Mueller Report Imminent

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lawgator1 said:
First, you assume that Barr's representation of no collusion is accurate and comprehensive.

Second, you assume Mueller "left it" to DOJ to decide. False. It is just as likely he left it to Congress to resolve, as a political not a criminal question.

Point is, Barr's behavior has increasingly been suspicious and casting doubt on his "version" of what the report says. Release it. THE WHOLE THING. Not just some carved up shell of its contents.
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"As a political not a criminal question" JFC do you read your own ****? You just admitted this is all a witch hunt.

Why would a criminal investigation care at all about the politics? Completely irrelevant.
 
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luthervol said:
No. We only know about them because they DIDN'T stay secret. We have no way of knowing which things did stay secret. That's the thing with secrets.
I guess we need a theft and a supreme court case. Which is where this will end up.

Let's not forget......this is all due to the desire to hide information damaging to Trump.
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Actually it was due to the desire to hide info damaging to Clinton.

What are you going to jump on in 24 hours and this comes out?
 
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NCFisher said:
First, your post assumes I have a dog in the fight, that I must be a fervent Trump supporter because I tell the left how unhinged they've become by their hatred of the guy. Even if that were the case, why would I be "terrified" of a report which has concluded not only no conspiracy on the part of the president, but that NO ONE in the campaign conspired with Russian agents to affect the election?? And that the DOJ has concluded - even aside from the question of whether a sitting president can be prosecuted - that he did not obstruct the investigation?

If I were the Trumper you imagine me, I'd be pretty damned happy about that conclusion, wouldn't I? Why wouldn't you simply as an American, be happy about that?

Now I want to know how such a baseless investigation of such magnitude, occurred.
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This, just for the bump
 
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lawgator1 said:
Our disdain for Trump is exceeded only by our contempt for so-called patriotic conservatives who blindly seem hell bent on protecting him.
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Pointing out holes in your logic is not defending Trump. Breaking down bad arguments is not defending Trump. Explaining how this country and our laws work is not defending Trump.

You are merely crazy and we are just pointing out reality, which is not your fever dream.
 
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luthervol said:
Unless he is forbidden to comment. In that case, I hope he puts what is right above what is legal. I'm not sure I can trust him to do that. He seems obsessed with following the law.
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Lol. Factually correct isnt as important as being morally correct e tu' luther?

Remind me where does lying sit on the continuum of morality?
 
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lawgator1 said:
Stop it. Without knowing what is in it, you absolutely cannot say that it has been proven to be without substance. You are like 4 year old Trump. Stomp your feet and say it over and over again and it will drown out the truth.

Stop it. Everyone can see what you, he, and Barr are doing. Stop it.
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SIAP but IRONY!
 
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Franklin Pierce said:
President Trump could find out tomorrow which members of his administration were disloyal to him.

I bet there are some sweaty palms.
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They should cooperate. No reason for them not to.

What they shouldn't do is what LG and Luthor want them to do, lie an ignore the law.
 
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LouderVol said:
Dude he got lit up for releasing a summary. And he knows 90% of people will never read it for themselves.
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He didn't have to write his own summary to begin with.... Members of the Mueller team explained to The New York Times that they included their own "summary of principal findings" with the full report when it was submitted. Barr chose not to use that and instead put it in his own words along with cherry-picked information favorable to Trump.
 
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NCFisher said:
Because during the last three weeks his character has been assassinated, as well as DOJ. I'd take the opportunity to explain - again - that just like the summary, this was a team effort between DOJ officials, legal team, Rosenstein (who created the investigation), and that attorneys from DOJ *and* the Special Counsel performed the necessary redactions as a team effort.

And explain the four categories of redacted information, why the redactions, and explain that even redacted versions of the report exceed any statutory obligations to Congress. I'd explain that this isn't Watergate or Whitewater; neither are the rules governing the Mueller investigation the same as those. That the DOJ during the Clinton era replaced those rules with those he lawfully had to observe in this investigation.

In short, I'd explain why this isn't "a Bill Barr Production!" as Democrats and lapdog media have framed it. I'd do their damned job for them and defend the post-investigation conclusion.
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He has already done that... and his character has been assassinated? Seriously? What has Trump spent the last two years doing to Robert Mueller on Twitter but attacking his character and integrity? How many press conferences has Mueller held? Give me a break. This press conference is about spin city and playing defense for Trump - which is not his job.
 
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AM64 said:
Yet you were happy with Barry, and couldn't wait for Hiliary to win ... except she didn't because she was more despicable than Trump. You've got some strange values, Luther.
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I was happy with Obama. I would have been happy with Hillary even though I voted for the Bern. Hillary's president would have been spent defending herself against the insanely rabid right.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
He didn't have to write his own summary to begin with.... Members of the Mueller team explained to The New York Times that they included their own "summary of principal findings" with the full report when it was submitted. Barr chose not to use that and instead put it in his own words along with cherry-picked information favorable to Trump.
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You mean those “anonymous sources “ that told the times the AG shouldnt just go by Muellers report , they also want to be a SP and have their opinions matter as much as their bosses does ? Robert muellers final report is the only one that matters . It’s kinda how things work , otherwise you could have 20 different people saying 20 different things . It’s already a cluster F from the start , why would you want to muddy it up any more than it already is ? 🤔
 
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Coug said:
This is not DIM spin. If Barr and the rest of the Trump lackeys want to try and keep the truth from everyone I hope Congress subpoenas Mueller himself which is by the way absolutely an option and it will be the most watched program on TV ever in history. Break out the popcorn because it'll get real.
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LOL Most watched show in history. I didn’t think anyone could surpass Luther dumb but congratulations ya did it.
 
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LouderVol said:
Lol. Factually correct isnt as important as being morally correct e tu' luther?

Remind me where does lying sit on the continuum of morality?
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I want him, and all others, to be both. But who am I kidding?
Lying has its own continuum, but it also is a component of the morality continuum.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
He didn't have to write his own summary to begin with.... Members of the Mueller team explained to The New York Times that they included their own "summary of principal findings" with the full report when it was submitted. Barr chose not to use that and instead put it in his own words along with cherry-picked information favorable to Trump.
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Members of the Muells team did not explain to the NYTs. People “close” to the Muells team and even worse, people “close” to those who are “close” to the Muells team talked to the NYTs.
 
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hog88 said:
Members of the Muells team did not explain to the NYTs. People “close” to the Muells team and even worse, people “close” to those who are “close” to the Muells team talked to the NYTs.
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Don’t you know in liberal terms that’s exactly the same thing as “ team mueller said “ ? Well , unless Fox reports it then it just pure trash . 😂
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
He didn't have to write his own summary to begin with.... Members of the Mueller team explained to The New York Times that they included their own "summary of principal findings" with the full report when it was submitted. Barr chose not to use that and instead put it in his own words along with cherry-picked information favorable to Trump.
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if you read someone's early post (maybe bhams) Mueller's summary was only to be released IF the report wasn't. The report IS going to be released, so Mueller's summary would have been redundant. why produce to the public two separate articles from the same source at the same time?

Also Mueller's summary's would have faced the same redactions as they allegedly contain testimony
 
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luthervol said:
I want him, and all others, to be both. But who am I kidding?
Lying has its own continuum, but it also is a component of the morality continuum.
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lying in such a manner to divide the country seems like its pretty far off the deep end of morality.
 
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SpaceCoastVol said:
So you know these things then since you were there. How old are you?
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If you cannot recognize a joke, I have few words for you. Most people would read it and think "mick is trying to be funny" but for you and 72 it's like" Mick said something so I have to respond because I hate him so much".
 
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LouderVol said:
both things were happening under Obama. I don't remember deficit spending being an issue then. or even increasing it. at least for you.
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Deficit spending is a huge issue. That's just one of many reasons I usually support democrats. The rate of increase in deficit spending is ALWAYS higher under republican administrations.
Reagan was the founding father of deficit spending and the right idolizes him. Go figure.
 
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