Nascar intends to break the NCAA

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#276
Anybody that was a NASCAR fan from the mid 80’s - death of #3 period that gets the chance to watch the 30 for 30 about Tim Richmond should do so ! Its sad to see that much potential that was never realized but also very entertaining to see the way that racing used to be . He shook things up because he wasn’t there to be a part of the good ol boys club and definitely marched to the best of his own drum but the guy had charisma that most drivers today lack and oh yeah by the way could drive the hell out of a stock car .

 
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Hulavol said:
Here’s my one cent on this deal-
The NASCAR that I grew up watching and loved- I mean loved- is as different now as is whatever that techno rap **** on the radio is they call country music.
What’s the difference? Music row doesn’t care what I think - they produce whatever sells. Apparantly, if you sound like Waylon and Merle, you ain’t selling too well. But guess what? They are selling plenty of records despite having completely changed their product due to customer favor- They didn’t try to radically change their product to grow it faster - it naturally evolved.
NASCAR could have too. But instead, they have become a real life lesson in Econ 101 classes for exactly what not to do.

When I was younger, I’d go to work on Monday and you couldn’t get anything done because the race from the day before was all anybody wanted to talk about. And if there was a Monday race because of rain on Sunday, just forget it. Everyone is stopping to listen to MRN all day, and by the last fifty laps the place is closed down and someone is heading to the store to grab a cooler of beer.
Refrigerator in the shop breaks? It gets a big Ford sticker put on it. Microwave quits working ? Somebody gonna put a Ford sticker on it.
You get the idea - it was wildly popular. The old guys and the young punks like me. We loved it- we had a special bond over it. The Ford guys and the Chevy guys good ganged up on each other.
Man I miss those days.
Now I’m one of the old guys and we have a pile of young guys that are just like me thirty years ago.
Difference is nobody at work ever talks about NASCAR except to occasionally make a comment about how it sucks and will be dead soon. It’s not like they don’t watch it, they don’t, but it’s almost like they hate it. And I am with them.
Why? They ruined something I dearly loved and I resent it.
Eff NASCAR.

It wasn’t Dale dying either.
They tried to take something that is inherently a regional good ole boy event (it ain’t a sport) and expand their audience - to an audience that wasn’t asking to be expanded into.
Talk about killing the goose that laid the golden egg...
Just typing this has my blood pressure boiling.
I hope it burns to the ground.
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Great post. I worked in an auto glass shop one summer and Mondays was argue about the race day. Of course that was back when there were differences in the cars, and somebody was always "cheating". IMO the manufactures and NASCAR screwed up when they went to cookie cutter cars that don't look like what you see in the showroom.
 
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TNnative said:
Nope. Because I have enough friends who are NASCAR fans that if they were worth a damn? I would have heard their names several times. But they aren't talking about them. Before I got into it because of Dale? I knew who was who without watching. Knew just from lunch break convos who was good and who was a jerk ect ect. Back in the day where I live? Word of mouth kept non fans like me informed whether we wanted to be or not. You really did not think this question out before posting it, did you?
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Sounds like you were a real fan then?
 
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hog88 said:
Great post. I worked in an auto glass shop one summer and Mondays was argue about the race day. Of course that was back when there were differences in the cars, and somebody was always "cheating". IMO the manufactures and NASCAR screwed up when they went to cookie cutter cars that don't look like what you see in the showroom.
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Hey, you got any theories on why the JGR cars were having overheating problems yesterday and no one else was?
 
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hog88 said:
Great post. I worked in an auto glass shop one summer and Mondays was argue about the race day. Of course that was back when there were differences in the cars, and somebody was always "cheating". IMO the manufactures and NASCAR screwed up when they went to cookie cutter cars that don't look like what you see in the showroom.
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So it started sucking in the 80's? Yeah nobody cheats in Nascar anymore. That one actually has me laughing harder than the people on here talking about Nascar as if it were a dying sport.
 
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CR-vol said:
So it started sucking in the 80's? Yeah nobody cheats in Nascar anymore. That one actually has me laughing harder than the people on here talking about Nascar as if it were a dying sport.
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Until 1991 the cars did have unique templates and resembled the showroom models. It wasn't until the gen 4 cars (the twisted sister) in the early 90s that they completely went away from resembling the showroom models.
 
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#284
NASCAR died the Dale Earnhardt did. I'd much rather watch women's bowling than nascar.
 
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When I watch a race I only turn it on for the last 50 laps. That's where all the meaningful action happens and the winner. The 2 stages races prior are only for the drivers trying to get points. They mean nothing for the fans.
 
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CR-vol said:
So it started sucking in the 80's? Yeah nobody cheats in Nascar anymore. That one actually has me laughing harder than the people on here talking about Nascar as if it were a dying sport.
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I don’t know if it will actually DIE but it certainly is not what it used to be. I hear NOTHING about the sport from ANYONE in my workplace, neighborhood, etc. That tells me something about its popularity - and it’s not something “good”.
 
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Prolly about time to pull the plug on nascar. With viewership crumbling, the tv commercial value crumbles.... the sponsor money dries up... and they done.
 
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#294
College basketball doesn’t have to make a profit and when they come up short big brother football is there for the save. Who’s nascars big brother?
 
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#296
I haven't watched one minute of a race in many years. We used to be really into it, had a scanner, went to the races. My wife got into it. I like cars, and so I was very interested in the competition between manufacturers more than the drivers. I really did not like to see the rules focus on "parity" (although I certainly get it) and I lost interest well before the car of tomorrow. My wife liked Ernie Irvan and his retirement was enough for her to lose interest entirely. But whatever. I don't know why anybody else lost interest. I barely know why I did.
 
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#297
Formula 1 is where it’s at as far as racing goes. NASCAR has been dead for awhile. Neither will compete with meaningful college or professional sports in the USA for a while. But formula 1 is farrrrr better than nascar
 
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Jmavols2 said:
Formula 1 is where it’s at as far as racing goes. NASCAR has been dead for awhile. Neither will compete with meaningful college or professional sports in the USA for a while. But formula 1 is farrrrr better than nascar
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I guess you missed my post 6 posts up from yours. Last week's race had better ratings than the highest rated CBB and NBA games.

Let me guess....you haven't watched nascar in 15 years but yet you know for a fact the current product sucks?
 
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K-town Vol Fan said:
I guess you missed my post 6 posts up from yours. Last week's race had better ratings than the highest rated CBB and NBA games.

Let me guess....you haven't watched nascar in 15 years but yet you know for a fact the current product sucks?
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I don't think you get it. One race, all they have, had better ratings. More eyes, by a metric ton, watched CBB and NBA games.

And yes nascar isn't dead by any means.
 
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K-town Vol Fan said:
I guess you missed my post 6 posts up from yours. Last week's race had better ratings than the highest rated CBB and NBA games.

Let me guess....you haven't watched nascar in 15 years but yet you know for a fact the current product sucks?
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My point earlier that you quoted about viewership crumbling is exactly what the numbers say.... if falling off by TWO THIRDS and on a clear freefall trend line over an extended period of time isn’t “crumbling” then I don’t know what to tell you.....
But, I’m pretty sure Madison Ave is paying very close attention... and that tv money is gonna dry up faster than hot beer piss on the darlington infield in the summer.
And I have tried to watch it ... the product sucks compared to what it was - and since we have the “good old days” to compare it to, many of us are now indifferent about it.
 
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