Most of the Volnation is very unrealistic!

[LebanonVolunteer]

Yeah!! :lolabove:

Just expect less!!

If you do not expect to win, dealing with losing is alot easier. I think this guy has it all figured out.

OH how we have fallen.lol:

 

[Ned Ray McWorkher]

Fulmer won 10 or more 9 out 17 years. Never going more than two seasons without. 6 title games in 17 years. Never going more than two season without.

 

[Wylo]

Has any other team ever played their first 5 SEC games against all top 15 teams?

They wouldn't all stay top 15 teams if Dooley could actually beat one of them.

 

[Wylo]

Let me try to help you Mr GRUDENite dreamer so you might actually post a fact or 2 rather than garbage to try and support your delusional agenda that Gruden will ever coach at Tennessee.

1...There's LOTS more to rebuilding a totally destroyed football progam than just the Win/Loss record which is mostly all you and your emotion filled rants ever talk about.

2...You say, in such an immature manner, that all our coaches suck but coaches that DO have SEC Championship rings and National Championship rings would NEVER even get a job on a coaching staff that good if they sucked like you and many other say they do.

3...You always try to blame everything on coaches but never on players or a roster that's still not even close to the rosters we have to play against and talent and the number of really good players on a team DOES matter as does depth, knowledge and experience of those players.

4...1 minute you say all the old coaches ran away to get new jobe BUT the next minute you say CDD replaced them all....Just ADMIT that you have NO IDEA which is was and stop your childish spin to try and fit your agenda or at least WRITE down what you say so you can try to at least be consistent rather than making up things as you go along, LOL!

5...You say in year 3 we're supposed to see progress but you see NONE...LMAO!

You see NONE because you freely CHOOSE to see no progress so it will fit your agenda, LOL!

Last year you said our O linemen sucked.

Last year you said all our RB's sucked.

You said we would NEVER have a running game until we got real SEC type O linement and RB's, LMAO!

CDD said he would fix our running game and he DID that with the SAME O linemen and the SAME RB's as we had last year so Factually you were totally WRONG about all our O linemen and all our RB's, LOL!

You see NO progress but try to LOOK at our current player roster and try to THINK for once my friend.

When CDD got here we might have had 5 or 6 future NFL players on our roster and new CDD has our roster with probably 18 to 20 future NFL players on our roster so I think that IS progress my friend.

Last year we would get totally BLOWN OUT by all the top SEC teams and we were NOT even close to being competitive BUT now this year we HAVE been lots more competitive and if our new 3-4 D was in the 2nd year and we had stopped just 3 to 5 big scoring plays in each game except for Bama we would probably be a 1 loss team, ranked in the top 10 and already be the SEC East championship winner but shame on CDD for trying to have a great Defence like Bama and like Kelly built at Notre Dame, LOL.

OK, enough with another GRUDENite for now but keep dreaming and maybe your agenda and dream might come true.

VFL...GBO!!!

You finally came back. All the bottom feeders disappear after yet another loss that was predicted a win. Then they show back up and spout off more loser talk.

 

[Ned Ray McWorkher]

They wouldn't all stay top 15 teams if Dooley could actually beat one of them.

Nah. Only one is unbeaten. Some have two losses. Still top 15.

 

[ncvol17]

Do you realize you are about the 50th person who has posted the exact same rant over and over again?

Tht puts him 500+ down over the rants to fire CDD

 

[Blackmarket803]

MegaMillions numbers Nostradamus?

Don't even play that card. Judging by the product that we put out on the field compared to those other teams, we will lose.

 

[Neylandsmaxims]

I will not apologize for expecting the Tennessee Vols to continue doing what they been doing, traditionally. That is win, and win often. Competing for SEC East titles every year is not unrealistic. 4 SEC East titles /decade is a little much, but I'll take it. 2 SEC Titles/decade sounds great.

 

[Neylandsmaxims]

Thank you for deleting my hateful post, MODERATOR. It was over the top, and inappropriate. I'll do better, sir.

 

[tnlacombe]

Do you guys realize all 5 losses are to SEC (hands down the toughest conference in college football, unprecedented) teams in the top 15 of the BCS with a combined record of 36-5? Of course, all 5 losses are to those in the top 15 of the BCS. Do you remember UT was competitive in all 5 losses except 1? Do you realize no one has been competitive with Bama this year? Do you realize that UT had a very good chance of winning 3 of those games with last years DC? Whoever brought in an unproven DC needs to be fired now!!! If it was ultimately Dooley, see ya Dooley. If not, fire whoever brought in Sal. The D is PATHETIC!!!

I can't help but notice a few key words and/or phrases such as "if ", "we were competitive" and last but certainly not least "we had a good chance." The million dollar ( or in Dools case the 5 million dollar ) question in all this is , did we win or did we lose, that's all that matters. My friend, you cannot build a reputation as a coach on coulda , shoulda and if's. Bill Parcells put it best when he said "you are what your record says you are " Go Vols !

 

[TacomaJPP]

My friend, please try to read all my posts before asking such silly questions.

No way do I have the free time to read all of your posts.

I am NOT a huge supporter of CDD and I'll NEVER be a supporter of any specific coach.

I support my Tennessee Vols and that includes all players and coaches no matter who they are at the time.

Those two statements absolutely conflict one another. Regardless, I'm a supporter of the football program. There are some coaches I don't support (typically after a certain point in time) and there are some players I don't care for. Sometimes it is best for the team and program for poor coaches and players to move on. Hopefully, their leaving improves the team...addition by subtraction.

Facts prove that we're much closer to getting Wins against all the best SEC teams right now except for bama and we're closer in only year 3 and with CDD only getting 2 of his recruiting classes on the team than we really should be.

We started 2010, 2011, and 2012 as 0-5 in the SEC. All three years, no SEC wins in the first five SEC games. Maybe our losses are not as severe, but losing is losing. Granted, no one likes getting blown out...

THINK...If our D was in the 2nd year of our 3-4 we would be a much better D already.

THINK...If we had stopped 3 to 5 big plays on D or made a couple more big plays on the O then we would now be a 1 loss tream, ranked top 10 and would be the SEC East Champions.

THINK, we have the worst defense in the SEC. All major stats bear that out.

THINK, a good coach may have been worth those critical few plays...CDD doesn't appear to be. I usually refer to the immediate impact of Bruce Pearl to the basketball program immediately following the "bad luck" of Buzz Peterson. The difference in losing a bunch of close games versus winning them is "x's and o's" coaching.

Majors won a National Championship at Pitt but how many years before he could Win 10 games or a SEC Championship?

How many years did Fulmer win 10 games?

We didn't start playing 12 game regular seasons until 2002. Therefore, Majors never played a 12 game regular season. Fulmer only had 7 of his 16 seasons where 12 regular season games were played. Fulmer's last 7 seasons, he had 3 10 win seasons. Of those 7 he also had 2 losing seasons.

Dooley has had 2 losing seasons. We will probably not have a losing season this year, but then again we could.

I'm not making any real points there other than stating the facts.

Nick Saban is the best coach/recruiter in college football but what was his record at Michigan State his first 5 years?

I understand the point you are trying to make, but Mich State isn't Tennessee (or Alabama in his case). Some places will only be so good because of base talent, budgets, recruiting budgets, facilities, and fan base. Tennessee arguably has some of the highest numbers in most of those categories (minus the recruiting base in the state of TN).

I can only guess at the answer to your question my friend but based on the progress I see already and if we get our Defense fixed and we don't lose Bary, Patterson, Hunter and others I honestly believe we'll Win the SEC East next season.

When CDD walked in the door at Tennessee if someone told me we would have a legit shot at a SEC East Championship in just 4 years I would have had serious doubts since most all smart people believed it would take 5 years of good recruiting to stack up against the top SEC East teams since they're loaded with great talent already.

I look at many things from all aspects and not just the Win/loss record and I consider many things rather than to post things based only on emotions and things that just aren't logical at all like everything is all the coaches fault.

Things would be alot nicer around here and we could have more intelligent discussions if most people did these things but on VN emotions run wild, logic is out the window and people can never admit when they make a mistake.

We'll definitely have to agree to disagree. I can't see us beating Florida and Georgia at this point. Our talent pool isn't as deep as Florida and Georgia and our player losses will be much more impactful than their losses. I see next year potentially being tougher for us.

I would consider a 10 win season in the SEC east to happen about 40-50% of the time given the facilities, budget, and heritage of the University of Tennessee. I also figure that we should be competing for the SEC title that same amount. We should be winning the SEC title probably once every 5 years or so.

Bottom line, we see the trends differently. I don't see an upward trend, you do. Time will tell.

 

[Neylandsmaxims]

If expecting UT to beat ranked teams at least 50% of the time, and 75-90% of the time at home, is unrealistic(In your mind) then you are a severely uninformed, or a very young Vol fan. This is TENNESSEE. We beat ranked teams!! We expect to effect the National Championship, in some manner. We expect to be in the mix, more often than not.

If you want to settle for "Competing" then YOU ARE NO FAN!! Please take your "It's great to compete" attitude to UK or Vandy, please.

I would expect more intelligience from a Steelers, Braves, and Vols fan! I have been a UT fan for 28 years. I was on the hill from 85-89. I expect more than mediocrity and expect UT to compete for SEC East Titles every year and win atleast 4 SEC East Titles and 2 SEC championships every decade!!! However, replacing Dooley with another unproven coach will not solve the problem. If Hart can get a top five proven college or pro coach to come to UT, fire Dooley immediately. If not, fire Sal or improve the D drastically immediately!!!

You call me stupid, yet, by your own admission, you agree with my expectations for this program. So, I guess I'm just "stupid" for wanting Dooley fired, at the end of THIS SEASON. Ok, so you can't even see or COMPREHEND the logic behind firing CDD? I see your logic, for keeping him. I just DO NOT AGREE. Throw your insults, Doolaider. No respect here. ignored.

Oh BTW, I've been a fan for nearly 40 years.

 

[volswillrise12]

My friend, please try to read all my posts before asking such silly questions.

I am NOT a huge supporter of CDD and I'll NEVER be a supporter of any specific coach.

I support my Tennessee Vols and that includes all players and coaches no matter who they are at the time.

IF AD Hart decides we need a new coaching staff and fires this staff then I'll support the nect coaches.

Facts prove that we're much closer to getting Wins against all the best SEC teams right now except for bama and we're closer in only year 3 and with CDD only getting 2 of his recruiting classes on the team than we really should be.

THINK...If our D was in the 2nd year of our 3-4 we would be a much better D already.

THINK...If we had stopped 3 to 5 big plays on D or made a couple more big plays on the O then we would now be a 1 loss tream, ranked top 10 and would be the SEC East Champions.

Majors won a National Championship at Pitt but how many years before he could Win 10 games or a SEC Championship?

How many years did Fulmer win 10 games?

Nick Saban is the best coach/recruiter in college football but what was his record at Michigan State his first 5 years?

I can only guess at the answer to your question my friend but based on the progress I see already and if we get our Defense fixed and we don't lose Bary, Patterson, Hunter and others I honestly believe we'll Win the SEC East next season.

When CDD walked in the door at Tennessee if someone told me we would have a legit shot at a SEC East Championship in just 4 years I would have had serious doubts since most all smart people believed it would take 5 years of good recruiting to stack up against the top SEC East teams since they're loaded with great talent already.

I look at many things from all aspects and not just the Win/loss record and I consider many things rather than to post things based only on emotions and things that just aren't logical at all like everything is all the coaches fault.

Things would be alot nicer around here and we could have more intelligent discussions if most people did these things but on VN emotions run wild, logic is out the window and people can never admit when they make a mistake.

I said all Summer NOT to overexpect too much from this team when most were saying we would Win 9, 10 or more games this season but most were wrong and now they're all upset and overemotional and looking for everything bad rather than to look for anything good or progress that's right in front of their eyes.

It is what is is my friend and that's life here on VN.

VFL...GBO!!!

You are a genius my friend---I see now your incredible logic and deduction. Dooley's masterful coaching and recruiting will have us in the driver seat in the East in no time. Why just look at the masterful use of time outs that have dotted his tenure such as in the Bama game when none of the players appeared to know what play was called and Dooley had to burn a timeout--but by your amazing deduction I'm sure you determined that Dooley used his amazing football IQ to get that one accomplished! I could give you one scenario after the other about how poorly coached and run this football program is because its taking place right before your very eyes smart guy!

How about this one where (stop me if you've heard this one) Dooley said during the offseason "Tennessee won't be kicked around anymore!" You would have thought with a proclamation like that we would have beaten a poor Kentucky team last year but alas that master motivator Dooley couldn't get it done! Well I guess that fans and big money people in Knoxville should just wait until Dooley gets a significant SEC win huh? How long? I bet you are one of these old farts that wants to bring back Fulmer too!

I guess you agree with Saban on Dooley "Tennessee played better against us" . It's like the bully saying "thanks friend" after threatening the weaker kid for his lunch money.

The best part about this is that once what done is done you'll find out what the real opinions are and why you are so wrong in what you say in your arrogant high minded fashion.

 

[Panthro]

You do realize that we have to play these teams every year, right? Also, this guy doesn't just lose to ranked teams. HE LOST TO KENTUCKY!

 

[TacomaJPP]

Fulmer won 10 or more 9 out 17 years. Never going more than two seasons without. 6 title games in 17 years. Never going more than two season without.

Of the "10 or more 9 out of 17 years," there is the element of counting SEC Championships and bowl games. I was referring to regular season wins.

That being the case, he only did that:

1993, 1995, 1997, 1998, 2001, and 2003. That is 6 of 17 10+ regular season wins.

Not trying to stir anything up; just posting the facts.

 

[Vercingetorix]

Thank you for deleting my hateful post, MODERATOR. It was over the top, and inappropriate. I'll do better, sir.

You can be hateful. You can be over the top. You can be a little inappropriate. You can't be all three unless you're at least a little clever about it. Now get back out there and try harder.

 

[1972 Grad]

You do realize that we have to play these teams every year, right? Also, this guy doesn't just lose to ranked teams. HE LOST TO KENTUCKY!

Battle lost to North Texas State, Majors lost to Rutgers, Fulmer lost to Memphis, Saban at Alabama lost to Louisiana Monroe. Stuff happens.

 

[Ned Ray McWorkher]

Of the "10 or more 9 out of 17 years," there is the element of counting SEC Championships and bowl games. I was referring to regular season wins.

That being the case, he only did that:

1993, 1995, 1997, 1998, 2001, and 2003. That is 6 of 17 10+ regular season wins.

Not trying to stir anything up; just posting the facts.

Oh, sorry. I was thinking you meant games that Fulmer coached for Tennessee. Silly me.

 

[Ned Ray McWorkher]

Don't even play that card. Judging by the product that we put out on the field compared to those other teams, we will lose.

So your speculative powers only work on the 2013 schedule? Figures.....

 

[TacomaJPP]

Oh, sorry. I was thinking you meant games that Fulmer coached for Tennessee. Silly me.

Yes, silly you. Using only regular season games, it is more normalized. Not all teams will make the SEC Championship game nor will they all make bowl games. This means we can compare apples to apples.

Don't take the facts personal; they don't discriminate.

 

[steelejacs]

I got gas

 

[Pepe_Silvia]

Expecting a coach who is 0-15 against ranked teams in his time at UT to suddenly turn it around is totally realistic. Thank God we have the Dooley people here to keep everybody in check.

 

[Ned Ray McWorkher]

Yes, silly you. Using only regular season games, it is more normalized. Not all teams will make the SEC Championship game nor will they all make bowl games. This means we can compare apples to apples.

Don't take the facts personal; they don't discriminate.

What? The facts are after the season was over we had won 10 or more 9 times. But cut it up how you like. Don't make me none either way. I am just waiting on those lottery numbers from Nostradamus.

 

[Air_Force_Vol27]

Do you guys realize all 5 losses are to SEC (hands down the toughest conference in college football, unprecedented) teams in the top 15 of the BCS with a combined record of 36-5? Of course, all 5 losses are to those in the top 15 of the BCS. Do you remember UT was competitive in all 5 losses except 1? Do you realize no one has been competitive with Bama this year? Do you realize that UT had a very good chance of winning 3 of those games with last years DC? Whoever brought in an unproven DC needs to be fired now!!! If it was ultimately Dooley, see ya Dooley. If not, fire whoever brought in Sal. The D is PATHETIC!!!

How about give it one more year to implement the deffense.

 

[Ned Ray McWorkher]

Expecting a coach who is 0-15 against ranked teams in his time at UT to suddenly turn it around is totally realistic. Thank God we have the Dooley people here to keep everybody in check.

Also we are thankful we have Pepe le Pew. Although no one nows why.