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in program history and have to get this one right. This program is in a lot better shape financially and on the field (despite recent results) than when Dooley or Butch took over. However, there will be a lot of fans taking a wait and see approach with the next hire and if UT goes the mid-major/bargain bin route again there will be a lot of potential for apathy, which this program cannot afford right now. Therefore, we need to at least swing for the fences with this hire and go after a Kelly or Stoops even if we don't land them to show the fanbase that the program is committed to trying to win. If we go for another mid-major type, then I think this just signals that the AD is all about the bottom line and doesn't care about winning.

With that being said, I see the following as the most likely options:
1. Venables
2. Norvell
3. Frost
4. Cooter

I have lost all faith in this program.
 
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Chip Kelly could take this team and win the East in his first year. It would be a grand slam hire. It makes so much sense doing it, that of course it won't happen. Here's to hoping Currie breaks the mold of administrative incompetence.
 
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I don't see any of those being hired, but who knows. I think we make a more expensive hire, just so currie can get the fan base to shut up.
1. Petrino
2. Les Miles
3. I could actually see JBC being offered the job. I just can't see him leaving the NFL.
4. Leach
 
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TennTom said:
Chip Kelly could take this team and win the East in his first year. It would be a grand slam hire. It makes so much sense doing it, that of course it won't happen. Here's to hoping Currie breaks the mold of administrative incompetence.
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Chip Kelly wouldn't work here. A dual threat offense will never work in the SEC. Plus we'd have to rebuild our roster. We run near the same offense as kelly ran, but without the players that fit in the system. For some reason Butch likes recruiting players that he knows aren't going to fit in the system. Ex. pro style quarterback in a spread read option scheme.
 
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Grudenator said:
I don't see any of those being hired, but who knows. I think we make a more expensive hire, just so currie can get the fan base to shut up.
1. Petrino
2. Les Miles
3. I could actually see JBC being offered the job. I just can't see him leaving the NFL.
4. Leach
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You think those hires would get the fan base to shut up?
 
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I've heard and read this sentiment routinely every time UT goes hunting the next coach. This hire won't break the program, but I agree that we need to hope that Currie and the program can finally entice a proven head coach to lead our program. While many claim the admin is cheap, I worry that the list of "name" coaching candidates who want to come to Knoxville isn't nearly as long and star studded as the fans want to believe. The area isn't for everyone. The SEC is a tough league to succeed in and the fans are rarely satisfied. Expectations, culture and the workload to win at the highest levels here will give many a coach a reason to pause on our job. If fans would take off the orange glasses and really consider our situation and how it looks to a coach like...say....Patterson, they might begin to see its not always just about the money. Hell, when you get to a certain point with income, it's more about comfort, lifestyle, family and generally being happy and content. Money becomes secondary. That's a fact that's often overlooked and ignored by many in our fan base. Bottom line is that I don't see Gruden, Kelly or Patterson in orange. I'm convinced it will, once again, go to an up and comer and it won't be because UT went cheap. I'm also pretty sure we will overpay this up and comer just to seal the deal with him just like we've done before.
 
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Grudenator said:
Chip Kelly wouldn't work here. A dual threat offense will never work in the SEC. Plus we'd have to rebuild our roster. We run near the same offense as kelly ran, but without the players that fit in the system. For some reason Butch likes recruiting players that he knows aren't going to fit in the system. Ex. pro style quarterback in a spread read option scheme.
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All false lol
 
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Grudenator said:
Chip Kelly wouldn't work here. A dual threat offense will never work in the SEC. Plus we'd have to rebuild our roster. We run near the same offense as kelly ran, but without the players that fit in the system. For some reason Butch likes recruiting players that he knows aren't going to fit in the system. Ex. pro style quarterback in a spread read option scheme.
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Urban Meyer says hi.

I prefer a pro set, but this post is absurd.
 
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CAVPUT said:
I've heard and read this sentiment routinely every time UT goes hunting the next coach. This hire won't break the program, but I agree that we need to hope that Currie and the program can finally entice a proven head coach to lead our program. While many claim the admin is cheap, I worry that the list of "name" coaching candidates who want to come to Knoxville isn't nearly as long and star studded as the fans want to believe. The area isn't for everyone. The SEC is a tough league to succeed in and the fans are rarely satisfied. Expectations, culture and the workload to win at the highest levels here will give many a coach a reason to pause on our job. If fans would take off the orange glasses and really consider our situation and how it looks to a coach like...say....Patterson, they might begin to see its not always just about the money. Hell, when you get to a certain point with income, it's more about comfort, lifestyle, family and generally being happy and content. Money becomes secondary. That's a fact that's often overlooked and ignored by many in our fan base. Bottom line is that I don't see Gruden, Kelly or Patterson in orange. I'm convinced it will, once again, go to an up and comer and it won't be because UT went cheap. I'm also pretty sure we will overpay this up and comer just to seal the deal with him just like we've done before.
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You sir have made the smartest comment on here! I want a top tier coach, I'm sure Currie will call all of them but if they don't say yes it's not his fault!
 
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CAVPUT said:
I've heard and read this sentiment routinely every time UT goes hunting the next coach. This hire won't break the program, but I agree that we need to hope that Currie and the program can finally entice a proven head coach to lead our program. While many claim the admin is cheap, I worry that the list of "name" coaching candidates who want to come to Knoxville isn't nearly as long and star studded as the fans want to believe. The area isn't for everyone. The SEC is a tough league to succeed in and the fans are rarely satisfied. Expectations, culture and the workload to win at the highest levels here will give many a coach a reason to pause on our job. If fans would take off the orange glasses and really consider our situation and how it looks to a coach like...say....Patterson, they might begin to see its not always just about the money. Hell, when you get to a certain point with income, it's more about comfort, lifestyle, family and generally being happy and content. Money becomes secondary. That's a fact that's often overlooked and ignored by many in our fan base. Bottom line is that I don't see Gruden, Kelly or Patterson in orange. I'm convinced it will, once again, go to an up and comer and it won't be because UT went cheap. I'm also pretty sure we will overpay this up and comer just to seal the deal with him just like we've done before.
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I partially agree with this in that UT and the SEC are not for every coach. However, there has to be a Saban-type out there who would be willing to take the money, if offered, given the facilities and budget UT has at its disposal. We are the mpst profitable program in the conference and that has to mean something. I personally think Kelly could be that guy - highly successful in college and better in NFL than either Saban or Spurrier - and determined to prove the doubters wrong. Not saying we make this hire as it would not be UT's MO, but damn why not try?
 
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bnhunt said:
I partially agree with this in that UT and the SEC are not for every coach. However, there has to be a Saban-type out there who would be willing to take the money, if offered, given the facilities and budget UT has at its disposal. We are the mpst profitable program in the conference and that has to mean something. I personally think Kelly could be that guy - highly successful in college and better in NFL than either Saban or Spurrier - and determined to prove the doubters wrong. Not saying we make this hire as it would not be UT's MO, but damn why not try?
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Honestly, I think UT has tried in the past. We offered a lot of money to Charlie Strong. Of that I'm certain. Likely several others. Gundy perhaps? This just isn't the job and location for everyone. As much as I'd like to see Gruden here, he's just not going to give up his cushy, lucrative gig on TV for the job. I don't see Kelly being a fit and I don't see our admin going for him. Personalities would be sure to clash. Patterson has a great thing going at TCU. He's set there. Why uproot and step into a meat grinder like the sec? I just don't think it's as easy as folks seem to think.

I can see a Brohm or Frost type, but even that isn't a lock. They might have a dream job they feel is near opening up and prefer to wait. The job is tough and not easily filled.....or at least that's how I explain the hiring of Dooley.
 
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bnhunt said:
However, there has to be a Saban-type out there who would be willing to take the money, if offered, given the facilities and budget UT has at its disposal.
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Here's a little food for thought. Saban, like a lot of coaches, did not enjoy the NFL although he thought he might. Moreover, his wife was very unhappy in Miami and it was she that encouraged him back into college coaching. That, and Rich Rodriquez turning down the job, which lead him back to Tuscaloosa.

Coaches sometimes aren't looking to go somewhere. Sometimes, they are escaping.
 
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Boston Vol said:
You think those hires would get the fan base to shut up?
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The fan base is not the problem. They have never coached a game and have been very supportive of the program regardless of the quality of coaching. UT is lucky to have such a passionate fan base after the last 15 years.
 
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salutethehill said:
Urban Meyer says hi.

I prefer a pro set, but this post is absurd.
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How is it absurd? Because Meyer had a man in Tebow and he could actually run? A majority of his other quarterbacks slung it downfield. Chris Leak for example had 300 career rushing yards lol. In his 3 years without Tebow, his Quarterbacks had a whopping total of 528 yards rushing. That's not exactly a dual threat offense. Meyer's is a power-based spread offense. Our offense doesn't know what power is.
 
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Grudenator said:
How is it absurd? Because Meyer had a man in Tebow and he could actually run? A majority of his other quarterbacks slung it downfield. Chris Leak for example had 300 career rushing yards lol.
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You’re right. Let’s hope UF hires Chip Kelly, because it would never work.

I’m sorry, your post is in fact, absurd. If you can get Chip Kelly you do it and don’t look back.
 
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Grudenator said:
How is it absurd? Because Meyer had a man in Tebow and he could actually run? A majority of his other quarterbacks slung it downfield. Chris Leak for example had 300 career rushing yards lol.
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Chris leak lead the winning drive 21-20. Over the vols on way to nc.
 
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rjd970 said:
You’re right. Let’s hope UF hires Chip Kelly, because it would never work.

I’m sorry, your post is in fact, absurd. If you can get Chip Kelly you do it and don’t look back.
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Eagles never beat a winner under Chip Kelly?

Cross out Eagles, and insert Vols. I'm sorry but Chip Kelly didn't face the grind of an SEC schedule year in and year out at Oregon. The NFL proved his offense is very one-dimensional.
 
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