More Obamacare BS

[Carl Pickens]

I spoke with my nephew last night about the impact Obamacare was having on his employer. He's a financial analyst at one of the largest hospitals in Nashville. He said they made $30 million last year, but after taking into account the amounts that will be paid by Obamacare versus that of private insurance they would have lost $35 million.....yep.....a $65 million swing. They've already laid off about 130 and expect to lay off some more.

If it affects this hospital in such a manner, it will close the smaller ones.....MANY of them.....facking US is getting what they deserve for electing so many facking liberal democrats

 

[McDad]

If you will read the ACA carefully, you will see it simply guarantees access to care. It doesn't assure us providers of that care.
In fact, if this act causes a hospital shortage crisis, that crisis will not go to waste. Heavens no. The hospital shortage crises will be used to demagogue the rich doctors and rich hospital administrators.
Eventually, the fearful public will demand something be done. DC political class will pass the Public Hospital Urgent Care to Keep Us Stable (***** US) act. Once enacted, this legislation will cause more emergencies which will require more federal intervention.
It is all progressing as designed.

 

[W.TN.Orange Blood]

Thanks to the Food Stamp President, there's some more people to be in line waiting. I hope America's happy for all this terrible sh*t that's about to hit the fan. I know lawgator1 is real happy about all the Federal Laws & regulations that will come down on the people of America. Democrats won't to impose more strict rules & strict regulations on our life so this Nation will be weak & fall cause the economic structure that they will allow to happen. Democrats don't care about anything except votes. Democrats don't care about the people of this Nation. They like to laugh in your face & demonize the other's that differ in their opinions. Democrats are a racists bunch. If your opinions are different than theirs they call you racist cause they have nothing else to say.

 

[VOLS INC.]

Thanks to the Food Stamp President, there's some more people to be in line waiting. I hope America's happy for all this terrible sh*t that's about to hit the fan. I know lawgator1 is real happy about all the Federal Laws & regulations that will come down on the people of America. Democrats won't to impose more strict rules & strict regulations on our life so this Nation will be weak & fall cause the economic structure that they will allow to happen. Democrats don't care about anything except votes. Democrats don't care about the people of this Nation. They like to laugh in your face & demonize the other's that differ in their opinions. Democrats are a racists bunch. If your opinions are different than theirs they call you racist cause they have nothing else to say.

:lolabove::lolabove::lolabove:

 

[hndog609]

Thanks to the Food Stamp President, there's some more people to be in line waiting. I hope America's happy for all this terrible sh*t that's about to hit the fan. I know lawgator1 is real happy about all the Federal Laws & regulations that will come down on the people of America. Democrats won't to impose more strict rules & strict regulations on our life so this Nation will be weak & fall cause the economic structure that they will allow to happen. Democrats don't care about anything except votes. Democrats don't care about the people of this Nation. They like to laugh in your face & demonize the other's that differ in their opinions. Democrats are a racists bunch. If your opinions are different than theirs they call you racist cause they have nothing else to say.

In fairness I know a number of people I'm certain voted for Obama that I would absolutely consider "good people". There is a very strong adherence however to the "wouldn't it be nice if" line of social thinking conjoined to a thunderous naivite of fiscal anything.

 

[W.TN.Orange Blood]

:lolabove::lolabove::lolabove:

That's what I'm talking about. They just laugh it up cause they know it's true and have nothing else to say. 45 million people on food stamps & it's really ho-ho funny that people (American) are suffering & y'all think it's funny. Unemployment is down the tubes...nobody can find a good paying job cause of this Food Stamp President...the man is keeping people from living out the American Dream. It's really funny for those that are suffering. Ha Ha Ha. :thumbsup:

 

[Carl Pickens]

THere are a lot of good people that vote for Hussein.....that's what amazes me the most about the whole thing.....the ones that have enough sense to see what's going on, but vote for a democrat anyway.....its as if they think everything said about Hussein is only said to try and damage him....... everything is a conspiracy.

It disappoints me that these type of folks don't take the time to read anything other than Doonesbury.

 

[Ashevolle]

Thanks to the Food Stamp President, there's some more people to be in line waiting. I hope America's happy for all this terrible sh*t that's about to hit the fan. I know lawgator1 is real happy about all the Federal Laws & regulations that will come down on the people of America. Democrats won't to impose more strict rules & strict regulations on our life so this Nation will be weak & fall cause the economic structure that they will allow to happen. Democrats don't care about anything except votes. Democrats don't care about the people of this Nation. They like to laugh in your face & demonize the other's that differ in their opinions. Democrats are a racists bunch. If your opinions are different than theirs they call you racist cause they have nothing else to say.

 

[Roughneck]

I spoke with my nephew last night about the impact Obamacare was having on his employer. He's a financial analyst at one of the largest hospitals in Nashville. He said they made $30 million last year, but after taking into account the amounts that will be paid by Obamacare versus that of private insurance they would have lost $35 million.....yep.....a $65 million swing. They've already laid off about 130 and expect to lay off some more.

If it affects this hospital in such a manner, it will close the smaller ones.....MANY of them.....facking US is getting what they deserve for electing so many facking liberal democrats

Can someone make any sense out of this? It sounds like you are referring to St. Thomas, which employees about 6,500 people. So by that math, Obamacare will cost $10,000 MORE per person each year than what they are paying now? That doesn't sound right. Am I missing something?

 

[PKT_VOL]

Calm down folks. We are on our way a universal, single-payer healthcare system.

 

[BigPapaVol]

Can someone make any sense out of this? It sounds like you are referring to St. Thomas, which employees about 6,500 people. So by that math, Obamacare will cost $10,000 MORE per person each year than what they are paying now? That doesn't sound right. Am I missing something?

Yes. You're missing that he's talking about the revenues rather than the costs. He didn't even address the costs.

 

[Carl Pickens]

Yes. You're missing that he's talking about the revenues rather than the costs. He didn't even address the costs.

Correct......I asked about that and he said the numbers he gave me reflected the same expenses for the year.....the only thing the $65 million swing contemplated was the change in revenue.

Regardless of how much they can reduce their expenses this is more than enough information to scare the living shjt out of them.....the fact remains that the bill is a jobs killer.....will do nothing to reduce health care costs...will expand the size of government....will increase the level of control the government has over us.....will lead to a reduced quality of care.....reduced number of hospitals.....underpaid doctors....reduced number of doctors....it's a totally shjtty piece of legislation that was rammed down the throats of the American people.....before the damn thing was even written.....the democratic azzholes that passed it voted on a concept

 

[PKT_VOL]

Correct......I asked about that and he said the numbers he gave me reflected the same expenses for the year.....the only thing the $65 million swing contemplated was the change in revenue.

Regardless of how much they can reduce their expenses this is more than enough information to scare the living shjt out of them.....the fact remains that the bill is a jobs killer.....will do nothing to reduce health care costs...will expand the size of government....will increase the level of control the government has over us.....will lead to a reduced quality of care.....reduced number of hospitals.....underpaid doctors....reduced number of doctors....it's a totally shjtty piece of legislation that was rammed down the throats of the American people.....before the damn thing was even written.....the democratic azzholes that passed it voted on a concept

I find it simply astounding that the electorate doesn't have a clue about this concept.

Everyone keeps arguing about how to pay for healthcare. Nobody talks about to reduce the costs of healthcare. Then the electorate/politicians sit back and scratch their heads about why we are flat broke with more and more people doing without adequate healthcare coverage.

 

[VOLS INC.]

That's what I'm talking about. They just laugh it up cause they know it's true and have nothing else to say. 45 million people on food stamps & it's really ho-ho funny that people (American) are suffering & y'all think it's funny. Unemployment is down the tubes...nobody can find a good paying job cause of this Food Stamp President...the man is keeping people from living out the American Dream. It's really funny for those that are suffering. Ha Ha Ha. :thumbsup:

I'm laughing because you have no idea what you are talking about. Blaming the dems for the recession and lack of jobs? Make no mistake Obama has not fixed the economy but look at the economy in 2000 when Bush came into office....then look at the economy 8 years later when Obama came into office. I'm sure ill get blasted on here for blaming Bush but facts are facts. Mad at Obama for not fixing the country in four years? Thats fair and I respect that stance...but why is Obama needing to fix anything?
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[TSwafford]

detriot is a great example of liberal democrat leadership and what it does

 

[W.TN.Orange Blood]

I'm laughing because you have no idea what you are talking about. Blaming the dems for the recession and lack of jobs? Make no mistake Obama has not fixed the economy but look at the economy in 2000 when Bush came into office....then look at the economy 8 years later when Obama came into office. I'm sure ill get blasted on here for blaming Bush but facts are facts. Mad at Obama for not fixing the country in four years? Thats fair and I respect that stance...but why is Obama needing to fix anything?
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Still living in the past are we? Obama's policies suck...they don't work & never will, that's why the Republicans would block as many as possible. He has no fresh ideas on how to jump start this poor economy or how to create jobs. Oh, he saved GM but with "your" TAX dollars. Obama has no clue as a problem solver & the people he appoints don't know what to do either but laugh & call people racist for not following along with his agenda of big government & more spending. But you liberals keep laughing it up & party on like there's nobody going hungry these days & when you lose "your job" if you have a good paying job & are standing in line for your goodies you will thank the President for the hand outs I'm sure. And for your one sided view on things, I do know what I'm talking about. All you have to do is get those Obama rose colored glasses off your nose & stop drinking the kool-aid of Democratic talking points and see what a leader does without a teleprompter by all the wrong things he says....he's lost when he doesn't read his speech.

 

[VOLS INC.]

Still living in the past are we? Obama's policies suck...they don't work & never will, that's why the Republicans would block as many as possible. He has no fresh ideas on how to jump start this poor economy or how to create jobs. Oh, he saved GM but with "your" TAX dollars. Obama has no clue as a problem solver & the people he appoints don't know what to do either but laugh & call people racist for not following along with his agenda of big government & more spending. But you liberals keep laughing it up & party on like there's nobody going hungry these days & when you lose "your job" if you have a good paying job & are standing in line for your goodies you will thank the President for the hand outs I'm sure.

Way to ignore the question...you should run for office. Why is Obama needing to fix anything? Why did he inherit so many problems? Answer the question sir.
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[W.TN.Orange Blood]

Way to ignore the question...you should run for office. Why is Obama needing to fix anything? Why did he inherit so many problems? Answer the question sir.
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Why? He inherited his own problems that he has not done anything about. You ignore that the country is off to a big down fall economic wise. That's what Presidents do. They fix things that liberals keep messing up. :lolabove:

 

[VOLS INC.]

He inherited his own problems in 08? The economy on the brink of the worst recession since the great depression in early 2008 was Obamas doing? Please enlighten me.
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[PKT_VOL]

I'm laughing because you have no idea what you are talking about. Blaming the dems for the recession and lack of jobs? Make no mistake Obama has not fixed the economy but look at the economy in 2000 when Bush came into office....then look at the economy 8 years later when Obama came into office. I'm sure ill get blasted on here for blaming Bush but facts are facts. Mad at Obama for not fixing the country in four years? Thats fair and I respect that stance...but why is Obama needing to fix anything?
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The POTUS gets way too much credit and way too much blame for the economy.

Acting as if Bush caused the crash is ridiculous.

Acting as if Obama is the reason why the economy hasn't recovered is ridiculous.

 

[PKT_VOL]

Still living in the past are we? Obama's policies suck...they don't work & never will, that's why the Republicans would block as many as possible. He has no fresh ideas on how to jump start this poor economy or how to create jobs. Oh, he saved GM but with "your" TAX dollars. Obama has no clue as a problem solver & the people he appoints don't know what to do either but laugh & call people racist for not following along with his agenda of big government & more spending. But you liberals keep laughing it up & party on like there's nobody going hungry these days & when you lose "your job" if you have a good paying job & are standing in line for your goodies you will thank the President for the hand outs I'm sure. And for your one sided view on things, I do know what I'm talking about. All you have to do is get those Obama rose colored glasses off your nose & stop drinking the kool-aid of Democratic talking points and see what a leader does without a teleprompter by all the wrong things he says....he's lost when he doesn't read his speech.

You are so partisan it borderline retarded.

 

[VOLS INC.]

The POTUS gets way too much credit and way too much blame for the economy.

Acting as if Bush caused the crash is ridiculous.

Acting as if Obama is the reason why the economy hasn't recovered is ridiculous.

Your correct! I should have said Bush Administration. It's not as if he personally was the reason. The Potus is the leader though. He will ultimately get the blame when it goes wrong and a monument when it goes right. My point, that the uniformed simple minded poster I was addressing can't seem to comprehend, is you can't look at the state of the economy today make the dems the scapegoat. How many times did you hear " boy bush sure inherited a mess in 2000" Never! The truth is both parties have failed.
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[PKT_VOL]

Your correct! I should have said Bush Administration. It's not as if he personally was the reason. The Potus is the leader though. He will ultimately get the blame when it goes wrong and a monument when it goes right. My point, that the uniformed simple minded poster I was addressing can't seem to comprehend, is you can't look at the state of the economy today make the dems the scapegoat. How many times did you hear " boy bush sure inherited a mess in 2000" Never! The truth is both parties have failed.
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The Bush Administration was not the cause of this mess. To imply such a notion is to illuminate that you did not understand my post to which you responded.

 

[VOLS INC.]

The Bush Administration was not the cause of this mess. To imply such a notion is to illuminate that you did not understand my post to which you responded.

So who or what was the cause in your opinion?
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[W.TN.Orange Blood]

You are so partisan it borderline retarded.

That makes two of us moron. Happy Thanksgiving. It's time to get ready for all the fixins...talk later maybe.