenever you can offensively impose your will without giving a defender a way to defend from that happening that is playing physical. That’s my whole point the game isn’t physical because no one can articulate what a foul truly is. So how can you ha e a good defense whenever you’re not allowed to defend. The object of the game is to get a ball in a bucket, while maintaining a dribble to get close enough to shoot. Well if you don’t allow me stop progress of the dribble or the shoot then what am I suppose to do other than just jump with him and hope he misses it. The last time I checked basketball was still labeled a contact sport soooo why is any contact a foul. I remember fights and people not liking each other because the physical nature of the game now that is nonexistent because of the lack of contact. It’s obvious. And sense the object is to score then the new era rules to impede defenders from defending makes the offensive players look like some of the greatest of all time and defensive players useless. You can’t even make an argument for an MJ vs LBJ argument because they aren’t even on the same planet as far as foul rules go. How am I gonna be able to accurately tell you that LBJ is better than MJ because MJ got the crap smacked out of him and the biggest thing LBJ gets is a body bump or a smack to the eye... it’s apples and oranges.

 

[n_huffhines]

I agree that he maybe apart from Green is the most physical in the game now. However, whenever you can offensively impose your will without giving a defender a way to defend from that happening that is playing physical. That’s my whole point the game isn’t physical because no one can articulate what a foul truly is. So how can you ha e a good defense whenever you’re not allowed to defend. The object of the game is to get a ball in a bucket, while maintaining a dribble to get close enough to shoot. Well if you don’t allow me stop progress of the dribble or the shoot then what am I suppose to do other than just jump with him and hope he misses it. The last time I checked basketball was still labeled a contact sport soooo why is any contact a foul. I remember fights and people not liking each other because the physical nature of the game now that is nonexistent because of the lack of contact. It’s obvious. And sense the object is to score then the new era rules to impede defenders from defending makes the offensive players look like some of the greatest of all time and defensive players useless. You can’t even make an argument for an MJ vs LBJ argument because they aren’t even on the same planet as far as foul rules go. How am I gonna be able to accurately tell you that LBJ is better than MJ because MJ got the crap smacked out of him and the biggest thing LBJ gets is a body bump or a smack to the eye... it’s apples and oranges.

What are you talking about? There is plenty of contact. Watch hockey or football and let basketball be basketball.

 

[BadJerry20]

Ostertag x 2, Ervin Johnson, Mark West, Divac, and Kevin Duckworth...these are the centers MJ faced in Finals. You didn't see David Robinson every game, just like you don't see Deandre Jordan every game now.

That scrub ass Ervin Johnson barely played, how dare you disrespect Sam Perkins.

 

[n_huffhines]

That scrub ass Ervin Johnson barely played, how dare you disrespect Sam Perkins.

LOL, I actually don't mind Johnson. I don't think he was that bad, but he wasn't great either.

It is crazy how lucky Jordan was in finals draws. No great rim protectors and pretty pedestrian perimeter D for the most part. He also didn't have to guard anybody that great, outside of Drexler and a 32 YO Hornacek. He was pretty well set up for success.

 

[BadJerry20]

LOL, I actually don't mind Johnson. I don't think he was that bad, but he wasn't great either.

It is crazy how lucky Jordan was in finals draws. No great rim protectors and pretty pedestrian perimeter D for the most part. He also didn't have to guard anybody that great, outside of Drexler and a 32 YO Hornacek. He was pretty well set up for success.

Now Thunder Dan would like a word with you. Lol

 

[n_huffhines]

Now Thunder Dan would like a word with you. Lol

Hawkins and Majerle could bust, so there is that. Did he guard GP? I don't remember. I do remember they put him on Stockton sometimes because Stockton was a little quick for Harper.

 

[BadJerry20]

Hawkins and Majerle could bust, so there is that. Did he guard GP? I don't remember. I do remember they put him on Stockton sometimes because Stockton was a little quick for Harper.

Nah, he guarded Hersey mostly, even less on GP once GP switched to guarding him. If only Karl wasn't an idiot MJ fans would be screaming 5-1.

 

[n_huffhines]

I don't think people should be that hard on Smith. On the net, that was a positive play. Let's not forget he got a rare offensive rebound off a FT and ran out the clock. That's a much better result than GS getting a final shot.

RE: a clip has emerged of Lebron going to the bench and asking Lue "did we have a timeout?" And Lue says "yeah". Lebron is visibly devastated. The coach can only directly impact what happens on the floor in one way and that's through managing timeouts. Any decent coach recognizes JR is confused and calls a timeout with at least 2 seconds left.

 

[BadJerry20]

MJs legacy takes a hit, GPs shoots through the roof, Sonics stay together and win 2-3 titles, they never move, and I never have to cheer for Ray Ray, Singler or Perk...**** you George Karl...**** you.


Of course I never fall in love with Steven Adams, so that would suck.

 

[volnbama_]

RE: a clip has emerged of Lebron going to the bench and asking Lue "did we have a timeout?" And Lue says "yeah". Lebron is visibly devastated. The coach can only directly impact what happens on the floor in one way and that's through managing timeouts. Any decent coach recognizes JR is confused and calls a timeout with at least 2 seconds left.

Ty Lue might be the worst coach in the NBA. I’d love to see him coach without Lebron so he can be exposed as the coaching fraud he is

 

[n_huffhines]

Ty Lue might be the worst coach in the NBA. I’d love to see him coach without Lebron so he can be exposed as the coaching fraud he is

I think he does have some really good qualities as an NBA coach, but as a strategist/X's and O's, he's laughable.

 

[volnbama_]

I think he does have some really good qualities as an NBA coach, but as a strategist/X's and O's, he's laughable.

I think he can manage a locker room and the players like him but I think that plays better as the assistant.

 

[n_huffhines]

I think he can manage a locker room and the players like him but I think that plays better as the assistant.

This. With all the attention the Cavs and Lebron get, it's sort of remarkable how positive the press usually is.

Also, on a personal note, he is not obnoxious on the sidelines. He's very calm and collected. I've always liked watching D'Antoni teams, but he's such a child during the games.

 

[BadJerry20]

RE: a clip has emerged of Lebron going to the bench and asking Lue "did we have a timeout?" And Lue says "yeah". Lebron is visibly devastated. The coach can only directly impact what happens on the floor in one way and that's through managing timeouts. Any decent coach recognizes JR is confused and calls a timeout with at least 2 seconds left.

Wait, so LBJ didn't know either? Well then, JR is off the hook and MJ is the GOAT.

 

[k-town_king]

RE: a clip has emerged of Lebron going to the bench and asking Lue "did we have a timeout?" And Lue says "yeah". Lebron is visibly devastated. The coach can only directly impact what happens on the floor in one way and that's through managing timeouts. Any decent coach recognizes JR is confused and calls a timeout with at least 2 seconds left.

Lebron showed in that clip once again why he is not the goat. He is not a leader at all. Complete b**** move in the situation.

Lebron also should have known the timeout situation. He should have called timeout.

 

[n_huffhines]

Wait, so LBJ didn't know either? Well then, JR is off the hook and MJ is the GOAT.

Lebron did call call timeout with about 1 second left, but I don't think you can get it while a pass to George Hill is traveling through the air. He was getting into position for the game winner and calling for the pass. He's the one person out of six who I think you can completely absolve in all this*.

*except for the criticism that Smith and Lue are his guys

 

[n_huffhines]

Lebron showed in that clip once again why he is not the goat. He is not a leader at all. Complete b**** move in the situation.

Lebron also should have known the timeout situation. He should have called timeout.

He did call timeout.

What is the complete bull**** move? Getting upset?

 

[95 Vol Alum]

I'm with huff. Sure looked like Lebron was trying to get a TO once he realized that everyone, including his coach, was drawing blanks in their head. It's just easy to blame JR and move on but Lue should be feeling the heat.

 

[Cdywolfe]

Lebron showed in that clip once again why he is not the goat. He is not a leader at all. Complete b**** move in the situation.

Lebron also should have known the timeout situation. He should have called timeout.

Good lord... This is why it’s hard to take you seriously. He was trying to call a timeout.

 

[BadJerry20]

Lebron did call call timeout with about 1 second left, but I don't think you can get it while a pass to George Hill is traveling through the air. He was getting into position for the game winner and calling for the pass. He's the one person out of six who I think you can completely absolve in all this*.

*except for the criticism that Smith and Lue are his guys

You know I'm just kicking the hornets nest right?

 

[BadJerry20]

I'm with huff. Sure looked like Lebron was trying to get a TO once he realized that everyone, including his coach, was drawing blanks in their head. It's just easy to blame JR and move on but Lue should be feeling the heat.

MJ would have realized immediately, called a TO, then hit the game winner...GOAT

 

[n_huffhines]

MJ would have realized immediately, called a TO, then hit the game winner...GOAT

Wrong. Bulls would have already closed out the series.

 

[k-town_king]

He did call timeout.

What is the complete bull**** move? Getting upset?

The b@@@ move is how he acted. He pouted like a baby and threw a hissy fit instead of pumping his guys up for ot. That is why they got ran off the court in ot. Their leader gave up like a punk like usual.