My 2010 top defenses in sec. Vols 5th

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superdawg51 said:
Georgia......12th? That predition alone discredits you as too having any clue what so ever as a prognosticator.

i can't help asking.....why 12th? please elaborate.
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Well, you guys were 10th in scoring defense last season and are putting in a new defensive alignment with an inexperienced DL.

But yeah, 12th is a bit extreme.
 
#28
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gunner said:
Being OK and Dominant are two completely different things. I will agree Bama will be OK on D in 2010 they won't be a Dominate D like last season. Bama rode that D last season to a NC while most of the time the O struggled (see UT vs. Bama 09 for details).

Football is a Team Sport, it takes all 11 players to make a great D. D Linemen no matter how good can't cover WR's, and Bama has issues in their secondary.

I am not saying Bama will be terrible, I am just saying they can expect a drop off from last season on D. The secondary has issues, and a big test will come when Bama goes to Arkansas with Mallet throwing it all over the field. I like Arkansas' chances in that game.

It is too bad that the Vols won't have much of a passing game this season because teams that do will case Bama some problems until the secondary gets up to speed.

Just my 2 cents.
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Mallett will be on his back the majority of the game.

Bama's D will have some growing pains but they'll be pretty damn good by the end of the year.

Bama's O is going to control the clock and keep the D from being in a lot of tough situations as well.
 
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oUTKickedCoverage said:
Well, you guys were 10th in scoring defense last season and are putting in a new defensive alignment with an inexperienced DL.

But yeah, 12th is a bit extreme.
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agree we have room for improvement. we did give up more passing tds than anyone but our inability to create TO's and our ability to create untimely penalties contributed to scoring defense ranking. want to believe the main problem was Martinez' schemes and philosophy more than our overall talent.

true we did lose 3 senior DT's but our returning dline isn't completely inexperienced. certainly don't see uga being any worse than last year on D....even slight improvement should translate into another victory or two.
 
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superdawg51 said:
agree we have room for improvement. we did give up more passing tds than anyone but our inability to create TO's and our ability to create untimely penalties contributed to scoring defense ranking. want to believe the main problem was Martinez' schemes and philosophy more than our overall talent.

true we did lose 3 senior DT's but our returning dline isn't completely inexperienced. certainly don't see uga being any worse than last year on D....even slight improvement should translate into another victory or two.
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Well the main problem was that your linebackers and dbs are soft and cant tackle which is hard to blame on the defensive coordinator.
 
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notweak2 said:
Bama's DB's will be young, but they do have some very talented players. This secondary will in short order be better than the departed secondary. Folks talk about Darious (sp) but truth be known, Darious is no match for Dameon Square. Hightower is more talented than McClain and should fill the bill and them some. NG Chapman @ 315 is the strongest player on the team and has had tons of playing time. He'll be a Junior this year and will make people forget about Mnt. Cody.
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Serious AL homerism here. Secondary inexperience is secondary inexperience. That's not going to change in a couple games. If QBs get time, the secondary will prove worse than the last by a decent margin.

Hightower coming off of a knee reconstruction is not a better football player than McClain. Healthy you might have a little bit of an argument, but not much.

Chapman is a good football player but was behind Cody for a reason. He can't defend the run the same way, period.
 
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BigPapaVol said:
Serious AL homerism here. Secondary inexperience is secondary inexperience. This is true. That's not going to change in a couple games. If Bama could only find a good secondary coach...OH WAIT!:dance2: If QBs get time,You and I both know this aint happening. the secondary will prove worse than the last by a decent margin.

Hightower coming off of a knee reconstruction is not a better football player than McClain. Healthy you might have a little bit of an argument, but not much. It's your opinion -vs- my opinion.:dunno:

Chapman is a good football player but was behind Cody for a reason.Chapman got almost 2/3 the number of snaps that Cody got. There is no doubt that Cady was a fine player with huge armpits, but Chapman's strength and quickness IMO put him ahead of Cody. He can't defend the run the same way, period.
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I respect your opinion and appreciate your input.:hi:
 
#36
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notweak2 said:
I respect your opinion and appreciate your input.:hi:
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The defensive front being in the backfield all the time has nothing to do with the secondary talent or the guy coaching the secondary. They are inexperienced and it will show itself. Last year's squad was talented, experienced and coached by the same guy. It will not get better this season.

Hightower is a stud. Rolando McClain was the best inside linebacker in the AA. Hightower has a ways to go to be that and he's going to try it in year one of a knee reconstruction. Good luck.

He did get more snaps, but that was about Cody's fitness as much as anything. Cody is a run plugging DT. There aren't many out there. Chapman is not the same thing. I think Chapman is a better football player overall, but he is not the same on 1st down.

The Alabama D will be a solid unit and is loaded with talent. It will not be better than last year's group.
 
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AFL2008 said:
1. USCe
2. Alabama
3. Florida
4. LSU
5. UGA
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Jury is out on AL and UF. LSU gets any play from their underperforming DTs and they'll be as good as anyone. They legitimately have a corner that can shut down a side of the field. It's almost like playing against Crompton every week.
 
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BigPapaVol said:
The defensive front being in the backfield all the time has nothing to do with the secondary talent or the guy coaching the secondary. They are inexperienced and it will show itself. Last year's squad was talented, experienced and coached by the same guy. It will not get better this season.

Hightower is a stud. Rolando McClain was the best inside linebacker in the AA. Hightower has a ways to go to be that and he's going to try it in year one of a knee reconstruction. Good luck.

He did get more snaps, but that was about Cody's fitness as much as anything. Cody is a run plugging DT. There aren't many out there. Chapman is not the same thing. I think Chapman is a better football player overall, but he is not the same on 1st down.

The Alabama D will be a solid unit and is loaded with talent. It will not be better than last year's group.
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A solid unit on Defense is really all any team can ask for from their D, right?

IMO, we will lose at least one game this season strictly because of special teams.... We have NO experienced punter, kicker or return man.
 
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RT1941 said:
A solid unit on Defense is really all any team can ask for from their D, right?

IMO, we will lose at least one game this season strictly because of special teams.... We have NO experienced punter, kicker or return man.
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solid is fine, if the offense can pick up the slack. The last two AL title winners needed greatness. This unit won't be as dominant. Lack of dominance opens the door for upsets, quirky results and the like.
 
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BigPapaVol said:
The defensive front being in the backfield all the time has nothing to do with the secondary talent or the guy coaching the secondary. But it ISa huge factor in how successful the secondary will be. Mark this down, Alabama's pass defense ranking will be better than last year. They are inexperienced and it will show itself. Last year's squad was talented, experienced and coached by the same guy. It will not get better this season.

Hightower is a stud. Rolando McClain was the best inside linebacker in the AA. Hightower has a ways to go to be that and he's going to try it in year one of a knee reconstruction. Good luck. Hightower's knee is 100% as of now. He is the hardest working player on the team according to many.

He did get more snaps, but that was about Cody's fitness as much as anything. Being "Fit" is a large part of being good. Cody is a run plugging DT. There aren't many out there. Chapman is not the same thing. I think Chapman is a better football player overall,If you'll remember, that was my original point. but he is not the same on 1st down.

The Alabama D will be a solid unit and is loaded with talent. It will not be better than last year's group.
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By years end, this group will rank better than the '09 group.
 
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BigPapaVol said:
Jury is out on AL and UF. LSU gets any play from their underperforming DTs and they'll be as good as anyone. They legitimately have a corner that can shut down a side of the field. It's almost like playing against Crompton every week.
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I don't think Chavis can do that though.
 
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BigPapaVol said:
Serious AL homerism here. Secondary inexperience is secondary inexperience. That's not going to change in a couple games. If QBs get time, the secondary will prove worse than the last by a decent margin.
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That's the same argument I heard before the Tennessee-Cal game in 2006 from the Bear fans in regards to starting freshman Syd'Quan Thompson. The same guy who got torched repeatedly by Robert Meachem.

No matter how good you are, breaking in new defensive backs can be exceptionally dangerous.
 
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oUTKickedCoverage said:
That's the same argument I heard before the Tennessee-Cal game in 2006 from the Bear fans in regards to starting freshman Syd'Quan Thompson. The same guy who got torched repeatedly by Robert Meachem.

No matter how good you are, breaking in new defensive backs can be exceptionally dangerous.
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sydquan had a broken arm and for some unknown idiotic reason was put one on one on meachem. doubt the same will be said for saban.
 
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droski said:
sydquan had a broken arm and for some unknown idiotic reason was put one on one on meachem. doubt the same will be said for saban.
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Thought he sprained his thumb, all I see is a soft cast on part of his hand.

Yeah... after looking at the photos, he obviously had a thumb injury.
 
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