Monte Kiffin about Tennessee

#77
#77
I think he needed more then 1 year to really get them playing the way he would want. Outside of the Auburn game and the bowl game they did pretty especially against Florida and Alabama.

Ole Miss game? Monte had nothing for McCluster
 
#78
#78
At first, pards, I didn't know why y'all had such resentment toward the Kiffins because all the world saw was a fella takin' a better job. Then, one of the fellas on this address let me know that there is absolutely confirmed evidence that Lane Kiffin was poachin' y'all's players after he left for the golden coast, and that is why y'all don't like the fella. Hell, I'd be rightly upset about that as well, just not 'bout the leavin' deal.
Do you seriously talk like this?
Maybe you just go out of your way to sound like a Texan with down syndrome?
 
#79
#79
I'm somewhat surprised more people haven't gotten over Kiffin leaving yet. I know I have.
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#80
#80
Not to mention, Lane doesn't even get the job without Monte. Lets not act like folks were knocking down his door here. USC's hire of him looks even MORE desperate than UT's. (If that's possible)
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A $4million desperation hire?

Doubtful.
They could have had him for the exact same salary plus an order off the dollar menu. They got Kiffin because they wanted him.
 
#81
#81
A $4million desperation hire?

Doubtful.
They could have had him for the exact same salary plus an order off the dollar menu. They got Kiffin because they wanted him.

Wait, doesn't that prove my point? Why overpay if they could have gotten him for 2 mil, and some nuggets? Desperate bro. And Garrett was a fool.
 
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#82
#82
A $4million desperation hire?

Doubtful.
They could have had him for the exact same salary plus an order off the dollar menu. They got Kiffin because they wanted him.

That is true after they were turned down by the 3 or 4 coaches they wanted more than him.
 
#83
#83
I still don't get all the hate on here for Kiffin. He was just being loyal to his dream school. I would do the same thing if I were a coach in his situation.

Look at it this way, if you were a coach at a big Pac-10 school, say USC, Oregon or UCLA and the coach at UT left and UT wanted you to coach there wouldn't you leave in a heartbeat?

And would you hesitate to try your damnest to get the best players in the nation to go to UT even if you recruited them to the Pac-10 school that you were at?

He was just being 100 percent loyal to his school. I really don't see what the big deal is. Like I said, I wouldn't hesitate to sway those players to UT if I were a coach at another school and had previously recruited them there because UT would be all that I really cared about.

I can sympathize with Kiffin, because of in state tuition reasons, I had to go to Auburn despite watching and attending UT football games my entire life. I like Auburn as well, at the same time, I wish their best players would all decommit and switch to UT.

That is just how it is when your heart is in one place. No one at Auburn understood my feelings and labeled me a traitor. I did what was applicable for me though education wise, out of state tuition was way more than I could afford.....but that didn't mean I would ever turn my back on UT.

My choices were some small college in the state of Georgia, Auburn or UGA. All be damned if I were to ever attend UGA. I lived in Georgia (one of 7 counties accepted for the then waiver of out of state tuition waver at Auburn) and chose to at least attend an SEC school with a big time football culture and atmosphere. But going to Georgia would have been torture. I hate them with a passion.

Also, let's not forget, Kiffin brought us Bray who will prove to be our best QB since Manning IMO.
 
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#84
#84
How is it that montes such a good guy and lane is an @ss. I feel like mrs kiffin cheated on Monte with a d*uchebag and popped out lane. I'm kidding of course.
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When you dedicate enough time to something to be as good as Monte, some things get left off. Mario Andretti is a good guy and a legend. Michael Andretti had his talent but was a complete douchebag. Can't be a perfect father and elite in your profession at the same time.
 
#85
#85
Sounds like he was/is a liability then. The inability to adjust in college football is a death sentence.
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Yeah, he just couldn't figure out the spread. College football is way too complicated for NFL coaches. It has nothing to do with the fact that a spread offense destroys really slow linebackers like the ones we had, or anything.
 
#86
#86
I misunderstood you. I thought you said - Not to mention, Lane doesn't even get a job without Monte.

I think Kiffin probably sold the package deal to Hamilton.

Also, when all of the Fulmer ousting began, Lane was mentioned as the TOP name available for any head opening around. I can't stand the POS, but my how people forget.
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#87
#87
I like the hell out of Monte, but I dont know if it was our players, or lack thereof, but his defense didnt impress me as much as I thought it would.

Despite holding Alabama ( Nat Champs ) out of the endzone , holding Fl to there lowest output all season , blowing up GA and USC Jr ? Or ae you judging on the Ole Miss game when they had no starting linebackers , injuries across the defensive line , and one starting safety ?

The defense was great ...offensiv consistncy was the issue . Can only imagine how it would have been in a couple of seasons.
 
#88
#88
I must not have been paying attention.

When the 2009 Defense held the Heisman trophy winner and National Champion to no touchdowns, and did the same thing to the Georgia offense I must have been day dreaming.

You mean the "battle of conservative gameplans"? Let's be honest, they were playing keep-away.
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#89
#89
You mean the "battle of conservative gameplans"? Let's be honest, they were playing keep-away.
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Everyone says this because Meyer did, but Florida 1. had the ball more, 2. ran the ball a higher percentage of the time, and 3. threw even shorter passes than we did.
 
#90
#90
A $4million desperation hire?

Doubtful.
They could have had him for the exact same salary plus an order off the dollar menu. They got Kiffin because they wanted him.

:lolabove:

Not only did he need a Daddy Clause to get hired with us, USC tried everybody else on the Left Coast first, and then turned to the one guy who would take the job when they got the Death Penalty.

Let's see how long they want Lane when they get off probation.

I haven't done the numbers, but he probably took a real pay cut with PoL in SoCal.
 
#91
#91
Yeah, he just couldn't figure out the spread. College football is way too complicated for NFL coaches. It has nothing to do with the fact that a spread offense destroys really slow linebackers like the ones we had, or anything.

MISCONCEPTION

He did fine against the spread ...it was offensive inconsistancy that did us in .

The defense held UF to its lowest output all season , despite the defense on the field the whole game
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absorbed 84 snaps against Auburn ...gave up very few points compared . Again offense left them on the field for nearly 2 football games in this one game
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Ole Miss - injuries across the D front , 1 injuied starting linebacker in the game , 1 starting safety. Offense could not hold the ball ..again D on the field the whole game.
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If the offense was consistant and control the clock somewhat ...the defenses would have appeared excellent . The defense was thin in depth ...being on the field as long as they were against an up tempo offense was not a matter of not understanding the spread ..it was a matter of getting worn down and having no way to fix it . 84 snaps , 70 snaps would wear a deep unit out
 
#92
#92
MISCONCEPTION

He did fine against the spread ...it was offensive inconsistancy that did us in .

The defense held UF to its lowest output all season , despite the defense on the field the whole game
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absorbed 84 snaps against Auburn ...gave up very few points compared . Again offense left them on the field for nearly 2 football games in this one game
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Ole Miss - injuries across the D front , 1 injuied starting linebacker in the game , 1 starting safety. Offense could not hold the ball ..again D on the field the whole game.
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If the offense was consistant and control the clock somewhat ...the defenses would have appeared excellent . The defense was thin in depth ...being on the field as long as they were against an up tempo offense was not a matter of not understanding the spread ..it was a matter of getting worn down and having no way to fix it . 84 snaps , 70 snaps would wear a deep unit out

Seems like someone missed the sarcasm...but the Ole Miss game didn't have much to do with our offense. When you let someone run for like 281 yards and 4 TDs (or something) you're going to lose.
 
#93
#93
I dont get all the defenders of Kiffin. It's not the act of him leaving, it's the way he did it. He was disrespectful to our university which gave him his first big break, did a 20 second goodbye speech and encouraged our current recruits not to enroll in classes so they could go to USC. If you don't understand that then I can't help you.

I still don't get all the hate on here for Kiffin. He was just being loyal to his dream school. I would do the same thing if I were a coach in his situation.

Look at it this way, if you were a coach at a big Pac-10 school, say USC, Oregon or UCLA and the coach at UT left and UT wanted you to coach there wouldn't you leave in a heartbeat?

And would you hesitate to try your damnest to get the best players in the nation to go to UT even if you recruited them to the Pac-10 school that you were at?

He was just being 100 percent loyal to his school. I really don't see what the big deal is. Like I said, I wouldn't hesitate to sway those players to UT if I were a coach at another school and had previously recruited them there because UT would be all that I really cared about.

I can sympathize with Kiffin, because of in state tuition reasons, I had to go to Auburn despite watching and attending UT football games my entire life. I like Auburn as well, at the same time, I wish their best players would all decommit and switch to UT.

That is just how it is when your heart is in one place. No one at Auburn understood my feelings and labeled me a traitor. I did what was applicable for me though education wise, out of state tuition was way more than I could afford.....but that didn't mean I would ever turn my back on UT.

My choices were some small college in the state of Georgia, Auburn or UGA. All be damned if I were to ever attend UGA. I lived in Georgia (one of 7 counties accepted for the then waiver of out of state tuition waver at Auburn) and chose to at least attend an SEC school with a big time football culture and atmosphere. But going to Georgia would have been torture. I hate them with a passion.

Also, let's not forget, Kiffin brought us Bray who will prove to be our best QB since Manning IMO.
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#94
#94
Everyone says "it's how he did it" but people were burning couches before the press conference even started.
 
#95
#95
Everyone says "it's how he did it" but people were burning couches before the press conference even started.

Exactly. People just use that as an excuse. In reality, it wouldn't have mattered how he left; the response was always going to be the same.
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#96
Everyone says this because Meyer did, but Florida 1. had the ball more, 2. ran the ball a higher percentage of the time, and 3. threw even shorter passes than we did.

I was talking about 2009 Bama. I thought that's what he was talking about. If not, disregard my comment.
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#97
#97
And UT wasn't the only school willing to give Kiffin his first "big break." Either the Clemson or Washington jobs could have been his had he not wanted the UT job or had UT not wanted him.
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#99
#99
And UT wasn't the only school willing to give Kiffin his first "big break." Either the Clemson or Washington jobs could have been his had he not wanted the UT job or had UT not wanted him.
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Not to mention he coached in the NFL. To say we gave him his only chance is asinine.
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I dont get all the defenders of Kiffin. It's not the act of him leaving, it's the way he did it. He was disrespectful to our university which gave him his first big break, did a 20 second goodbye speech and encouraged our current recruits not to enroll in classes so they could go to USC. If you don't understand that then I can't help you.


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I call BS on this. Sour grapes, man, business is sometimes cruel. It was a business and life long decision. Not saying I like the way it went down, but I would do the same in his shoes and not feel the least bit guilty. He had the gig from USC secured, business is business. What would have been the difference if he had waited to give a long emotional sounding speech? He was only here for a year. Where I am from one measly year does not breed loyalty, just a change of jobs with a new contract.
 

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