Nagavols Suck!

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VolMax said:
Another coaching change would only put us that much further back. Is Dooley the next Saban? Maybe not, but even if we got a (delirious) fantasy coach like Grudin or Cowher, it would still take another year or two to compete.
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Compared to keeping Dooley and not being competitive at all for the rest of his tenure here?
 
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VolMax said:
All you "Fire Dooley" douches need to go jump on the Tide bandwagon. Remember where they were between Stallings and Satan.
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If they didn't can Shula the moment it was 100% clear he wasn't getting the job done, they wouldn't have Saban today and would still be wallowing in mediocrity like UT has been under Dooley.
 
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Vols4life said:
I supported phil until he got lazy with recruiting and everything the last straw was losing to wyoming :blink: I supported kiffin saw what he was doing with the program...now I support DD and can see where the program is heading which is back towards the top
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Exactly what concrete evidence do you base this statement on, pray tell?
 
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HoosierVFL said:
Its the damn team. He gets the blame when Bray forces ball after ball after ball after ball after ball to covered WRs. I thought Jay Cutler played on Thursday night? Hmm, I guess I was wrong. Is a sack a terrible thing? Would it kill him to move outside the pocket, improvise, buy some time n find an open WR? I guess so, bc he gives up on his options n throws an INT or into the 10th row.

Throw some blame on Coach Sal for playing Teague. The kid gets burned everytime our Vols play a decent team.

Throw some blame on our kicking game for killing some solid momentum AGAINNN!! I mean come on, our kickers have to be the only players in the country that miss XPTs every weekend. XPT realllly arent that hard.

This was a TEAM loss, not a Dooley loss.
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It was a team loss, but who is ultimately responsible for the team?
 
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VolMax said:
Originally Posted by VolMax
Another coaching change would only put us that much further back. Is Dooley the next Saban? Maybe not, but even if we got a (delirious) fantasy coach like Grudin or Cowher, it would still take another year or two to compete.



Neither nor Cowher will come. It is not an option.
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Dave Hart? Glad to see you on the board.
 
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SGMVols said:
If they didn't can Shula the moment it was 100% clear he wasn't getting the job done, they wouldn't have Saban today and would still be wallowing in mediocrity like UT has been under Dooley.
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I call BS, bro. We're not even at the mediocrity level.
 
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wouldnt call anyone a negavol after what Herbstiet said on Gameday -- Tennessee fans are hungry and have waited a long time to be ranked and for a win over UF -- both disappeared last night -- why wouldnt any UT fan be pissed off ?
 
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GLDunlap said:
Now that I've remembered where Alabama was between Stallings and Satan I'm thinking we should start looking for the fix just like Alabama did. Make sense?

btw, wtf does being competitive with Florida in the past have to do with showing the strength of our program? They have had two coaching hires over the last decade that rivaled our's with Dooley. We may be the only SEC team not to have beat Florida at least once over the last eight years. Many mediocre SEC programs have beaten the Gators multiple times the past few years. Their not the New England Patriots
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That we once were relevant nationally?

And Vandy and Ky haven't beaten them in the last 8 years. And that's about how low we fell in the last of the Fulmer years and the 1 and done Kiffin debacle.

They blew one of their hires and the jury is out on their latest one. Their abundant in state talent and tremendous recruiting run give them the edge on us and it is going to take a while to build the talent and depth to compete with them.
 
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When you say and Vandy and KY havent beat them in 8 years that arguement loses all credibility!!! We are not supposed to be Vandy or KY we are supposed to be Tennessee!!! But under CDD thats where we have fallen to!!! It doesnt matter if you lose by 1 point or 100 points its a loss I dont care how "competative" it was !!! We need new coaching and leaders!! Tennessee has as much talent as any other SEC school and that is no longer an excuse!!!
 
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VolMax said:
We are vastly improved over where we were when CPF Got canned.
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yeah cause having vandy as our only sec win last year is a vast improvement. not saying i want fulmer back but i would love to see what a chavis defense+ a bray offense would look like out on the field. i also bet if fulmer was here we would have a running game. jmo.
 
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VolMax said:
That we once were relevant nationally?

And Vandy and Ky haven't beaten them in the last 8 years. And that's about how low we fell in the last of the Fulmer years and the 1 and done Kiffin debacle.

They blew one of their hires and the jury is out on their latest one. Their abundant in state talent and tremendous recruiting run give them the edge on us and it is going to take a while to build the talent and depth to compete with them.
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Even suggesting that UT's program is remotely close to Vandy (they don't have an athletic department- the intramural dept runs the show) and KY (a basketball school that thinks football is something to do between basketball seasons) tells me all I need to know about you and your assessments.
 
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GLDunlap said:
Three weeks ago everyone seemed to agree that Dooley's failures can no longer be blamed on CPF or CLK. No more excuses was the mantra but now suddenly after this horrible performance most seem to be are back to blaming it on everyone except Dooley. It's easy to spot a poorly coached team and this team is poorly coached again. If it's not Dooley's fault then please tell me what a reasonable expectation for Dooley is at this point of his coaching tenure at UT.
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This year is the first one in which I think we can begin to judge his abilities. I think most of us agreed it would be a 3-4 year rebuilding job when he was hired. We ought to beat M-State and Missouri...assuming we can contain the edge against their spread...and finish regular season with 8 W's...if we lose one of those two, then 7...and we go bowling.

During that expected 3-4 year rebuilding job, we had these guys on the roster at some point:

Bryce Brown, JJ, Aaron Douglas, Darren Myles, Da'Rick, Cameron Clear... to name a few.

And we also lost Hunter in game 3 of last year to an ACL (and Brewer), had Bray break his thumb and were forced to use Simms (wouldn't have beat out crappy Crompton, much less resurrected Crompton - who was his OC? Oh yeah, Chaney) and had to start 2 true freshman LB's. Injuries happen to every team, but when you are trying to restock a bare cupboard, the effects are magnified.

All that said, I think this year is too early to make a call on CDD.
 
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JayVols said:
Even suggesting that UT's program is remotely close to Vandy (they don't have an athletic department- the intramural dept runs the show) and KY (a basketball school that thinks football is something to do between basketball seasons) tells me all I need to know about you and your assessments.
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I only meant we were close to Vandy and KY in terms of how low we were on talent...that's how low we had sunk.

Not talking about stature nor history at all.
 
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VolMax said:
Another coaching change would only put us that much further back. Is Dooley the next Saban? Maybe not, but even if we got a (delirious) fantasy coach like Grudin or Cowher, it would still take another year or two to compete.
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Where do you think Bama would be if Mal Moore went for the argument that they just couldn't risk the instability that might come with firing Shula? Every hire is a risk, I'll give you that. But from what I've seen thus far, we've got absolutely nothing to lose. I honestly don't think it could get any worse but it could get a whole lot better.
 
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VolunteerHillbilly said:
Where do you think Bama would be if Mal Moore went for the argument that they just couldn't risk the instability that might come with firing Shula? Every hire is a risk, I'll give you that. But from what I've seen thus far, we've got absolutely nothing to lose. I honestly don't think it could get any worse but it could get a whole lot better.
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+1000 We've had the worst back to back years in our football programs history. There's no way it can get worse.
 
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Cutting your losses is actually a very effective business strategy. Once you have evidence that something isn't working, attempt to fix it and still get the same unacceptable results, you cut your losses and try something different.

This is the year; fix it or fire it.
 
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