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Barnes is in trouble with this team. he has absolutely no leader out there. nobody that can take control. they can't guard the 3 for anything. this is the kind of team that when you see them fall behind in the second half you know they won't win the game. they have nobody that can take the game into their hands and rally the team. for the love of God Okpara should be an absolute weapon inside and hes almost useless out there. Ament should be WAY better given his recruiting ranking. how Kentucky got all those NBA players all those years and we finally get one and he looks lost.

this team won't win anything until a guy decides to be the leader of the team.
 
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UTFranklinVol said:
Barnes is in trouble with this team. he has absolutely no leader out there. nobody that can take control. they can't guard the 3 for anything. this is the kind of team that when you see them fall behind in the second half you know they won't win the game. they have nobody that can take the game into their hands and rally the team. for the love of God Okpara should be an absolute weapon inside and hes almost useless out there. Ament should be WAY better given his recruiting ranking. how Kentucky got all those NBA players all those years and we finally get one and he looks lost.

this team won't win anything until a guy decides to be the leader of the team.
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Can’t argue with anything you said.

Edit - but, it’s very early in the season.
 
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JP and Bishop need to assume the leadership role.

Gillespie lost me a bit with his weak effort at the rim. He took it to the basket with just one hand and it got swatted away. A leader isn’t going to put style points ahead of the team. Up by 20 points, then fine. But UT needed to score at every opportunity.
 
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Thunder Good-Oil said:
JP and Bishop need to assume the leadership role.

Gillespie lost me a bit with his weak effort at the rim. He took it to the basket with just one hand and it got swatted away. A leader isn’t going to put style points ahead of the team. Up by 20 points, then fine. But UT needed to score at every opportunity.
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This is silly. He was going to the basket hard and expected a bump he didn’t get. He got more focused on the 7’3 defender coming, who ended up not really making a play on Gillespie.
It happens quite often when players seek contact and get off balance instead of finishing.
Saying he puts style points above the team is, well I don’t know how to describe it without being rude. Not a good take. More of an emotional, uninformed one.
 
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Teams are always going to get good looks at 3. That’s just the way we play defense. Agree on the other points. Okpara needs to have some inside game other than being the alley oop guy. Boswell could be the leader but will other people buy in.
 
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UTFranklinVol said:
Barnes is in trouble with this team. he has absolutely no leader out there. nobody that can take control. they can't guard the 3 for anything. this is the kind of team that when you see them fall behind in the second half you know they won't win the game. they have nobody that can take the game into their hands and rally the team. for the love of God Okpara should be an absolute weapon inside and hes almost useless out there. Ament should be WAY better given his recruiting ranking. how Kentucky got all those NBA players all those years and we finally get one and he looks lost.

this team won't win anything until a guy decides to be the leader of the team.
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This has been my biggest disappointment with JG...he doesn't seem to be an alpha like ZZ or Mashack (I know...not fair to compare).

Edit: In fact, his personality seems to be very low key and even-keeled which is not ideal when looking for a vocal leader.
 
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GBO18 said:
Teams are always going to get good looks at 3. That’s just the way we play defense. Agree on the other points. Okpara needs to have some inside game other than being the alley oop guy. Boswell could be the leader but will other people buy in.
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Pretty sure we had a top 5 3 point defense last year. Just a bad perimeter defensive team right now.
 
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Thunder Good-Oil said:
JP and Bishop need to assume the leadership role.

Gillespie lost me a bit with his weak effort at the rim. He took it to the basket with just one hand and it got swatted away. A leader isn’t going to put style points ahead of the team. Up by 20 points, then fine. But UT needed to score at every opportunity.
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It didn’t get swatted. He just dropped it. Not that that’s better…
 
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UTFranklinVol said:
Barnes is in trouble with this team. he has absolutely no leader out there. nobody that can take control. they can't guard the 3 for anything. this is the kind of team that when you see them fall behind in the second half you know they won't win the game. they have nobody that can take the game into their hands and rally the team. for the love of God Okpara should be an absolute weapon inside and hes almost useless out there. Ament should be WAY better given his recruiting ranking. how Kentucky got all those NBA players all those years and we finally get one and he looks lost.

this team won't win anything until a guy decides to be the leader of the team.
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UTFranklinVol said:
Barnes is in trouble with this team. he has absolutely no leader out there. nobody that can take control. they can't guard the 3 for anything. this is the kind of team that when you see them fall behind in the second half you know they won't win the game. they have nobody that can take the game into their hands and rally the team. for the love of God Okpara should be an absolute weapon inside and hes almost useless out there. Ament should be WAY better given his recruiting ranking. how Kentucky got all those NBA players all those years and we finally get one and he looks lost.

this team won't win anything until a guy decides to be the leader of the team.
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None of these guys have ever had to be "the man". They look like a bunch of playground guys hogging the ball. Very little TEAM yet. I think it will come, just hope it's not too late. They are like the mule you drive to water, but you can't make him drink. That is to say no amount of coaching or teaching can help til this bunch wants to be helped.
 
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Bright spots/ inside presence
Not so bright spots/ everything else
Get Okpara the ball constantly until it is taken away, Phillips is holding his own, more pt for Estrella, feed carey, he will find the beast mode),
We are big so let’s take advantage of it.
I’m not a coach and do not pretend to be. This is only my observation. Thoughts?
 
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cardvolfan said:
Work to be done, but the sky is not falling.
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True, but that's news to the group that has spent the last three months at the football forum ripping Heupel and have now moved over here to focus their "constructive criticism" on Barnes for the next four months. Logic, reason, and not resorting to knee-jerk reactions doesn't fit their narrative.

But, see, it's just that we accept mediocrity and don't possess their expectations of excellence.
 
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sami said:
True, but that's news to the group that has spent the last three months at the football forum ripping Heupel and have now moved over here to focus their "constructive criticism" on Barnes for the next four months. Logic, reason, and not resorting to knee-jerk reactions doesn't fit their narrative.

But, see, it's just that we accept mediocrity and don't possess their expectations of excellence.
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They have all the answers! Haha
 
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"Barnes is in trouble with this team" has to be of the more laughable overreactions I have read so far. I remember reading some of the same things s couple of years ago when we lost two in a row in a holiday tournament
 
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Skooter said:
This is silly. He was going to the basket hard and expected a bump he didn’t get. He got more focused on the 7’3 defender coming, who ended up not really making a play on Gillespie.
It happens quite often when players seek contact and get off balance instead of finishing.
Saying he puts style points above the team is, well I don’t know how to describe it without being rude. Not a good take. More of an emotional, uninformed one.
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This, exactly.
 
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Skooter said:
This is silly. He was going to the basket hard and expected a bump he didn’t get. He got more focused on the 7’3 defender coming, who ended up not really making a play on Gillespie.
It happens quite often when players seek contact and get off balance instead of finishing.
Saying he puts style points above the team is, well I don’t know how to describe it without being rude. Not a good take. More of an emotional, uninformed one.
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If you expect to get bumped, you don’t take the ball hard to the rim with just one hand a couple of steps away from the basket and the defender.
 
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Skooter said:
Couldn’t tell you. Been awhile since I attacked the rim with 7’3 closing in.
You said he was putting style points above team, which is a bad take period.
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Scoring a basket in a close game instead of waving the ball around with one hand is exactly style points. It’s certainly not fundamentally sound basketball.
 
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