my take (for what it's worth)

[99gator]

1. This first part may rub salt in the wound, but it explains why coach jones gave Peterman a shot. Word about florida was if you wanted to see the season go down the toilet in a hurry, a jeff driskel injury would do it. While I am still going to guess that gator fans will find out why that was believed to be true, what murphy did yesterday shocked the coaching staff and any media member who covers the gators. Sometimes you just don’t know until you put a guy in the game. Peterman was given a shot and it was a disaster. But, I do understand giving him a shot.
2. However, there came a point where it was obvious it was not a good idea. That point came a heck of a lot sooner than when he was pulled. And they also asked a guy who was struggling to do things in down and distance situations that he had no business doing. That is on the coaches.
3. After the endless parade of ineptitude subsided, Florida discovered that if you go wide on the Tennessee defense, it will yield results. For how limited florida was offensively due to injuries on the line and elsewhere, the one or two things they were capable of were able to succeed.
4. The offensive line that is supposed to be a strength isn’t for a couple of reasons. (a) They have never been a very good run blocking line. The success running the football, mostly last season, came from defenses having a fear of the passing game, not the line’s ability to run block. (b) the line is not best suited or used to playing in this particular system.
5. Because of #4, they are not going to be successful offensively this season. It just isn’t going to happen. The team was supposed to be carried by the line, not the qb, rb, and wr.
6. I will not get into specifics and will only say this generally. A lot of the problems that existed pre-butch are still there. The way to fix these problems is on the recruiting trail. I believe jones will get it done there and I stand by my statement before the season that 2014 will be a better season than 2013.

 

[CountVolcula]

About 2¢

 

[AllVol11717]

It's a sad day when a Florida fan understands more about our program than half the posters on VN.

Good post 99 and I think you're pretty spot on with most of your info.

 

[zreeves]

1. Sometimes you just don’t know until you put a guy in the game. Peterman was given a shot and it was a disaster. But, I do understand giving him a shot.

i am not sure how you could not know this. VN seems to have the best hindsight coaches in the world and apparently they all knew this was a bad idea

 

[Spartacavolus]

point #1 is excellent. fla backup qb has looked like crap in practice, yet comes out with the cameras on and just makes plays and plays football. Meanwhile, we have a qb in Peterman that practices like a champ and plays aggressive with few mistakes, then gets scared to death with the cameras on and reverts to jr high mistakes.
Neither coach got what they expected on the field with their backup qb's having to play.

 

[bigorange247]

1. This first part may rub salt in the wound, but it explains why coach jones gave Peterman a shot. Word about florida was if you wanted to see the season go down the toilet in a hurry, a jeff driskel injury would do it. While I am still going to guess that gator fans will find out why that was believed to be true, what murphy did yesterday shocked the coaching staff and any media member who covers the gators. Sometimes you just don’t know until you put a guy in the game. Peterman was given a shot and it was a disaster. But, I do understand giving him a shot.
2. However, there came a point where it was obvious it was not a good idea. That point came a heck of a lot sooner than when he was pulled. And they also asked a guy who was struggling to do things in down and distance situations that he had no business doing. That is on the coaches.
3. After the endless parade of ineptitude subsided, Florida discovered that if you go wide on the Tennessee defense, it will yield results. For how limited florida was offensively due to injuries on the line and elsewhere, the one or two things they were capable of were able to succeed.
4. The offensive line that is supposed to be a strength isn’t for a couple of reasons. (a) They have never been a very good run blocking line. The success running the football, mostly last season, came from defenses having a fear of the passing game, not the line’s ability to run block. (b) the line is not best suited or used to playing in this particular system.
5. Because of #4, they are not going to be successful offensively this season. It just isn’t going to happen. The team was supposed to be carried by the line, not the qb, rb, and wr.
6. I will not get into specifics and will only say this generally. A lot of the problems that existed pre-butch are still there. The way to fix these problems is on the recruiting trail. I believe jones will get it done there and I stand by my statement before the season that 2014 will be a better season than 2013.

Most people thought we would be 2-2 at this point in the season and we are. No big surprise.

 

[oldsmokey67]

1. This first part may rub salt in the wound, but it explains why coach jones gave Peterman a shot. Word about florida was if you wanted to see the season go down the toilet in a hurry, a jeff driskel injury would do it. While I am still going to guess that gator fans will find out why that was believed to be true, what murphy did yesterday shocked the coaching staff and any media member who covers the gators. Sometimes you just don’t know until you put a guy in the game. Peterman was given a shot and it was a disaster. But, I do understand giving him a shot.
2. However, there came a point where it was obvious it was not a good idea. That point came a heck of a lot sooner than when he was pulled. And they also asked a guy who was struggling to do things in down and distance situations that he had no business doing. That is on the coaches.
3. After the endless parade of ineptitude subsided, Florida discovered that if you go wide on the Tennessee defense, it will yield results. For how limited florida was offensively due to injuries on the line and elsewhere, the one or two things they were capable of were able to succeed.
4. The offensive line that is supposed to be a strength isn’t for a couple of reasons. (a) They have never been a very good run blocking line. The success running the football, mostly last season, came from defenses having a fear of the passing game, not the line’s ability to run block. (b) the line is not best suited or used to playing in this particular system.
5. Because of #4, they are not going to be successful offensively this season. It just isn’t going to happen. The team was supposed to be carried by the line, not the qb, rb, and wr.
6. I will not get into specifics and will only say this generally. A lot of the problems that existed pre-butch are still there. The way to fix these problems is on the recruiting trail. I believe jones will get it done there and I stand by my statement before the season that 2014 will be a better season than 2013.

you are right about the o-line.they are big and should be pushing other teams around.and they play soft.

 

[oldsmokey67]

1. This first part may rub salt in the wound, but it explains why coach jones gave Peterman a shot. Word about florida was if you wanted to see the season go down the toilet in a hurry, a jeff driskel injury would do it. While I am still going to guess that gator fans will find out why that was believed to be true, what murphy did yesterday shocked the coaching staff and any media member who covers the gators. Sometimes you just don’t know until you put a guy in the game. Peterman was given a shot and it was a disaster. But, I do understand giving him a shot.
2. However, there came a point where it was obvious it was not a good idea. That point came a heck of a lot sooner than when he was pulled. And they also asked a guy who was struggling to do things in down and distance situations that he had no business doing. That is on the coaches.
3. After the endless parade of ineptitude subsided, Florida discovered that if you go wide on the Tennessee defense, it will yield results. For how limited florida was offensively due to injuries on the line and elsewhere, the one or two things they were capable of were able to succeed.
4. The offensive line that is supposed to be a strength isn’t for a couple of reasons. (a) They have never been a very good run blocking line. The success running the football, mostly last season, came from defenses having a fear of the passing game, not the line’s ability to run block. (b) the line is not best suited or used to playing in this particular system.
5. Because of #4, they are not going to be successful offensively this season. It just isn’t going to happen. The team was supposed to be carried by the line, not the qb, rb, and wr.
6. I will not get into specifics and will only say this generally. A lot of the problems that existed pre-butch are still there. The way to fix these problems is on the recruiting trail. I believe jones will get it done there and I stand by my statement before the season that 2014 will be a better season than 2013.

truth hurts.good post.

 

[champyvol]

1. This first part may rub salt in the wound, but it explains why coach jones gave Peterman a shot. Word about florida was if you wanted to see the season go down the toilet in a hurry, a jeff driskel injury would do it. While I am still going to guess that gator fans will find out why that was believed to be true, what murphy did yesterday shocked the coaching staff and any media member who covers the gators. Sometimes you just don’t know until you put a guy in the game. Peterman was given a shot and it was a disaster. But, I do understand giving him a shot.
2. However, there came a point where it was obvious it was not a good idea. That point came a heck of a lot sooner than when he was pulled. And they also asked a guy who was struggling to do things in down and distance situations that he had no business doing. That is on the coaches.
3. After the endless parade of ineptitude subsided, Florida discovered that if you go wide on the Tennessee defense, it will yield results. For how limited florida was offensively due to injuries on the line and elsewhere, the one or two things they were capable of were able to succeed.
4. The offensive line that is supposed to be a strength isn’t for a couple of reasons. (a) They have never been a very good run blocking line. The success running the football, mostly last season, came from defenses having a fear of the passing game, not the line’s ability to run block. (b) the line is not best suited or used to playing in this particular system.
5. Because of #4, they are not going to be successful offensively this season. It just isn’t going to happen. The team was supposed to be carried by the line, not the qb, rb, and wr.
6. I will not get into specifics and will only say this generally. A lot of the problems that existed pre-butch are still there. The way to fix these problems is on the recruiting trail. I believe jones will get it done there and I stand by my statement before the season that 2014 will be a better season than 2013.

sad when a gator fan makes more sense than the vols. only thing i will disagree with is that it will be at least 4 to 5 years before we will be able to contend with good sec teams. that is if we don't get hammered by the ncaa

 

[Sandvol]

You guys are in serious trouble also. You guys could easily go 6-6. I see you losing to LSU, Georgia, South Carolina which puts you at 4 losses. Then you could possibly lose to Missouri, Arkansas or Vanderbilt and at Kentucky is no guarantee either. If we had a quarterback we would have won the game. Murphy, as average as he is, is better than any quarterback we have-unless one of the unseen freshmen emerges.

 

[EconVol92]

I thought that we would be 2-2 right now, but I also thought that Florida would be a much better team.

That game was painful to watch, I don't care who you were pulling for.

 

[92volalum]

Number 2 is what bothers me because they r showing signs of square peg round hole mentality n that will get u beat more than u win.

He must adapt his system to the players n be flexible when something isn't working or he will end up like rich rod at Mich n tn will pay the price again.

 

[SmokeyX]

I have to say 99, you have some of the best posts on this board. Even though it pains me to admit it.

That being said, you're still a dirty gator fan

 

[DiderotsGhost]

1. This first part may rub salt in the wound, but it explains why coach jones gave Peterman a shot. Word about florida was if you wanted to see the season go down the toilet in a hurry, a jeff driskel injury would do it. While I am still going to guess that gator fans will find out why that was believed to be true, what murphy did yesterday shocked the coaching staff and any media member who covers the gators. Sometimes you just don’t know until you put a guy in the game. Peterman was given a shot and it was a disaster. But, I do understand giving him a shot.

Murphy played great, but I'd hold out on big judgements for now. Murphy beat our D on the ground, more so than in the air. In doing this, he was really exploiting our defensive weakness: lack of speed. I don't think a team like South Carolina is going to struggle with Murphy nearly as much.

Which isn't to say he can't succeed; just that I think his particular style created more match-up problems for Tennessee's D than it will for other SEC teams.

 

[peyton4heisman]

1. This first part may rub salt in the wound, but it explains why coach jones gave Peterman a shot. Word about florida was if you wanted to see the season go down the toilet in a hurry, a jeff driskel injury would do it. While I am still going to guess that gator fans will find out why that was believed to be true, what murphy did yesterday shocked the coaching staff and any media member who covers the gators. Sometimes you just don’t know until you put a guy in the game. Peterman was given a shot and it was a disaster. But, I do understand giving him a shot.
2. However, there came a point where it was obvious it was not a good idea. That point came a heck of a lot sooner than when he was pulled. And they also asked a guy who was struggling to do things in down and distance situations that he had no business doing. That is on the coaches.
3. After the endless parade of ineptitude subsided, Florida discovered that if you go wide on the Tennessee defense, it will yield results. For how limited florida was offensively due to injuries on the line and elsewhere, the one or two things they were capable of were able to succeed.
4. The offensive line that is supposed to be a strength isn’t for a couple of reasons. (a) They have never been a very good run blocking line. The success running the football, mostly last season, came from defenses having a fear of the passing game, not the line’s ability to run block. (b) the line is not best suited or used to playing in this particular system.
5. Because of #4, they are not going to be successful offensively this season. It just isn’t going to happen. The team was supposed to be carried by the line, not the qb, rb, and wr.
6. I will not get into specifics and will only say this generally. A lot of the problems that existed pre-butch are still there. The way to fix these problems is on the recruiting trail. I believe jones will get it done there and I stand by my statement before the season that 2014 will be a better season than 2013.

Good points, reptile.

 

[ShowSomePride]

Did we have any positive that you saw 99?

 

[AyreFoarceVol]

1. ...it explains why coach jones gave Peterman a shot. Word about florida was if you wanted to see the season go down the toilet in a hurry, a jeff driskel injury would do it.

I'm missing how giving Peterman a shot relates to Driskel's injury. I could be a smart-ass and say Peterman injured Driskel?? But I think what you're trying to say is taking Driskel out of the offensive equation theoretically created a balance of the equation vs. Tenn's that legitimized Peterman's start? Whatever.

While I am still going to guess that gator fans will find out why that was believed to be true, what murphy did yesterday shocked the coaching staff and any media member who covers the gators.

Again, pls don't take this the wrong way or personally, but it truly pisses me off to hear gator fans say "they were shocked." I mean, stop it already. I heard how Gator fans say they were shocked by Chris Leak, or they were shocked by Tim Tebow, it just sounds so polly-anna-ish and phony. It just makes me smgdh. You Gators, like Bama, are the large puppies in the SEC litter and you ALWAYS manage to find the largest, milkiest, mama-teat there is, while we Vol runts scrap for every ****ed man-teat we get!

After the endless parade of ineptitude subsided, Florida discovered that if you go wide on the Tennessee defense, it will yield results. For how limited florida was offensively due to injuries on the line and elsewhere, the one or two things they were capable of were able to succeed.

"One or two." Your modesty is glaringly showing and makes me laugh. Again, don't take it personally.

4. The offensive line that is supposed to be a strength isn’t for a couple of reasons. (a) They have never been a very good run blocking line. The success running the football, mostly last season, came from defenses having a fear of the passing game, not the line’s ability to run block. (b) the line is not best suited or used to playing in this particular system.

Agree.

5. Because of #4, they are not going to be successful offensively this season. It just isn’t going to happen. The team was supposed to be carried by the line, not the qb, rb, and wr.

I'm not sure you're right. There is something called making adjustments and it's not too late to do that. We are 4 games into a 12 game season.

A lot of the problems that existed pre-butch are still there. The way to fix these problems is on the recruiting trail. I believe jones will get it done there and I stand by my statement before the season that 2014 will be a better season than 2013.

You are definitely correct. There's no way around that fact.

 

[hillccs]

It's a sad day when a Florida fan understands more about our program than half the posters on VN.

Good post 99 and I think you're pretty spot on with most of your info.

What is with the thought on this board that an opposing fan has a great idea what is going on. Some points are valid others I do not think are as valid...nothing ground breaking to read here.

 

[NEVolFan]

OK...agree good post gatortail.

Because of #4, they are not going to be successful offensively this season. It just isn’t going to happen. The team was supposed to be carried by the line, not the qb, rb, and wr

Now....who the hell is #4 and let's get him benched.

 

[NashVOL93]

Decent post, 99. Were it not for the Late Great Nate experiment, I think that game is a hell of a lot closer than the score indicates, and that's not really a good thing for UF. I see 9-3 this season for Florida, and maybe 8-4. That's just my opinion.

 

[ShowSomePride]

Again, pls don't take this the wrong way or personally, but it truly pisses me off to hear gator fans say "they were shocked." I mean, stop it already. I heard how Gator fans say they were shocked by Chris Leak, or they were shocked by Tim Tebow, it just sounds so polly-anna-ish and phony. It just makes me smgdh. You Gators, like Bama, are the large puppies in the SEC litter and you ALWAYS manage to find the largest, milkiest, mama-teat there is, while we Vol runts scrap for every ****ed man-teat we get!

In his defense, Murphy was a 2* out of high school. I don't know how he ended up at Florida.

 

[Grand Vol]

1. This first part may rub salt in the wound, but it explains why coach jones gave Peterman a shot. Word about florida was if you wanted to see the season go down the toilet in a hurry, a jeff driskel injury would do it. While I am still going to guess that gator fans will find out why that was believed to be true, what murphy did yesterday shocked the coaching staff and any media member who covers the gators. Sometimes you just don’t know until you put a guy in the game. Peterman was given a shot and it was a disaster. But, I do understand giving him a shot.

The problem is he hasn't faced a good pass rusher yet. We just simply do not have someone that gets into the backfield and forces him into bad situations or forces a throw. But overall, the kid's got some wheels and will fit in well with your offense.

Good post overall, objective and thoughtful.

 

[NashVOL93]

In his defense, Murphy was a 2* out of high school. I don't know how he ended up at Florida.

Hot damn. Our defense made him look like Tebow 2.0 yesterday. Was solid if not spectacular through the air and kept plays alive with his legs on the ground.

A significant improvement from Driskel, in my opinion.

 

[crazyguy]

Great post 99. I agree that there are still problems, and I think at least a few are at least raising an eyebrow at what appears to be an extremely stubborn coaching staff. I'm concerned.

 

[Dickel#12Vol]

I can see improvements in a lot of areas with our team.. the offensive line evidently got too many accolades before the season started...