National Championship Speculations

[therealUT]

• Tosu looks like the real deal. They are tough, quick, and very well coached. I have a feeling Minnesota will beat them.
• After a few 'too close for comfort' games, USC had a much needed bye week. They will beat Cal and lose to Notre Dame.
• Michigan dodged the Iowa bullet. I do not think they are good enough to beat Tosu. Of course, I did not think they were good enough to beat ND, either...
• WVU and Louisville finally face each other. The winner of this game finishes the season undefeated. However, that does not necessarily mean they will make it into the BCS title game.
• Texas will run the table and win the Big XII Championship Game.
• Auburn will win the SEC Championship Game.
• Texas will face Auburn in the BCS Championship Game, while the WVU/Louisville winner will lose their bowl game, proving to the nation that they did not deserve to play in the title game.

 

[tidwell]

Interesting about Minnesota... I saw their score today and they were trailing 9-3... to North Dakota State.

 

[General Jack]

OSU versus SEC Champ for NC.

 

[tidwell]

Aha, Minnesota defeated ND State 10-9.

 

[milohimself]

Tosu looks like the real deal. They are tough, quick, and very well coached. I have a feeling Minnesota will beat them.

You mean Wisconsin? Minnesota hasn't been very good, as far as I've seen...

After a few 'too close for comfort' games, USC had a much needed bye week. They will beat Cal and lose to Notre Dame.

Who knows about this one. UDub played USC and Cal very close. Should be a close game... I see USC winning, quite possibly in OT.

WVU and Louisville finally face each other. The winner of this game finishes the season undefeated. However, that does not necessarily mean they will make it into the BCS title game.

I think the winner of that game, if undefeated, will play for the national title game. Especially if Louisville wins it. Even though Miami sucks, the name recognition and the beatdown W on Louisville's schedule looks to impressive to voters. Only if another BCS team finishes undefeated.

Texas will run the table and win the Big XII Championship Game.

We'll see. I believe we're looking at a Texas-Nebraska rematch.

Auburn will win the SEC Championship Game.

If they play Florida again, I agree. I think we could take them.

Texas will face Auburn in the BCS Championship Game, while the WVU/Louisville winner will lose their bowl game, proving to the nation that they did not deserve to play in the title game.

We'll see... The BCS has to be preparing for a s***storm this season. Ark's throttling of Auburn doesn't help the Eagle-Tigers case at all.

 

[milohimself]

Interesting about Minnesota... I saw their score today and they were trailing 9-3... to North Dakota State.

That's one high-scoring hockey game.

 

[therealUT]

Interesting about Minnesota... I saw their score today and they were trailing 9-3... to North Dakota State.

I saw that too, and they only won 10-9. However, every team slips up at least for one game during a season, Tosu has not looked anything but invinceable all season. Usually, good teams stay focused on the road, and we all know that Tosu will be focused for Michigan, so Minnesota has to be their 'slip' game. I am just hoping that Tosu slips enough to lose that one.

 

[therealUT]

You mean Wisconsin? Minnesota hasn't been very good, as far as I've seen...

No, Tosu does not play Wisconsin.

Who knows about this one. UDub played USC and Cal very close. Should be a close game... I see USC winning, quite possibly in OT.

I think the winner of that game, if undefeated, will play for the national title game. Especially if Louisville wins it. Even though Miami sucks, the name recognition and the beatdown W on Louisville's schedule looks to impressive to voters. Only if another BCS team finishes undefeated.

The only winner of that game that will even have a shot at getting into the BCS title game is Louisville. WVU's computer rankings are extremely low! Even if they are #1 in both the Harris and Coaches poll, they will end up #2 at best in the BCS. However, they will probably finish at 3.

We'll see. I believe we're looking at a Texas-Nebraska rematch.

And, I would definitely put my money on Texas in that rematch.

If they play Florida again, I agree. I think we could take them.

Yeah, I do not see Florida losing again.

We'll see... The BCS has to be preparing for a s***storm this season. Ark's throttling of Auburn doesn't help the Eagle-Tigers case at all.

I think the BCS is well prepared for the storms...

 

[checkerboard_charly]

Way to much speculation here. How can you just say that Auburn will win against FL again? Or that ND will beat USC??


Texas has some holes too, they are beatable...

I can guarantee one thing. Even if we win out, the BCS will leave us out.

 

[tvolsfan]

• Tosu looks like the real deal. They are tough, quick, and very well coached. I have a feeling Minnesota will beat them.
• After a few 'too close for comfort' games, USC had a much needed bye week. They will beat Cal and lose to Notre Dame.
• Michigan dodged the Iowa bullet. I do not think they are good enough to beat Tosu. Of course, I did not think they were good enough to beat ND, either...
• WVU and Louisville finally face each other. The winner of this game finishes the season undefeated. However, that does not necessarily mean they will make it into the BCS title game.
• Texas will run the table and win the Big XII Championship Game.
• Auburn will win the SEC Championship Game.
• Texas will face Auburn in the BCS Championship Game, while the WVU/Louisville winner will lose their bowl game, proving to the nation that they did not deserve to play in the title game.

OSU doesn't stand a chance at going down until the game on november 18. they are just too good for the schedule right now.

Michigan is playing very well, they aren't doing anything wrong.

 

[milohimself]

Or that ND will beat USC??

ND just got took to the wire by a clownshoe UCLA squad. Not only that, but this game for ND is sandwiched by Stanford and Navy. I seriously doubt the Domers were playing down this game.

 

[kptvol]

These are some bold predictions that I would love to see come true, but I don't see it happening. Minnesota is not a good team this year. Even if they still had Lawrence Maroney, I don't think they could stand a chance against the Buckeyes.

I sincerely hope your predictions about Louisville/WVU are correct. I think they stand a good chance of getting thrashed if they make it to a BCS bowl.

It will suck if ND beats USC. USC won't fall below us. ND will then be "validated" as the greatest one-loss team in the history of college football.

 

[BigOrangeBob]

Since it's speculation, let me throw this "possibility" in. May have been posted already, I heard it on sportstalk a couple of days ago, when everyone was talking about possibilities.

If Tennessee and Auburn won out, they could play each other in the BCS title game, without even making it to the SEC title game.

I know that it would never happen, with all the help needed, but think what a mess the BCS would have. It would take the teams above them losing, and a couple of huge upsets, but Arkansas could beat UF in the SEC title game. And to really give you something to ponder on, if this happened, the SEC champ could not go to a BCS bowl, because the #1 and #2 would be playing each other, and no conference can send more than 2 schools to the BCS.

Personally, I would love it, just to see more chaos in the BCS. They already have the 5th game in place. Time for a 4 team playoff.

 

[kptvol]

Since it's speculation, let me throw this "possibility" in. May have been posted already, I heard it on sportstalk a couple of days ago, when everyone was talking about possibilities.

If Tennessee and Auburn won out, they could play each other in the BCS title game, without even making it to the SEC title game.

I know that it would never happen, with all the help needed, but think what a mess the BCS would have. It would take the teams above them losing, and a couple of huge upsets, but Arkansas could beat UF in the SEC title game. And to really give you something to ponder on, if this happened, the SEC champ could not go to a BCS bowl, because the #1 and #2 would be playing each other, and no conference can send more than 2 schools to the BCS.

Personally, I would love it, just to see more chaos in the BCS. They already have the 5th game in place. Time for a 4 team playoff.

How would a four team playoff work any better than the current situation? In the scenario you just described, which SEC teams would you put in there? There is just no feasible playoff solution.

 

[WA_Vol]

USC loses to CAl.
Michigan loses to OSU.
Louisville loses to WV.

OSU crushes WV for the NC.

The SEC goes 5-1 in bowl games and proves for the umpteen time its is the strongest conference.

 

[kptvol]

USC loses to CAl.
Michigan loses to OSU.
Louisville loses to WV.

OSU crushes WV for the NC.

The SEC goes 5-1 in bowl games and proves for the umpteen time its is the strongest conference.

If that happens, Ohio State will have completed one of the easiest roads to the national championship in history. Beating Michigan will be good, but I think the rest of their competition is very questionable. Iowa is not the real deal. Texas hasn't really done anything to show that they are a top ten team. Beyond those three teams, Ohio State has played a bunch of scrubs.

 

[WA_Vol]

If that happens, Ohio State will have completed one of the easiest roads to the national championship in history. Beating Michigan will be good, but I think the rest of their competition is very questionable. Iowa is not the real deal. Texas hasn't really done anything to show that they are a top ten team. Beyond those three teams, Ohio State has played a bunch of scrubs.

We still have the BYU NC joke back in 1984. BYU (12-0) defeated Michigan (6-5) in the Holiday Bowl for a NC. If that didnt bring a playoff system in nothing will.

 

[Volfan381]

Minnesota lost to Wisconsin 48-12. They will not beat Ohio State. In my opinion Michigan will not beat Ohio St. I really think OSU is going to the NC game, you can throw in the Heisman for Troy Smith while you're at it.

 

[kptvol]

Minnesota lost to Wisconsin 48-12. They will not beat Ohio State. In my opinion Michigan will not beat Ohio St. I really think OSU is going to the NC game, you can throw in the Heisman for Troy Smith while you're at it.

The Heisman would be more interesting if it wasn't an automatic award for the best player on the #1 team.

 

[tvolsfan]

If that happens, Ohio State will have completed one of the easiest roads to the national championship in history. Beating Michigan will be good, but I think the rest of their competition is very questionable. Iowa is not the real deal. Texas hasn't really done anything to show that they are a top ten team. Beyond those three teams, Ohio State has played a bunch of scrubs.

OSU has a terrible schedule, and are very lucky it came this year.

 

[BigOrangeBob]

How would a four team playoff work any better than the current situation? In the scenario you just described, which SEC teams would you put in there? There is just no feasible playoff solution.

With the +1 format, at least 4 teams would get a shot. I would love to have an 8 team playoff, but being realistic, I know it will not happen for a long time, if ever. For now, I think if enough of the right people lobby, the game is already in place for playing the top 2 teams AFTER the bowl games. Just put 1 vs 4, and 2 vs 3 in the regular bowls, and have the winners play the next week. In that scenario, you could still have 2 SEC, or any other conference, playing for the title. It is still stupid to think, that under this system, the SEC champ could be excluded from the BCS altogether.

Everyone knows what a farce the BCS is, just the right people are not voicing their opinions. It's all about the money, but just think the revenue that would be created with just a 4 team playoff. (astronomical to think of a 16 team "true" national championship playoff)

 

[kptvol]

With the +1 format, at least 4 teams would get a shot. I would love to have an 8 team playoff, but being realistic, I know it will not happen for a long time, if ever. For now, I think if enough of the right people lobby, the game is already in place for playing the top 2 teams AFTER the bowl games. Just put 1 vs 4, and 2 vs 3 in the regular bowls, and have the winners play the next week. In that scenario, you could still have 2 SEC, or any other conference, playing for the title. It is still stupid to think, that under this system, the SEC champ could be excluded from the BCS altogether.

Everyone knows what a farce the BCS is, just the right people are not voicing their opinions. It's all about the money, but just think the revenue that would be created with just a 4 team playoff. (astronomical to think of a 16 team "true" national championship playoff)

It's a nice thought you are having, but it is also misguided. The right people aren't speacking out against the BCS, because they understand that this is as good as it is going to get. If there was some way that a playoff system could realistically be implemented, it would have been done by now. It's just not possible.

Beyond all that, an 8 team playoff system would still be controversial. As of now, several deserving teams would be excluded. UT and Clemson come to mind off the top of my head. There are a host of other 1 loss teams that would be upset about missing their chance.

 

[Volunteer Rebel]

It's a nice thought you are having, but it is also misguided. The right people aren't speacking out against the BCS, because they understand that this is as good as it is going to get. If there was some way that a playoff system could realistically be implemented, it would have been done by now. It's just not possible.

Beyond all that, an 8 team playoff system would still be controversial. As of now, several deserving teams would be excluded. UT and Clemson come to mind off the top of my head. There are a host of other 1 loss teams that would be upset about missing their chance.

The funny thing is that Division 1-A is the only level of football from High School to Pros that has no playoffs. If it works for all of those different teams and leagues, it can work for D 1-A, and pay money.

I can easily imagine a true sixteen team playoff (that's 13 games) that incorporates the bowls, and the BCS. BCS conference champs get auto bid. A non-bcs conference undefeated gets an auto bid. The rest are determined by BCS ranking. Sure, you might have some controversy whether say, missori is better than rutgers for the last spot, but there will be no doubt as to the national champion. Not only . that but ratings will go through the roof. I could car less about the Holiday Bowl, but if it was a round one game featuring a potential Tennessee opponent, i would sure as heck tune in. There are all kinds of ways to do it, and I think it is only a matter of time. Once people figure out how to make it pay more than the current system, and maybe even favor some teams (i.e. notre dame) over others, it will happen. I expect to see it in my lifetime.

 

[kptvol]

it will happen. I expect to see it in my lifetime.

It doesn't matter how easily you can imagine it. There are guys who are employed to make college football better. They sit around all day thinking about this kind of stuff. They haven't come up with a workable playoff system yet. There are too many little things that would have to fall into place just perfectly. I hate to speculate about your life expectancy, but I seriously doubt that any of us will live to see a college football playoff. College football has been around for over 100 years without a playoff. It's not changing anytime soon.

 

[kidbourbon]

• Tosu looks like the real deal. They are tough, quick, and very well coached. I have a feeling Minnesota will beat them.
• After a few 'too close for comfort' games, USC had a much needed bye week. They will beat Cal and lose to Notre Dame.
• Michigan dodged the Iowa bullet. I do not think they are good enough to beat Tosu. Of course, I did not think they were good enough to beat ND, either...
• WVU and Louisville finally face each other. The winner of this game finishes the season undefeated. However, that does not necessarily mean they will make it into the BCS title game.
• Texas will run the table and win the Big XII Championship Game.
• Auburn will win the SEC Championship Game.
• Texas will face Auburn in the BCS Championship Game, while the WVU/Louisville winner will lose their bowl game, proving to the nation that they did not deserve to play in the title game.

Nothing personal, but much of what you wrote is nonsense. If the ND/USC game was a pick-em, I would bet my mortgage on USC. ND will not win that game.