Mike Gundy is getting what he deserves

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I think he's out after this year, even if they wind up having a decent season. For a long time, he was one of the 2 or 3 most untouchable coaches in CFB. He has said some absolutely ridiculous things over the years with seemingly no repercussions until this season; he took a pay cut, reduced buyout, and they removed the rolling 5-year term for a 4-year term that doesn't roll over.

He's a case in point that barring some kind of Penn St or Baylor-type scandal, it doesn't really matter what you do as long as you win. The last couple years he hasn't been winning, so now all of a sudden the dumb stuff that comes out of his mouth on a regular basis matters.
 
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I have no issues with him leveraging UT to get big raises. I do find it ironic that he then publicly laments his school not having the money to compete in NIL/Revenue sharing.
 
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Orange-U-Glad said:
Gundy played Tennessee and other schools to fatten his pocketbook and stay at Ok State. His Cowboys just got lassoed at Oregon. I suspect he won’t be there much longer. Can’t believe we went after him, not once but twice. Tells you everything you need to know about how low this program sunk.
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I don't think this is a fair assessment to make honestly. When we went after him both times, Okie State was a solid program. He did what every other coach in the country does when a job comes calling that he doesn't really want to leave for.
 
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Mike Gundy grew up in Oklahoma and got to coach at his alma mater for many years while raising 3 kids. At a quick glance, he has made somewhere between 50-75 million dollars in that time. Seems like a pretty nice life to coach football. Not everyone defines happiness in the same way. Maybe he has no interest in coaching other schools or moving his family around the country etc...?
 
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If Gundy using interest from us for raises makes you roll your eyes, you really should direct your eye rolling at nobody other than our own administration.

Gundy is as Oklahoma St as it gets - he's from OKC, played quarterback there in the late 80s, then coached there until 1995 before coming back in 2001 to be the OC. He's spent the vast majority of his adult life there in some capacity. He also had the program rolling both times we talked to him about coming here. It was obvious to everybody, except our own admin, that he would never leave there and talking to him about the job here was a waste of time.
 
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05_never_again said:
If Gundy using interest from us for raises makes you roll your eyes, you really should direct your eye rolling at nobody other than our own administration.

Gundy is as Oklahoma St as it gets - he's from OKC, played quarterback there in the late 80s, then coached there until 1995 before coming back in 2001 to be the OC. He's spent the vast majority of his adult life there in some capacity. He also had the program rolling both times we talked to him about coming here. It was obvious to everybody, except our own admin, that he would never leave there and talking to him about the job here was a waste of time.
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Make him the AD once he retires.
 
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adam.vol said:
I know Methuselah would side with you, but my word.. Try working manual labor around anyone over 50 and you’ll hear them complain about being old.
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Don't complain too much. You are also on that same road. It's just a matter of time...and the older you get, the faster it seems to go.
 
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Titans4Vols said:
So you wouldn't do that with a competing employer if it got you a significant raise from your current job?
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It’s been my experience that in most cases if you do that to your current employer and you stay with them, a certain level of trust is gone and they won’t be so quick to forgive any sort of drop in performance. But that’s in a normal business and not in college football coaching. We’ve all seen crazy things happen in that business.
 
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Delmar said:
It’s been my experience that in most cases if you do that to your current employer and you stay with them, a certain level of trust is gone and they won’t be so quick to forgive any sort of drop in performance. But that’s in a normal business and not in college football coaching. We’ve all seen crazy things happen in that business.
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It depends on the level of the job. If you're an intern or entry-level employee who has been there for a year and try that, you'll get told to take a hike. If you've got some experience under your belt, or you're in a managerial/executive role, that kind of stuff happens every day in corporate America.
 
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05_never_again said:
It depends on the level of the job. If you're an intern or entry-level employee who has been there for a year and try that, you'll get told to take a hike. If you've got some experience under your belt, or you're in a managerial/executive role, that kind of stuff happens every day in corporate America.
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To some maybe. I managed a pretty good size sales force for most of my career. If a salesman of mine had done that to me, it would have been a judgement call to keep him. And if I did, you can bet he’d have been on double secret probation. Just the way I did it. To each his own.
 
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Titans4Vols said:
People should root for his downfall because he leveraged other employer's interest to get a raise from his current employer?

You people are bizarre.
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Exactly..Some of our fans are some kind of special.Knowing damn well they would do the exact same thing. But, since it's something that happened to us and not for us, they deserve the worst. Hypocrisy at it's finest!
 
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#48
After the renegotiated contract he took last year with a $1 million pay cut, reduction in buyout if fired and the removal of his automatic annual contract extension, its pretty obvious he's a dead man walking.

OSU is likely looking for another coach already and going to move on either at the end of this season or next.
 
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dobre_shunka said:
After the renegotiated contract he took last year with a $1 million pay cut, reduction in buyout if fired and the removal of his automatic annual contract extension, its pretty obvious he's a dead man walking.

OSU is likely looking for another coach already and going to move on either at the end of this season or next.
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Yep. I think they're ready to move on even if he ends up having a good season this year. That contract is the best evidence of that. It's kind of wild that Gundy agreed to it - he must really want to keep coaching there. It would have been easy for him to say "No, we have an agreement currently. Pay me that salary or just fire me and buy me out." He's said lots of dumb stuff for a long time but the double-digit win seasons are getting a little fewer and farther between.

I suspect the OSU admin thinks Gundy might not be a great coach for the NIL era.
 
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