Monte's Defense: Getting a Free Ride??????

#26
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BigPapaVol said:
I believe that's true. Successful HS programs are transitioning to the spread every day and losing smash mouth at every turn.

It's probably why Saban, who is one of the few to smash successfully right now, is finding such success. People aren't prepared to defend it.
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I completely agree.
 
#28
#28
I have not been satisfied with the defense the last two games. To many yards, missed tackles, etc. The biggest problem though is lack of pressure on the quarterback. Pressure cause bad decisions, forces turnovers, and sacks improves opportunity for forced punts. The last two games again, no sacks, no turnovers, missed tackles everywhere.
Injuries are playing a bigger role than anything. Is Lathers back this week for the middle? He was playing well before he got hurt. Savion is fast but missed to many tackles for a middle linebacker.
 
#29
#29
The fact is you get sacks, fumbles, and interceptions from pressure on the QB. Ask any coach who's played against the spread/ option style offense, if you rush too much you get to see the play pass you by.

Monte's plan (the correct one I might add) was to keep the action in front of the players, and you don't get a large number of turnovers that way.

Keep an eye on the next few games playing against more i-formations and Pro style offenses and you'll see an improvement!!!!
 
#31
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Vol4life09 said:
The fact is you get sacks, fumbles, and interceptions from pressure on the QB. Ask any coach who's played against the spread/ option style offense, if you rush too much you get to see the play pass you by.

Monte's plan (the correct one I might add) was to keep the action in front of the players, and you don't get a large number of turnovers that way.

Keep an eye on the next few games playing against more i-formations and Pro style offenses and you'll see an improvement!!!!
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I agree with above, but we pressured Tebow a lot and they are the best at the spread in the nation, so I can't understand why we couldn't pressure Ohio and Auburn.
We tackled against Florida and well you watch the games.
 
#33
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WinchesterVol said:
I agree with above, but we pressured Tebow a lot and they are the best at the spread in the nation, so I can't understand why we couldn't pressure Ohio and Auburn.
We tackled against Florida and well you watch the games.
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WE did get pressure on Todd. He just kept getting away from it. Seriously we should have had at least 5 sacks in that game.
 
#34
#34
The D definately needs to produce some big plays. They've been quiet for two games now, time for a breakout game where fumbles bounce our way and we get an interception or two and my favorite play, sack forced fumble.
 
#37
#37
A defense shouldn't be on the field for over 100 plays + the loss of the defensive QB, MLB Nick Reviez. We had to use three time outs just to rest the defense ... very telling. That is why they get a pass for Auburn.
 
#38
#38
An offense that can stay on the field for more than 3 plays at a time is the only thing our D needs. They were on the field for almost FIFTY plays in just the 1st half against a team that spread them out all over the place. You cant expect them to not wear down....and with that comes missed tackles, mental mistakes, etc. We have a top-shelf defense, but those kids are not robots....they get tired. They are CONSTANTLY put out there with their backs against the wall, opponents starting on our side of the 50 because our our non-existant offense and kickoff coverage. Period.
 
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#39
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BuckeyeVols said:
An offense that can stay on the field for more than 3 plays at a time is the only thing our D needs. They were on the field for almost FIFTY plays in just the 1st half against a team that spread them out all over the place. You cant expect them to not wear down....and with that comes missed tackles, mental mistakes, etc. We have a top-shelf defense, but those kids are not robots....they get tired. They are CONSTANTLY put out there with their backs against the wall, opponents starting on our side of the 50 because our our non-existant offense and kickoff coverage. Period.
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Amen brother.
 
#40
#40
orange+white=heaven said:
Third downs all over again.

To their credit, the players are owning up to it.

"No excuses," he said. "If we are tired, it's our fault. It's our fault we're still out there. It's our fault. Get off the field. Create a turnover. You can't blame that on anybody else. That's on us."

-Rico

"It really gets to you," UT senior defensive lineman Wes Brown said. "You want to get off the field and give the offense a chance to score. We've been working on third down, and we've just had some tough times lately.
"We've just got to get off the field on third downs. No excuses."


-Wes


"It's hard to deal with," Lane said. "We're there, but there's nine sacks that we've missed in the past two games. They're there to be had, but we've got to do a better job scheming them up, and we've got to do a better job making plays when it's there.
"Both the quarterbacks we've played the past two weeks, when you go back and watch it, they did a great job making a lot of plays out of rhythm. They did a great job, but we've got to do a better job getting them down the first time, so they can't make those scramble plays."


-Lane


"We're like 36 percent or something (on third downs), but that's still not good enough," Monte said. "Making plays ... that's why you play the game."


-Monte
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The above quotes summarize it up far better than I could.
 
#41
#41
I always thought Monte's defense was about score mitigation, not necessarily yardage reduction. we've got much room to improve - MUCH room - but I'm having a blast watching so far.
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#42
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IBlvNTmWrk said:
All I know is that when I played, we practiced against "tackling" dummies... not "hitting" dummies. If we didn't wrap our arms the coaches would drive a knee into the dummy and knock us on our arsses. It you couldn't tackle, you didn't play defense.
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This.

I don't understand the fold your arms, lower your shoulder, take an angle and hope you blow a ball carrier up approach. Wrap up the legs! It's not that hard.

It's like our entire secondary, Berry included, doesn't believe you can hit someone hard and wrap them up at the same time.
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#43
#43
BigPapaVol said:
I don't think you turn people into great tacklers. You can help with coaching, but great tacklers are a little like great shooters - born.
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I don't agree. As painful as it is to say I saw a time or two in the last couple of games that Eric Berry decided to tackle ball carriers by trying to knock them over with his shoulder block like he did Knowshon Moreno and they just bounced off and kept going. I know he knows how to wrap up and getting coached to do so should be beneficial.
 
#44
#44
BuckeyeVols said:
An offense that can stay on the field for more than 3 plays at a time is the only thing our D needs. They were on the field for almost FIFTY plays in just the 1st half against a team that spread them out all over the place. You cant expect them to not wear down....and with that comes missed tackles, mental mistakes, etc. We have a top-shelf defense, but those kids are not robots....they get tired. They are CONSTANTLY put out there with their backs against the wall, opponents starting on our side of the 50 because our our non-existant offense and kickoff coverage. Period.
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I agree with the rest of the post, but would add that our special teams need to improve. Lousy coverage after kickoffs and punts, and the inability to pin the other team deep into their own territory when punting is really hurting the defense.
 
#45
#45
when the offense goes 3 and out for the majority of the first half and the defense is gassed by halftime its hard to expect greatness esp considering the injury and depth issues. That being said I do respect the "no excuses" policy the staff and players are taking and have faith that we'll get it worked out.
 
#46
#46
I think its a combination of having several key players playing hurt or not at all and then not having a lot of depth and spending a lot of time on the field.
 
#47
#47
Expecting the same results as the NFL in college is asinine. In the NFL you have to have the players to execute the system. We have the same problem on offense as well. Give them time to get the players they need.
 
#48
#48
IBlvNTmWrk said:
That's because many of them don't tackle (i.e. wrap their arms)... they just prefer to hit. Watch them. They fold their arms at the chest and just try to drive into the offensive player, and occasionally this works and it shows up on youtube, espn, etc. with everyone talking about it (Janzen Jackson)... which unfortunately reinforces the bad technique. Personally, this drives me crazy and I'd just as soon see a defensive player make a shoe string tackle. Or better yet, hit and wrap at the same time... don't know why there isn't more emphasis on this.
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Now you've done it...prepare to be crucified for criticizing the great Janzen Jackson.

How dare you point out the fact that our true freshman still has flaws in his game to work on, notably wrapping up.
 
#49
#49
Pooods said:
Injuries and overall talent doesn't show the full picture of Monte's coaching talent. Same goes for little Kiff. Let's see their recruits and then give them an assessment in 2 or 3 years.
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Dang is Gene Chizik in his 3rd year already? Didn't know that!
 
#50
#50
rockydoc said:
Not trying to defend Crompton and our offense's ineptitude, but the last two games our defense has been subpar, IMO. We made two average quarterbacks (Ohio's and Auburn's) look like NFL all-pros. Auburn with their gimmic high school offense ran up almost 500 yards on us and controlled the clock,,,,,much in the first half, when, hopefully we were not tired. When was the last time we got a sack or a turnover?

No, I'm not becoming a Posivol. I'm quite happy with our staff, especially the defensive staff, but it is what it is and next year may not be better with the loss of Williams, Berry, and McCoy.

Be patient.
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Be Patient???? Maybe not posting this is a better idea then,

This problem has three sides. Look our defense is thin at Linebacker, very thin. This is part of the problem. Then another problem is lack of film on Auburn and Ohio was familiar with Monty and what he does on Defense.

The biggest problem we have on defense is the offense not helping our defense. You can't go out and run three plays and punt. You can't throw INT's every time you turn around, and you can't give up 50 yard kick off returns and punt returns. When we put our defense in a hole the options we have and pressure we can put on the opposing team become less.

Our defense has had us in every game this year......Monty is the Man.
 
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