Might be time to adjust...

#27
#27
Agree.

Kids have to understand that their decesion impacts other kids dreams too. We had a couple of lb's that we passed on that would have loved to have been Vols.


That's not how recruiting works. You don't focus on what other recruit might want your spot. It's all about leverage.
 
#29
#29
... that "take your trips and be sure" philosophy.

I am all for it up through say... 3 weeks before NSD. IMHO, UT should clamp down on it within the last 3 weeks. Perhaps even establish a policy of pulling offers if they do it.

The dirtiest recruiting is always going to occur at crunch time. If a kid is going elsewhere then that decision should not be based on a trip the weekend before NSD. UT does not get a chance to react.

I said the same thing earlier today. If you arent sure a month before NSD we are moving on.
 
#30
#30
This isn't N. Korea.

If he were to try and dictate who can visit where, recruits won't commit early. It's not a good idea.
That's true, but I think CDD may have to just tell them that a visit on the last week before NSD will be viewed as if the recruit is looking to get out of their commitment.

You don't go on dates a week before your wedding...just to make sure. I thought something was fishy about Peters taking a last minute visit after being committed for several months. Same with Santos. The staff needs to move on those spots as if they are now uncommitted
 
#31
#31
I said the same thing earlier today. If you arent sure a month before NSD we are moving on.


So we would have pulled schollies from Bourque, McNeil and another one or two?

You guys don't understand that we aren't in position to pull schollies from good players because they want to visit another team before signing day.
 
#32
#32
So we would have pulled schollies from Bourque, McNeil and another one or two?

You guys don't understand that we aren't in position to pull schollies from good players because they want to visit another team before signing day.
Borque was a late addition. Santos and Peters were with us from July. Totally different circumstances.
 
#33
#33
The only way to avoid losing recruits on NSD now is to just win. That is the ONLY thing coaches can say against Dooley. He's a high character guy, and every thing you want to represent you're program. All he's got to do now is show some progress. I personally think he is going to show that progress in a BIG way in 2012. Starting off with NCST. GO VOLS!

Winning cures everything.:)

Highly ranked recruits will come to you.:thumbsup:
 
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#35
#35
You are correct. And when you have to go at least 2-3 hours away and pull recruits from their home states, it's a challenge.

Most UT fans don't have the objectivity to understand the challenges UT has in recruiting vs other SEC schools.

This isn't the 80's/90's anymore. Everyone has big stadiums, coaching is better in the league, and facilities are better in many places.

DD trying not to allow someone to take a visit is a bad idea. Can you imagine him trying to tell Santos he would pull his offer if he drove down the road to Austin for the weekend?

He might sign with Texas. Oh wait he did!! Nothing good ever comes out of a last weekend visit for the school a recruit is already committed to.
 
#36
#36
He might sign with Texas. Oh wait he did!! Nothing good ever comes out of a last weekend visit for the school a recruit is already committed to.

he only visited because they offered the scholarship late. Pulling them for simply visiting other schools isn't something UT can afford to try right now
 
#37
#37
i hate to say this because it's going to tick everyone off.

but, here it goes.

tennessee and derek dooley do not carry the kind of clout to make demands of anyone. when tennessee is the place where everyone wants to go, then they can take that kind of stance with recruits.

but, not now.

My definition of an oxymoron when gator fans make sense. Please stop.
 
#39
#39
i hate to say this because it's going to tick everyone off.

but, here it goes.

tennessee and derek dooley do not carry the kind of clout to make demands of anyone. when tennessee is the place where everyone wants to go, then they can take that kind of stance with recruits.

but, not now.

It may tick people off, but right now you are right. It simply wouldn't end well for us if we tried it.
 
#40
#40
Why don't we just have them all visit k-town the weekend before nsd? I'm ok with 25-30 guys visiting that weekend :)
 
#41
#41
It may tick people off, but right now you are right. It simply wouldn't end well for us if we tried it.
It would not have made a difference with Santos but Peters may be a different story.
 
#42
#42
With about a week to go, suddenly it seemed that Dooley started focusing on the 2013 recruits. Why did he do that? It seems to me that you want to finish what you start before we move on to next year.

I am sure there is a good reason that I just don't understand
 
#43
#43
he only visited because they offered the scholarship late. Pulling them for simply visiting other schools isn't something UT can afford to try right now

If you are still looking on the last week-end then you are not really committed. Santos I don't blame I can understand that. Peters on the other hand reacted out of emotion which is why Dooley likes for kids to make sure before they commit to him. Peters I think will regret this decision a year from now when he realizes he was lied to and believed it. Petrino is a snake oil salesman.
 
#44
#44
The only way to avoid losing recruits on NSD now is to just win. That is the ONLY thing coaches can say against Dooley. He's a high character guy, and every thing you want to represent you're program. All he's got to do now is show some progress. I personally think he is going to show that progress in a BIG way in 2012. Starting off with NCST. GO VOLS!

Agree 100%
 
#45
#45
It may tick people off, but right now you are right. It simply wouldn't end well for us if we tried it.

All I am saying is that it didn't end well for us this way either. I'm only suggesting to discourage the last week-end not the whole month. If you want to visit somewhere else on that last week-end you are probably going to end up there any way.
 
#46
#46
sjt - I think you're being results oriented; and you're one of the most logical posters on this board.
 
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