Monday Press conference (merged)

#176
#176
I wasn't overly impressed with the conference. I hope its just me, but it sure sounds like coach is not gonna be changing the offensive schemes much at all. We 're just gonna keep rolling with what we have until the experience factor kicks in.

We really need some 2 back sets, more QB options and most importantly the WR's have got to get more separation somehow (more short slants, etc). If adjustments don't get kicked in, we are looking at a 4-8 record. I am hoping that somewhere down the road, it clicks with our linemen and they drastically improve. I am still expecting a bowl.
 
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#177
#177
Got some serious coaching talent in here.....
 
#179
#179
I just watched it. One of the things I learned from the PC is that Butch is one hard headed individual. It will either be the reason he succeeds or fails at UT (IMO). The guy just refuses to accept that his OC made some pretty awful calls in "critical situations" (as hes says). Also, I refuse to believe that every team runs the exact same plays all of the time. Butch stated that football comes down to one on one match-ups. I'm not buying into that at all. If one on one match-ups are all football comes down to then how did Boise State beat all of those much stronger teams for an extended period of time? Are you telling me it is because they won all of their one on one match-ups? That is ridiculous. It was because their coaches put players in the best position to succeed on the field. Ole Miss won all of their one on one match-ups against alabama on Saturday? I highly doubt that. Lets face it, the reason we lost Saturday was because of our OC. The players on our team were as good as the opposing team and they played with extreme effort for 4 quarters. I feel for them honestly because they weren't given a chance to succeed. I don't think Butch is the problem at all. The guy is a fantastic HC. However, his OC is straight up killing his team on the field. Am I completely off the reservation here or does anyone see my point? End of rant....

GO VOLS
 
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#180
#180
Dude the OC can't block. The problems are way deeper than play calling. Yes it's questionable at times. I agree there. You can't run a qb read option when there's really no option, therefore defenses aren't kept honest. Worley isn't going to keep the ball. And the line can't make holes for our backs. It's lose/ lose and until we fix that we are doomed.
 
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#181
#181
How about instead of making a blanket statement of our OC got us beat you give us some examples of what he did to get us beat so it can be debated.

Here I will give you a few:

He told Worley to force not one but two throws into double coverage on first down.

He told Worley when you drop back and no one is open hold the ball until something opens up or take a sack.

I just know this is what is being taught all week at practice and all of us on VN are smarter than both Jones and Bajakian and we are the only ones who see it.
 
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#182
#182
To some extent you can put players in better situations but I agree with butch on this one. Florida was in press man most of the game Saturday and their dbs constantly beat our wrs. At that point the play calling doesn't matter because the players aren't getting open. Worley has to hold the ball the oline gets abused by much more talented players and you see the results. Yes everyone does use the same plays also. They may set it up differently but the same plays are in everyone's playbook.
 
#184
#184
No I don't see your point at all. You can call whatever play you want I guarantee you if you don't beat somebody then that play will not be very successful. These plays aren't ran against nobody. Josh Malone had several opportunities to be successful and dropped a lot of them. People we need to understand sometimes it's just a bad day.
 
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#186
#186
So Butch goes 2-10 against Power 5 teams, and yet enjoys an incredible honeymoon and fan support. Today he finally gets a few questions and he acts like a jerk? Yeah, that's gonna work wonders for him.
 
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#187
#187
volfan411 said:
How about instead of making a blanket statement of our OC got us beat you give us some examples of what he did to get us beat so it can be debated.

Here I will give you a few:

He told Worley to force not one but two throws into double coverage on first down.

He told Worley when you drop back and no one is open hold the ball until something opens up or take a sack.

I just know this is what is being taught all week at practice and all of us on VN are smarter than both Jones and Bajakian and we are the only ones who see it.
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Id be curious to hear some opinions on the Worley sack/fumble play call at the end of the 3rd quarter.
 
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#188
#188
thetennlegend said:
To some extent you can put players in better situations but I agree with butch on this one. Florida was in press man most of the game Saturday and their dbs constantly beat our wrs. At that point the play calling doesn't matter because the players aren't getting open. Worley has to hold the ball the oline gets abused by much more talented players and you see the results. Yes everyone does use the same plays also. They may set it up differently but the same plays are in everyone's playbook.
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Yes exactly every offense runs the same plays out of multiple sets it just looks better when they are working. :)
 
#189
#189
volbeast33 said:
He has clariefied it over and over again....Our fans insist on calling it a read option. He stated it was a read-option or just a running play based on how they called the blocking schemes. He stated the read-option has been run very few times this season. I would be pissed to still being asked about it as well.
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We're confused because we see Worley hand the ball off and then he acts as if he's keeping. Jones just told everyone that Worley is never going to run because we're not running the read option, even though that is exactly what it looks like.
 
#190
#190
My problem is in the big east you might center the ball and say 1 Mississippi and hand the ball off but in the sec if you dont hit the hole quick there is to much speed for that slow developing what ever he call it today running attack
 
#191
#191
millst987 said:
I just watched it. One of the things I learned from the PC is that Butch is one hard headed individual. It will either be the reason he succeeds or fails at UT (IMO). The guy just refuses to accept that his OC made some pretty awful calls in "critical situations" (as hes says). Also, I refuse to believe that every team runs the exact same plays all of the time. Butch stated that football comes down to one on one match-ups. I'm not buying into that at all. If one on one match-ups are all football comes down to then how did Boise State beat all of those much stronger teams for an extended period of time? Are you telling me it is because they won all of their one on one match-ups? That is ridiculous. It was because their coaches put players in the best position to succeed on the field. Ole Miss won all of their one on one match-ups against alabama on Saturday? I highly doubt that. Lets face it, the reason we lost Saturday was because of our OC. The players on our team were as good as the opposing team and they played with extreme effort for 4 quarters. I feel for them honestly because they weren't given a chance to succeed. I don't think Butch is the problem at all. The guy is a fantastic HC. However, his OC is straight up killing his team on the field. Am I completely off the reservation here or does anyone see my point? End of rant....

GO VOLS
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This. I totally agree and almost made the same exact post but I am too mentally exhausted over this.
 
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#192
#192
BeecherVol said:
Id be curious to hear some opinions on the Worley sack/fumble play call at the end of the 3rd quarter.
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It would be interesting to hear how in the world Worley did not see the defender coming and throw the ball away. That one play changed the entire outcome of the game and it never should have happened. I do not remember the distance but believe it was second down when it happened.
 
#193
#193
millst987 said:
I just watched it. One of the things I learned from the PC is that Butch is one hard headed individual. It will either be the reason he succeeds or fails at UT (IMO). The guy just refuses to accept that his OC made some pretty awful calls in "critical situations" (as hes says). Also, I refuse to believe that every team runs the exact same plays all of the time. Butch stated that football comes down to one on one match-ups. I'm not buying into that at all. If one on one match-ups are all football comes down to then how did Boise State beat all of those much stronger teams for an extended period of time? Are you telling me it is because they won all of their one on one match-ups? That is ridiculous. It was because their coaches put players in the best position to succeed on the field. Ole Miss won all of their one on one match-ups against alabama on Saturday? I highly doubt that. Lets face it, the reason we lost Saturday was because of our OC. The players on our team were as good as the opposing team and they played with extreme effort for 4 quarters. I feel for them honestly because they weren't given a chance to succeed. I don't think Butch is the problem at all. The guy is a fantastic HC. However, his OC is straight up killing his team on the field. Am I completely off the reservation here or does anyone see my point? End of rant....

GO VOLS
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if thats what you got out of the pc then you already had an issue and was looking for a reason to gripe.
 
#194
#194
"We lost because my OC sucks ass and can't call a damn play to save his life. This is all his fault and everybody needs to blame him. He is the worst OC in the country! Hey Bajakian, you're fired! "

That is what everybody on here wants to hear right now. Yet, if that's what he said the same people would ***** about CBJ not taking the blame and throwing others under the bus.

Do you all honestly expect him to bash his players and staff in front of everybody? Do you really think he's not chewing their asses behind the scenes?

I'm amazed at some fans on here who can't take a deep breathe and think a little, just a tiny little bit, before they post.
 
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#195
#195
Pizza crust! We knew the line was awful prior to the season begining. We will win 6 games and get a bowl bid. Calm your tits folks. We will beat SC Vandy Utc and Ky. Mark my words. We might suprise mizzu.the same team lost by three to UGA. Kept it closer than most thought against OU. FAITH ! In the team and BuTch. GBO
 
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#196
#196
Vato said:
Pizza crust! We knew the line was awful prior to the season begining. We will win 6 games and get a bowl bid. Calm your tits folks. We will beat SC Vandy Utc and Ky. Mark my words. We might suprise mizzu.the same team lost by three to UGA. Kept it closer than most thought against OU. FAITH ! In the team and BuTch. GBO
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Be careful with that language you may get a letter from the chancellor.
 
#197
#197
Okay, what about the play call at the beginning of the second half after we intercept and have the ball on the 25 yd. line? Tell me what you do here? Do you call a pass play with a crossing pattern in the freaking checkerboards on first down or try to put your team in a situation that will at minimum allow us to kick a field goal to end the game?
 
#198
#198
Give Him 6 said:
No I don't see your point at all. You can call whatever play you want I guarantee you if you don't beat somebody then that play will not be very successful. These plays aren't ran against nobody. Josh Malone had several opportunities to be successful and dropped a lot of them. People we need to understand sometimes it's just a bad day.
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Lot of "bad days" in the past few years of TN football. In fact, unless the opposing team is DRAMATICALLY less talented than Tennessee, it's a "bad day" everytime minus SC of last year.

I'm done with "bad days". Start finding out how to win.
 
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#199
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volfan411 said:
It would be interesting to hear how in the world Worley did not see the defender coming and throw the ball away. That one play changed the entire outcome of the game and it never should have happened. I do not remember the distance but believe it was second down when it happened.
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well heck our 0-line is not very good so let's go long ..,.yeah its all on Worley. Good grief why are they letting him call his own plays?
 
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#200
#200
VolFootballlover said:
My problem is in the big east you might center the ball and say 1 Mississippi and hand the ball off but in the sec if you dont hit the hole quick there is to much speed for that slow developing what ever he call it today running attack
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Amen, allowing our linemen to have to block longer. We see the end results of that.
 
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