Muschamp needs a convincing win.

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Much talk has been made about how well the Vols are playing, and how poorly the Gators are playing.

The scary thing about UF is that they have the athletes to put together a great game, no matter how bad they played the week before, or the year before. This is also true of the Vols. So despite everything you've heard, or read, you can expect one thing this weekend. Expect to be entertained by a gut wrenching game win or lose.

Here is a snap-shot of the Gators since from last year until now:

2013 Florida Gators Football Schedule
Final Record: 4-8, 3-5 (SEC)

Aug. 31 Toledo Rockets , Gainesville, FL Won 24-6
Sept. 7 Hurricanes at Miami (FL) Lost 21-16
Sept. 21 Volunteers Gainesville, FL Won 31-17
Sept. 28 Wildcats at Kentucky Won 24-7
Oct. 5 Razorbacks Gainesville, FL Won 30-10
Oct. 12 Tigers at LSU Lost 17-6
Oct. 19 Tigers at Missouri Lost 36-17
Nov. 2 Georgia Bulldogs Jacksonville, FL Lost 23-20
Nov. 9 Vanderbilt Gainesville, FL Lost 34-17
Nov. 16 Gamecocks at South Carolina Lost 19-14
Nov. 23 Georgia Southern Gainesville, FL Lost 26-20
Nov. 30 Florida State Gainesville, FL Lost 37-7

2014 Florida Gators Football Schedule
Current Record: 2-1, 1-1 (SEC)


Aug. 30 Idaho Vandals Gainesville, FL Canceled
Sept. 6 Eastern Michigan Gainesville, FL Won 65-0
Sept. 13 Kentucky Wildcats Gainesville(OT)Won 36-30
Sept. 20 Crimson Tide at Alabama Lost 42-21
Oct. 4 Volunteers at Neyland 12:00 p.m. ET

According to many Gator fans, the sure sign that their program is on a downward slope is because they have lost their competitive edge, and most importantly, their competitive edge at home. We all know how that feels, we've been there going on 10 years now.

Despite this being a new year, and Muschamp's Gators starting out with a 2-1 record so far, last year's record still seems to be looming large over Muschamp's shoulder. To truly help distance himself at all from the hot seat chatter, he needs his Gators to rise to the occasion this weekend at Neyland stadium in front of a sellout crowd of 102,544 orange and white checkerboard clad fans screaming at the top of their lungs, and pull out a resounding victory.

You heard me right. Not just a victory. He needs a convincing win this Saturday. I don't think just a victory will do it, and here's why. Even though UT is currently a 2.5 point favorite, UF in my opinion isn't the underdog. There is no way Muschamp should lose this game with the talent, streak momentum, and the experience edge he takes into this game; and Florida faithful know it. If Butch Jones' Vols can manage to go toe to toe the entire game, or dare I say it, beat down a deeper, more experienced UF team for a win, the difference will simply, and unequivocally be coaching.

As for now the question remains, is there real trouble down in Gainesville, and if so, just how BIG is it?

On the flip side of that coin, even with a 2-2 record, many fans will argue that Butch Jones has a young Vols squad arguably playing UT's best football in perhaps a decade in the minds of many UT fans. The Vols are showing real signs they are on the upside of a downward decade. But as we all know too well, playing well, and developing the will and the capacity to win big games are 2 different things. So just how far have the Vols come under Butch Jones, if any? Can these young Vols realistically pull off the upset? Will they show tangible, significant signs that UT has finally turned a corner this Saturday? Is this storied program finally headed in the right direction, which is winning meaningful games from this fan's perspective?

There's also another question I'd like to ask. Butch Jones has recruited at an elite level, but is this game important from a recruiting stand point?

In my opinion, it most definitely is. Butch Jones has recruited well despite our record. How much better will he be when the Vols actually start winning on a consistent basis. Many will argue that the sky is the limit for him under those circumstances.

One of the fundamental building blocks of a team is how well it recruits, so there is little doubt why there are millions of dollars spent in the battle for elite talent across this great country. In the high stakes game of recruiting, every game is important. Each week is another chance to make an impression with potential players. Some will be good, and some will be bad. Commitments will be gained, and lost with the passing of each week based on performance. Both of these programs compete on a daily basis off the football field for some of the same recruits, but the most important battle for these recruits will take place on the field Saturday. It won't necessarily take a win to solidify some of these recruits, but rest assured the winner will hold the upper hand with most of them.

So once again we find ourselves locked up with UF in a battle of importance. No, it may not be a battle with National title hopes on the line that both fan bases had once grown so accustomed too, but it is most assuredly a game with the hopes and dreams of fans, coaches, recruits, and players alike, all hanging in the balance.

With so much at stake, the eyes of the nation will once again be focused this Saturday on Neyland stadium, where all of this week's preparation, hype, talk, hopes, and dreams will come to a head at 12 noon eastern. The atmosphere is sure to be electric. The fans are sure to be loud. The stage has been set for one of college footballs great rivalries. The pundits have all weighed in. The fans have once again put their weekly prognostication skills to the test. The game plans are set. The practicing is all but over. The trash talk has begun.

All that's left now is to play the game.
 
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Agreed.

I think UF has everything to lose in this one.

If they beat UT, then nothing has changed. UT is still considered young, one year away, etc. It won't look as good after the fact for UF.

If they lose, the wheels come completely off and the view on UT will start to change.

This has the potential to be a game where our upward trend and their downward trend intersect and each teams' trajectory continues through the season. At worst UT comes out of this with no change on the national level. At best, we are talked about as finishing second in the east, worst case.

Other than 10 in a row (which lets face it, has become the norm) the only thing I really fear if we lose this game is the server meltdown Freak will have to deal with.
 
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Agreed.

I think UF has everything to lose in this one.

If they beat UT, then nothing has changed. UT is still considered young, one year away, etc. It won't look as good after the fact for UF.

If they lose, the wheels come completely off and the view on UT will start to change.

This has the potential to be a game where our upward trend and their downward trend intersect and each teams' trajectory continues through the season. At worst UT comes out of this with no change on the national level. At best, we are talked about as finishing second in the east, worst case.

Other than 10 in a row (which lets face it, has become the norm) the only thing I really fear if we lose this game is the server meltdown Freak will have to deal with.

I agree. Butch and UT are playing with the house's money in this game. Florida by all rights should actually be a road favorite. If the Vols lose this game they will be 2-3 and continuing their course of a 6-6 record and the bowl appearance most of us thought before the season started. I bet that our players will be looser out on the field than any of Tennessee's previous nine squads. This team has little to lose and everything to gain Saturday night and will reflect in the final score.
 
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Don't try to pretend there's no pressure on Tennessee in this one. Stop.

You can't read the posts on this board and believe it.

Florida is terrible. Tennessee is at home. There is no reason to lose this one and if Tennessee does, all of you will be pissed something fierce
 
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Don't try to pretend there's no pressure on Tennessee in this one. Stop.

You can't read the posts on this board and believe it.

Florida is terrible. Tennessee is at home. There is no reason to lose this one and if Tennessee does, all of you will be pissed something fierce

Pissed, yes. But Butch Jones isn't going anywhere if we lose this Saturday.
 
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Pissed, yes. But Butch Jones isn't going anywhere if we lose this Saturday.

No, but that doesn't mean there isn't pressure to win just because his job isn't on the line Saturday.

These are the kind of games that need to be won. Unranked team at home.
 
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Don't try to pretend there's no pressure on Tennessee in this one. Stop.

You can't read the posts on this board and believe it.

Florida is terrible. Tennessee is at home. There is no reason to lose this one and if Tennessee does, all of you will be pissed something fierce

Most of us chalked this one as a loss in the preseason. We all know that this board suffers from the 'Oregon game syndrome' where every fan on here is calling for a 21 point Volunteer rout 48 hours prior to kickoff no matter how daunting the opponent. This game is no different.
 
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Don't try to pretend there's no pressure on Tennessee in this one. Stop.

You can't read the posts on this board and believe it.

Florida is terrible. Tennessee is at home. There is no reason to lose this one and if Tennessee does, all of you will be pissed something fierce

The ones who will be pissed are the same ones who say things like "Muschump" and "Gators." Those of us living in reality recognize that Florida is a more talented team -- period. The more talented team usually wins. I think we can overcome the talent gap because it's not as monumental as it has been in the past and because of coaching, but there would be absolutely nothing shocking about a loss.

You're extrapolating from the orange blinder crowd who says we're gonna whup they arse. The same crowd thought we would beat Oklahoma. The same crowd last year calling for the historic upset in Eugene. I don't know that I agree with the notion that Tennessee fans are a special kind of deluded (Alabama is more deluded, in my opinion -- it's just that being really good has masked their delusion), but you're blatantly picking which posts to pay attention to. There are a significant number of people nervous about this game and recognizing that, while things seem to be in our favor, this is going to be really close and we will be lucky to win.

If Worley goes out with an injury, that's basically it, for example. Donezo. No doubt there are some irrational fans who think we're Alabama, but we're not.
 
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Don't try to pretend there's no pressure on Tennessee in this one. Stop.

You can't read the posts on this board and believe it.

Florida is terrible. Tennessee is at home. There is no reason to lose this one and if Tennessee does, all of you will be pissed something fierce

Honestly, I won't be anymore pissed than any other year. It might be different if we had a far superior team and we lost, but we don't.

Things are definitely set up for us to pull out the win though. This is a big time win for Coach Jones, he needs to get it.
 
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Don't try to pretend there's no pressure on Tennessee in this one. Stop.

You can't read the posts on this board and believe it.

Florida is terrible. Tennessee is at home. There is no reason to lose this one and if Tennessee does, all of you will be pissed something fierce

There IS a ton of pressure on UT to win this, no doubt, but it's a short-lived pressure.

A loss here will mean nothing if we beat Ole Miss, Missouri, South Carolina, or Bama by some miracle.

It's not like you guys are looking to spoil our trip to ATL or the playoffs.

90% of the Vols fanbase will be happy to see Butch Jones, Justin Worley, and A.J. Johnson lifting a Liberty Bowl trophy on a cold night in Birmingham.

A win against the Gators will certainly make that seem like a more certain reality, but it's not essential to make it happen.
 
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Even though I know we can win, it's hard for me to expect that we should win until we are actually winning rather than just 'keeping it close.' With that said, I can't stop myself from getting too excited for this game and I'm primed for a meltdown if we don't pull it out.
 
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Don't try to pretend there's no pressure on Tennessee in this one. Stop.

You can't read the posts on this board and believe it.

Florida is terrible. Tennessee is at home. There is no reason to lose this one and if Tennessee does, all of you will be pissed something fierce

^^^ This ^^^

There's pressure on CBJ to win this game because it's probably the one he needs to get his team to a bowl game. IF UT drops below 6-6 this season then CBJ will feel the pressure/hot seat next season.

Yes, Muschamp needs to win to help keep his job this season.
 
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^^^ This ^^^

There's pressure on CBJ to win this game because it's probably the one he needs to get his team to a bowl game. IF UT drops below 6-6 this season then CBJ will feel the pressure/hot seat next season.

Yes, Muschamp needs to win to help keep his job this season.

Sure, it would really really help our bowl chances. And I want this one -- I want it bad. It just won't be the end of the world if we lose. The last time we lost where I thought, "That's close to a season killer" was 2012. Other than that? Not really.

Trust me, I'll be disappointed if/when we lose, but I'm not gonna lose my mind. Plenty here will, of course, but hey, this is VolNation.

Also, 99, you're talking like you expect us to win going away, but you've also been saying you're feeling better about the game. I think there's a reason for that. It's going to be close. UF has more talent than us. IF we're gonna win it's gonna be a nailbiter I'm afraid.
 
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Don't try to pretend there's no pressure on Tennessee in this one. Stop.

You can't read the posts on this board and believe it.

Florida is terrible. Tennessee is at home. There is no reason to lose this one and if Tennessee does, all of you will be pissed something fierce

Yep. This one we need, if only to prove we are who we think we are and to catch some national level attention. Too many reasons why we should be able to win. In some ways it may be more important for us because Muschamp can just say it was a tough loss in a tough location--it is too early for it to be the cost of his job. While it won't cost Butch his job either, it could plant some seeds of doubt which we don't need now.
 
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Although they may have the talent, social media and public statements reveal they have a bunch of very good players, who are not a cohesive team. If a WR is willing to call for his QBs job in public, imagine how those individuals act towards eachother in private.
 
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there is a ton of pressure on ut to win this, no doubt, but it's a short-lived pressure.

A loss here will mean nothing if we beat ole miss, missouri, south carolina, or bama by some miracle.

It's not like you guys are looking to spoil our trip to atl or the playoffs.

90% of the vols fanbase will be happy to see butch jones, justin worley, and a.j. Johnson lifting a liberty bowl trophy on a cold night in Memphis
a win against the gators will certainly make that seem like a more certain reality, but it's not essential to make it happen.

fyp
 
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Don't try to pretend there's no pressure on Tennessee in this one. Stop.

You can't read the posts on this board and believe it.

Florida is terrible. Tennessee is at home. There is no reason to lose this one and if Tennessee does, all of you will be pissed something fierce

Agreed
 
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Don't try to pretend there's no pressure on Tennessee in this one. Stop.

You can't read the posts on this board and believe it.

Florida is terrible. Tennessee is at home. There is no reason to lose this one and if Tennessee does, all of you will be pissed something fierce

How do the posts on this board have anything at all to do with whether there is/is not pressure on UT?

FWIW, there's always pressure when you have a monkey on your back like that one... I just don't see the association with posts on a chat board.


UF is talented. Terrible? Hard to say. Bama beats everyone. UK played over their heads. EMU... well, that's what you expect.

This is more of a measuring stick game than any UF has played this year.
 
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^^^ This ^^^

There's pressure on CBJ to win this game because it's probably the one he needs to get his team to a bowl game. IF UT drops below 6-6 this season then CBJ will feel the pressure/hot seat next season.

Yes, Muschamp needs to win to help keep his job this season.

Jones will be on a hot seat if he fails to make a bowl this year. UT should beat Chatt, UK, and Vandy. Mizzou and USCe can be the 6th win.... maybe Ole Miss. We'll know more about them after this weekend. I kind of expect that one to get ugly for the Rebels.
 
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Don't try to pretend there's no pressure on Tennessee in this one. Stop.

You can't read the posts on this board and believe it.

Florida is terrible. Tennessee is at home. There is no reason to lose this one and if Tennessee does, all of you will be pissed something fierce

I thought we've lost nine straight to Florida because we kept finding a way to lose despite having better teams. Now, the pressure is on Florida.

So confused.
 

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