Monte's Defense: Getting a Free Ride??????

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Not trying to defend Crompton and our offense's ineptitude, but the last two games our defense has been subpar, IMO. We made two average quarterbacks (Ohio's and Auburn's) look like NFL all-pros. Auburn with their gimmic high school offense ran up almost 500 yards on us and controlled the clock,,,,,much in the first half, when, hopefully we were not tired. When was the last time we got a sack or a turnover?

No, I'm not becoming a Posivol. I'm quite happy with our staff, especially the defensive staff, but it is what it is and next year may not be better with the loss of Williams, Berry, and McCoy.

Be patient.
 
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The D has been weak, no two ways about it.
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Um go look at our injury report and then repost why don't ya. Hard to keep the same intensity with 2nd to 4th stringers out there
 
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You're right, hasn't been a good two weeks for the defense. I have faith Monte will get that straightened out though, hopefully this week. Injury's have hurt a already thin defense. Apparently Chris Walker is the only guy on the D-line that can be disruptive, sigh and he's hurting right now.
 
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strongtower said:
Um go look at our injury report and then repost why don't ya. Hard to keep the same intensity with 2nd to 4th stringers out there
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We knew UF was running it and they did-well. There are no excuses for that. Ohio wore s out throwing the ball and we had our starters, save Rogan.
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The Ohio game we had many starters on defense out which led to some of the demise of the D in that game. We are not a team that has the depth when the #1 guy comes out the #2 or #3 guy come in with very little drop off. The AU game was against an O that is unlike any other O in the country to defend. We held them to 26pts when they were avg 42 pts a game. I cannot say anything negative against the D other than they need to recover more turnovers their causing.
 
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Injuries and overall talent doesn't show the full picture of Monte's coaching talent. Same goes for little Kiff. Let's see their recruits and then give them an assessment in 2 or 3 years.
 
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from what i saw i wouldnt say chris todd was average, he looked very impressive while he was avoiding sacks and making outrageous throws for first downs. but thats just me
 
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Inuries sure don't help a team that's pretty thin to begin with. Throw in having an offense that basically throws the D under the bus a good percentage of the time and it's just tough.
 
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I'm sort of surprised at this thread... Overall I think our Defense is giving our team a chance to win... esp. their 4th quarter stats - they are strongest when they're needed the most, that's impressive!

I think the Ohio game is what it is - an emotional letdown after an intense FL game, it happens. Those that don't understand it have probably never played team sports. I'm willing to let them have that day as an off day.

The bottom line for TN is the QB. A good QB can execute the offense, a great QB makes those around him better. We have neither.
 
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Third downs all over again.

To their credit, the players are owning up to it.

"No excuses," he said. "If we are tired, it's our fault. It's our fault we're still out there. It's our fault. Get off the field. Create a turnover. You can't blame that on anybody else. That's on us."

-Rico

"It really gets to you," UT senior defensive lineman Wes Brown said. "You want to get off the field and give the offense a chance to score. We've been working on third down, and we've just had some tough times lately.
"We've just got to get off the field on third downs. No excuses."


-Wes


"It's hard to deal with," Lane said. "We're there, but there's nine sacks that we've missed in the past two games. They're there to be had, but we've got to do a better job scheming them up, and we've got to do a better job making plays when it's there.
"Both the quarterbacks we've played the past two weeks, when you go back and watch it, they did a great job making a lot of plays out of rhythm. They did a great job, but we've got to do a better job getting them down the first time, so they can't make those scramble plays."


-Lane


"We're like 36 percent or something (on third downs), but that's still not good enough," Monte said. "Making plays ... that's why you play the game."


-Monte
 
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zehr27 said:
Our tackling is horrible, that's a fact.
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Our tackling has been horrible for the last 6 or 7 years, it's hard to break bad habits. You can't expect the D coaches to turn that around with the older guys in 5 games.
 
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Getting gassed in the second quarter by Auburn is a major concern. I have never seen that before!
 
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Y'all are nuts. The D has played well with the exception of the Ohio game when we were without Rogan, Brown for the entire game, Reveiz and Walker for part of the game. The lack of sacks and turnovers the past two games is alarming but otherwise, they're playing their arse off.
 
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Cackalaka Vol said:
Y'all are nuts. The D has played well with the exception of the Ohio game when we were without Rogan, Brown for the entire game, Reveiz and Walker for part of the game. The lack of sacks and turnovers the past two games is alarming but otherwise, they're playing their arse off.
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did you simply black out the Auburn game because you found it too painful?
 
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zehr27 said:
Our tackling is horrible, that's a fact.
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That's because many of them don't tackle (i.e. wrap their arms)... they just prefer to hit. Watch them. They fold their arms at the chest and just try to drive into the offensive player, and occasionally this works and it shows up on youtube, espn, etc. with everyone talking about it (Janzen Jackson)... which unfortunately reinforces the bad technique. Personally, this drives me crazy and I'd just as soon see a defensive player make a shoe string tackle. Or better yet, hit and wrap at the same time... don't know why there isn't more emphasis on this.
 
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IBlvNTmWrk said:
That's because many of them don't tackle (i.e. wrap their arms)... they just prefer to hit. Watch them. They fold their arms at the chest and just try to drive into the offensive player, and occasionally this works and it shows up on youtube, espn, etc. with everyone talking about it (Janzen Jackson)... which unfortunately reinforces the bad technique. Personally, this drives me crazy and I'd just as soon see a defensive player make a shoe string tackle. Or better yet, hit and wrap at the same time... don't know why there isn't more emphasis on this.
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I think proper tackling is something of a national epidemic...
 
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orange+white=heaven said:
I think proper tackling is something of a national epidemic...
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Agree... but it seems to show up more at the collegiate level vs the NFL (or maybe it's just that I watch more college football). I would expect Monte, with his experience, to change the bad habit.
 
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IBlvNTmWrk said:
Agree... but it seems to show up more at the collegiate level vs the NFL (or maybe it's just that I watch more college football). I would expect Monte, with his experience, to change the bad habit.
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I don't think you turn people into great tacklers. You can help with coaching, but great tacklers are a little like great shooters - born.
 
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BigPapaVol said:
I don't think you turn people into great tacklers. You can help with coaching, but great tacklers are a little like great shooters - born.
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True, but don't you think there's something to the idea that hard contact is being coached less and less at the high school level... and that this tends to filter up?...
 
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orange+white=heaven said:
True, but don't you think there's something to the idea that hard contact is being coached less and less at the high school level... and that this tends to filter up?...
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I believe that's true. Successful HS programs are transitioning to the spread every day and losing smash mouth at every turn.

It's probably why Saban, who is one of the few to smash successfully right now, is finding such success. People aren't prepared to defend it.
 
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All I know is that when I played, we practiced against "tackling" dummies... not "hitting" dummies. If we didn't wrap our arms the coaches would drive a knee into the dummy and knock us on our arsses. It you couldn't tackle, you didn't play defense.
 
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