My take on Alabama and recruiting...

#26
#26
Did nebraska get caught doing anything wrong back when they had their Dynasty? What about Florida when they won 2 titles a few years ago.

Every major program probably cheats in some form. You think Clowney went to USCe for free? Its really comes down to getting caught.

If Bama cheats , they probably did it more in Saban's first couple of years but with the way the NCAA watches bama after they just came off probation i doubt they are doing it as much as people think.

Didn't Nebraska have a steroid scandal of some sort? I don't have the numbers in front of me, but Florida, while having ridiculous recruiting success under Meyer...I'm not so sure it was on the same level ast Miami, USC, or Bama now. Some of those classes USC pulled in were almost unfair.

Everyone cheats is kind of a lame duck excuse here. Teams that have looked unstoppable over multiple years eventually get caught doing something.
 
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#27
#27
Saban is about Saban winning and nothing more. He cares about his players only if the outcome is about Saban. Case in point, he stepped over a player convulsing when he was with the Dolphins and continued with business. Sentimore said he was a complete prick that wouldn't even say "Hello" in passing.

Sour grapes from Sentimore, imo. Funny how most of his players love him and this statement isnt from the media this is from a family member that is employed at the school.

I know you are trying your best to make Saban look like a bad guy but he doesnt need help, most people think that anyways. Funny thing is the fact that most fans that diss him would have accepted him as their coach in a heartbeat after he left the Dolphins. Winning cures alot of things.
 
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I think a lot of people forget that Alabama went through 4 HC's before Saban came along. The important thing is that we have the resources and support so it's just a matter of time, hard work, and a little dumb luck. I think we were in a considerably worse position than Bama when Saban took over if you think about it.
 
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Didn't Nebraska have a steroid scandal of some sort? I don't have the numbers in front of me, but Florida, while having ridiculous recruiting success under Meyer...I'm not so sure it was on the same level ast Miami, USC, or Bama now. Some of those classes USC pulled in were almost unfair.

Everyone cheats is kind of a lame duck excuse here. Teams that have looked unstoppable over multiple years eventually get caught doing something.

I didnt say it was an excuse to cheat too. I just stated something that is probably a fact. Their is no excuse for cheating.

Nebraska hasnt been caught doing anything, neither has FSU during the 90's run. I think most people felt Nebraska players was on steroids especially after the beatdown of UF.

Also if your program cheats and you cant admit it, you shouldnt say anything about someone else's program cheating because thats just being a hypocrite.

Jealousy and hate will make people say alot of things, just so they can feel better. Winners will continue to laugh in their face and enjoy the moment.
 
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#30
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I didnt say it was an excuse to cheat too. I just stated something that is probably a fact. Their is no excuse for cheating.

Nebraska hasnt been caught doing anything, neither has FSU during the 90's run. I think most people felt Nebraska players was on steroids especially after the beatdown of UF.

Also if your program cheats and you cant admit it, you shouldnt say anything about someone else's program cheating because thats just being a hypocrite.

All I'm saying is with how much parity there currently is in CFB, and the fact that Bama week in and week out looks like they are in a completely diferent universe with talent level, something isn't right. Maybe they are cheating and will never get caught, maybe they will get caught, maybe they aren't cheating at all. The disparity with them and everyone else is almost comical at this point.
 
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#31
My personal feeling on Bama is that they have entered the Kentucky Basketball stage of success. They recruit the best kids, who leave early and leave more spots open for more of the best kids. Tennessee has to develop kids and so gambles a four year scholy to someone like Teague, who has potential but might be a bust as well. Bama doesn't take risks because they don't have to.


As long as Saban keeps sending guys to the NFL and winning championships, he is going to have the discretion to completely avoid dead weight in his program. I honestly think unless Saban drops the ball or leaves, a huge scandal erupts, or the NCAA doesn't change the recruiting rules to put in place more parity, Bama is going to keep running over everyone.
 
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All I'm saying is with how much parity there currently is in CFB, and the fact that Bama week in and week out looks like they are in a completely diferent universe with talent level, something isn't right. Maybe they are cheating and will never get caught, maybe they will get caught, maybe they aren't cheating at all. The disparity with them and everyone else is almost comical at this point.

The disparity is with the schools that havent recruited well and has bad coaching. Good teams like A&M, UGA and LSU, etc can compete with them. The thing with bama is that they dont have letdowns against bad teams like others did this year. Top talent and a great coaching staff makes a big difference also. Other factors is that there is better talent in the south than any other region overall.
 
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I'm honestly surprised an Auburn fan hasn't gone into deep cover as a Bama booster, paid a bunch of kids to go to Alabama, and then got caught on purpose. You can't tell me there isn't an Auburn fan with money that wouldn't be willing to go to UA for 4 years to become an alum and in year five start slipping 5 stars $100 bills.
 
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Here is a link to an article pertaining to an alleged Nebraska steroid scandal (Huskers on steroid case witness list - Kearney Hub: Local Sports). Given the fact, however, that it references events in 2003 and 2004, I doubt seriously that it has any direct bearing on the powerhouse Nebraska teams of the mid 1990s. Personally, I see a couple of parallels between Nebraska teams of that era and the current Alabama run. Nebraska, then, was one of the last few true power running attacks in the country and presented a challenge that few teams outside of their conference regularly faced. Indeed, they had a 10- or 11-game winning streak against the SEC in bowls that spanned the years from 1969-1999 (see Nebraska Historical Scores). They also led the way in terms of introducing structured weight training programs to college football. It was commonplace for them to have offensive lines composed of fifth-year seniors, who were absolute road-graders. Alabama has an equally physical style of play, one that SEC teams regularly contend with, albeit, for the most part, with lesser talent. Therefore, it is, for SEC opponents, less of a shock than Notre Dame experienced.

As for runs by Florida and Miami, they most definitely have been guilty of serious NCAA infractions (e.g. Charlie Pell scandal in the mid -80s). I have always contended, however, that a baboon could be reasonably successful at those programs, as well as USC, given their location in fertile recruiting grounds. In those cases, the simple recruiting strategy should be to walk over to the nearest palm tree, shake vigorously and watch Division-1 prospects fall from the sky. If I remember correctly, even Bear Bryant once said that, if Florida ever got the right coach, everybody else would be playing for second place in the SEC.
 
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