Mike Mayock likes Alvin Kamara.....

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Dobbs 4 Heisman said:
The best NFL players don't typically have the best college careers.

Like Vince Young, that game winning drive will be the high point of Deshaun Watson's football career. I like the kid but he's a magnet for big hits. I doubt he is very durable in the NFL. And the fact his college career was so overwhelmingly brillant (like Young, Tebow, and many others), its highly likely his NFL career will be a disappointment.

Dobbs on the other hand will enjoy a pro career like Randall Cunningham. He'll make several pro bowls. Might win an MVP or two. And he'll be the face of the NFL for a few years like Randall Cunningham in his prime.
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No, just no.
 
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volnbama_ said:
wtf. The GM that drafts Dobbs in the top 10 is out of a job within a year
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Dobbs will probably go in the 2nd-3rd round but he will have top 10 value in this draft when his career ultimately concludes.

Remember that is MY top 10 based on guys with the most talent. I'm not projecting a mock draft or saying these 10 names will be taken in the top 10.

I expect most of my top 10 to not be picked anywhere close to the top 10 when the draft officially happens.
 
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Dobbs 4 Heisman said:
Dobbs will probably go in the 2nd-3rd round but he will have top 10 value in this draft when his career ultimately concludes.

Remember that is MY top 10 based on guys with the most talent. I'm not projecting a mock draft or saying these 10 names will be taken in the top 10.

I expect most of my top 10 to not be picked anywhere close to the top 10 when the draft officially happens.
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Dobbs might go in 4th due to week QB class.
 
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VOL 4 Life 83 said:
WTF? Myles Garrett 1st overall? Did you not see that he collected all his stats from weak competition?? He SUCKED in SEC play. What makes you think he will do better in the NFL where everyone is better?

You've said some doozies in here, but this absolutely takes the cake :loco:
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Myles Garrett has a freakish combination of size, speed, and athleticism we haven't seen from the DE position since Bruce Smith. He's also incredible at converting speed to power. I've seen him collect as many sacks from bull rushes as I've seen from him running around the edge.

He's far and away the best prospect in this class with the highest ceiling and lowest floor.

Surefire future HOF talent.
 
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VOL 4 Life 83 said:
Only because media pundits and D4H are more obsessed with his physique than his on-the-field performance...


If Derek Barnett looked like Myles Garrett he would go 1st overall. Just check the damn stats, DB destroyed MG over his college career, all vs. stronger competition

Myles Garrett College Stats | College Football at Sports-Reference.com

Derek Barnett College Stats | College Football at Sports-Reference.com
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Well of course. Myles Garrett is one of the freakiest athletes to enter the league in decades. So obviously if Barnett had his size, speed, and athleticism he would also go first overall.

And FYI how you look matters. There is a reason almost all elite NFL pass rushers are in phenomenal shape like Garrett rather than being out of shape like Barnett. That's typically a sign of poor athleticism.
 
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Dobbs 4 Heisman said:
Well of course. Myles Garrett is one of the freakiest athletes to enter the league in decades. So obviously if Barnett had his size, speed, and athleticism he would also go first overall.

And FYI how you look matters. There is a reason almost all elite NFL pass rushers are in phenomenal shape like Garrett rather than being out of shape like Barnett. That's typically a sign of poor athleticism.
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Lol, guess the numbers don't matter. Or the simple fact that Myles Garrett just doesn't seem to WANT IT like Barnett.

Oh and by the way, pretty sure DB is far and away a better athlete than YOU give him credit for
 
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Dobbs 4 Heisman said:
He should be the first RB taken (yes over Fournette). He's the next Marshall Faulk.

It'll be crazy to look back in 5 years and see how many NFL superstars we had on this team and how we couldn't even win 10 games. Team 120 will have featured 2 Future HOFers (Alvin Kamara and Cam Sutton). Another 2 pro-bowl level talents (Josh Dobbs and Jalen Hurd). And a solid 10 year starter like Derek Barnett.
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Dalvin Cook?
 
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Dobbs 4 Heisman said:
The best NFL players don't typically have the best college careers.
Like Vince Young, that game winning drive will be the high point of Deshaun Watson's football career. I like the kid but he's a magnet for big hits. I doubt he is very durable in the NFL. And the fact his college career was so overwhelmingly brillant (like Young, Tebow, and many others), its highly likely his NFL career will be a disappointment.
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This is hilariously absurd. You actually believe there is a negative correlation between college and NFL success?

Try this; take 10 exceptional college players (remember, it's definitional that's a small pool) and 500 really good college players. (If they aren't at least good they aren't getting drafted anyway)

So, even if one is an absolute dolt, what would the sheer numbers tell you is the likelihood of overall representation of NFL success? Seriously man.
 
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Dobbs 4 Heisman said:
He should be the first RB taken (yes over Fournette). He's the next Marshall Faulk.

It'll be crazy to look back in 5 years and see how many NFL superstars we had on this team and how we couldn't even win 10 games. Team 120 will have featured 2 Future HOFers (Alvin Kamara and Cam Sutton). Another 2 pro-bowl level talents (Josh Dobbs and Jalen Hurd). And a solid 10 year starter like Derek Barnett.
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The Fournette's comes along once in 10 years he is the next AP AK will be a third or 4th round pick he can't run between the tackles not big or strong enough. Josh Dobbs:eek:lol::eek:lol::eek:lol::eek:lol::eek:lol::eek:lol::eek:lol::eek:lol::eek:lol: We are talking about the NFL there wont be no Vandy's Kentucky's or MIZZ to pads the stats he cant throw the ball deep thats why we couldn't beat a elite defense he was 1 play last year against the dawgs from being bench the back up was warming up.
 
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There's a reason Kamara, Sutton, and Mabin didn't leave as juniors, and it wasn't their love of UT. Tenn basically had 2 players make all SEC this year. A good representation of talent. Tenn is lucky to be 9 - 4
 
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KBVol said:
AK has phenomenal hands imo. A drop or 2 in one meaningless bowl game doesn't define his pass receiving skills imo. 74 catches in 2 seasons as a part time player, sometimes maybe only getting 20% of offensive snaps, in a run-heavy offense, further highlights this.
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He has average hands, he dropped more than just in the bowl game. He is still has great vision, power and speed but I see him as a APB and to be elite he needs to have surer hands, thats all.
 
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VOL 4 Life 83 said:
No, just no.
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I don't like how gm's black balled Vince Young out the league..That man was a winner in the NFL 38-17 RECORD and couldn't keep a job..TEBOW a winner qb but couldn't get a chance..all because they don't fit the mold of what they call a nfl..they did the same thing to dak Prescott..smh give Dobbs a shot sometimes the right system is all he needs...just imagine kamara playing for the saints he would ball with that offense with drew brees
 
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VOL 4 Life 83 said:
Lol, guess the numbers don't matter. Or the simple fact that Myles Garrett just doesn't seem to WANT IT like Barnett.

Oh and by the way, pretty sure DB is far and away a better athlete than YOU give him credit for
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Don't worry guys everything this guy predicts the opposite happens. Pretty sure he hyped up Marquez North who isn't even in a roster I believe and said Bosa will be a bust and Bosa recorded 10 sacks his rookie season although he missed 4 games.
 
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VOL 4 Life 83 said:
Lol, guess the numbers don't matter. Or the simple fact that Myles Garrett just doesn't seem to WANT IT like Barnett.

Oh and by the way, pretty sure DB is far and away a better athlete than YOU give him credit for
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College numbers don't matter to me when projecting players to the NFL. Its about studying the film and seeing if the prospect has high levels physical attributes and skills that are transferable to the NFL.

If college numbers were actually predictive of NFL success, it would make this draft thing alot easier.
 
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Dobbs 4 Heisman said:
Barnett is nowhere close to a top 10 pick. I have Fournette just outside my top 10 right now.

Here is my early list of top 10 prospects for the 2017 draft:

1. DE Myles Garrett (Texas A&M)
2. WR Corey Davis (Western Michigan)
3. CB Cam Sutton (Tennessee)
4. DE Solomon Thomas (Stanford)
5. RB Alvin Kamara (Tennessee)
6. QB Josh Dobbs (Tennessee)
7. TE Evan Engram (Ole Miss)
8. DE Charles Harris (Missouri)
9. CB Jourdan Lewis (Michigan)
10. CB Marlon Humphrey (Alabama)
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Quickly, someone get this to press!LOL!
 
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Dobbs 4 Heisman said:
When I said Barnett is nowhere near a top 10 pick, I meant in terms of value.

I fully expect the stupid personnel in NFL front offices to overdraft him because of his college production. He'll probably be taken by a team like the Saints in the top 10.
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Breaux.......you think way too highly of yourself. There is a reason that you are a self professed expert on everything football whamming away at a keyboard, while the real experts are making a living doing it.
 
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Dobbs 4 Heisman said:
Well of course. Myles Garrett is one of the freakiest athletes to enter the league in decades. So obviously if Barnett had his size, speed, and athleticism he would also go first overall.

And FYI how you look matters. There is a reason almost all elite NFL pass rushers are in phenomenal shape like Garrett rather than being out of shape like Barnett. That's typically a sign of poor athleticism.
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Out of shape! Bahahaha!
 
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#94
Dobbs 4 Heisman said:
College numbers don't matter to me when projecting players to the NFL. Its about studying the film and seeing if the prospect has high levels physical attributes and skills that are transferable to the NFL.

If college numbers were actually predictive of NFL success, it would make this draft thing alot easier.
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You watching SportsCenter highlights on the nightly after your shift isn't the same as "watching film"
 
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#95
If Kamara goes on to do special things in the league, then it will be a massive indictment of Jones' persistent feeding of the lumbering ox that is Jalen Hurd.
 
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D4H is clown shoes when it comes to predictions. He'll drop in immediately to let you know when he hits on one out of 10, but the other nine times, he's either quiet as the grave or creates excuse after excuse for why his prediction was wrong.

His opinion and prediction rate aren't worth a hill of beans. Biggest homer on this site and then turned on Butch, Dobbs, and Hurd after Ohio game. Now Dobbs and Hurd are world beaters again, and Butch held them back. When they flop in the pros, it will be Butch's fault. He's already got his excuse locked and loaded, so he can't be wrong.
 
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bamawriter said:
If Kamara goes on to do special things in the league, then it will be a massive indictment of Jones' persistent feeding of the lumbering ox that is Jalen Hurd.
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Butch Jones is already a confirmed moron when it comes to coaching.

People will be wondering for years how he won less than 10 games with the players Tennessee had in 2016.

People won't believe that a college team had Josh Dobbs, Alvin Kamara, Cam Sutton, and Jalen Hurd on the same team and couldn't win more than 9 games. That's like having Randall Cunningham, Marshall Faulk, Darrelle Revis, and Eddie George on the same college team and not winning more than 9 games.

It'll be an embrassing indictment of his abilities as a coach.
 
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