Might as well get it started, vols hire safeties coach

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Why couldn't we get a more experienced safety coach--like someone from Bama, Oregon, LSU, Southern Cal? What's wrong with CDD?
 
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Burger said:
He's saying don't knock the man down for being from a military school. He's giving examples. Guz Malzhan was a high school offensive coordinator. All coaches must get their start somewhere.
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Don't forget Saban coached db's at Kent State for a few years too.
 
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jp1 said:
Don't forget Saban coached db's at Kent State for a few years too.
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There aren't 5 people on this site that could name a db coach 1) for a team outside of the SEC and maybe even for 1 or 2 of the SEC teams or 2) one that hasn't coached at UT before.

Yet, they know this guy won't cut it.

Ridiculous.
 
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bamawriter said:
Convince yourself that coaching defense/DBs in the SoCon is no different than coaching them in the SEC. Convince yourself that recruiting in the SoCon is no different than recruiting in the SEC. Delusion is fun.
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Bear Bryant got his start in coaching at Union University.

Conklin had to have established relationships with plenty of coaches in the Carolinas. He might not have been recruiting the same caliber of players, but those relationships will serve him well here. Pretty sure he'll do fine selling UT on it's own merits.

Did some of you learn nothing from the Hinshaw thread? Wow...
 
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Spartacavolus said:
There aren't 5 people on this site that could name a db coach 1) for a team outside of the SEC and maybe even for 1 or 2 of the SEC teams or 2) one that hasn't coached at UT before.

Yet, they know this guy won't cut it.

Ridiculous.
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*Re dick o las!
 
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WesternKyVol said:
Since it is such an insignificant coaching position then why not bring in someone with significant recruiting experience in the south?

I think the reason for the negative reaction to this hire is pretty obvious.
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Is South Carolina in the south?
 
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TennTom said:
Bear Bryant got his start in coaching at Union University.

Conklin had to have established relationships with plenty of coaches in the Carolinas. He might not have been recruiting the same caliber of players, but those relationships will serve him well here. Pretty sure he'll do fine selling UT on it's own merits.

Did some of you learn nothing from the Hinshaw thread? Wow...
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This.


At least give the guy a chance.
 
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chatt-townVOL said:
Granted its the Citadel but I don't mind taking a DC and making him into a position coach. Don't underestimate a coach knowing a good bit about defense as a whole being assigned to one position. Could be helpful.
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I hope it's nothing like taking a head coach and making him an OC!
 
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UT's#1Fan said:
So this guy is the next Neyland and Coach K. The comparisions from you guys get better and better. bravo.
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They are not comparing them in hindsight

They are comparing them to when they first started

Hell, when Ronald Reagan was born, he hadnt been President yet
 
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Fijivol72 said:
there is a great pee-wee coach in my hometown that is undefeated. Dooley should take a look at him. As everyone has said we need all the help we can get and as most have stated you don't need Div. 1 experience to coach at Tennessee.
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Glad you finally had something good to say about someone. That wasn't so hard now,was it? :good!:
 
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Had anyone heard of Terry Joseph when he came onboard with Dooley? Was TJ known as an awesome recruiter at La Tech? Would he have a job as an asst. coach at Nebraska right now if he hadnt got the chance to come to UT with Dooley 2 years ago? The answer to all these questions imo is NO. The University of Tennessee made TJ a better recruiter, considering what it has to offer to an athlete compared to a WAC school.
 
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Probably some of these hires will be upgraded next year as long as Dooley gets his 8 wins. Some of them Dooley had to stretch on this year because of the predicament TN is in.
 
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zjcvols said:
If you ask the average college football fan/analyst, they'll say UT is a sinking ship.
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Proof please. This is pure opinion on your part since "the average whatever" has not spoken for themselves.

This is the problem with fans talking down the program. It risks becoming a self-fulfilling prophecy if indeed masses of better named coaches were saying "no". Regardless of what they might think of Dooley, who would want to coach where the fans demand success with what Dooley inherited and turn on coaches before giving them an adequate chance to clean up the mess others created?

Of course the negative comments of people on chat boards mean nothing, right? Call in shows mean nothing, right? They don't contribute at ALL to the perception that a coach who should NOT yet be on a hot seat is....

If indeed what some of you suggest is the reality then it has FAR more to do with the irrational expectations than anything concerning Dooley.

And from someone who is closely following it (like me and others on here) it is a sinking ship.
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OK. So you are saying the roster is not significantly better today than it was two years ago, correct? Ultimately much of it comes down to players, right?

This program is slightly more stable since January 14th. Dooley's done a decent job of improving the roster, but after that it's still a mess.
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Unless that "after that" stuff suits up and hits the field... how do you expect it to impact what happens on the field?


FTR ad nauseum- all of this non-sense is simply proving me a prophet. I did not think anyone including Dooley would get the 5 years some suggested to turn the program around even though EVERYONE claimed to realize how bad it was when he arrived. I do not make alot of definitive predictions but I did make this one.... that if he did not win by year three then UT fans would have the pitchforks out. And those in the UT fanbase toting pitchforks are about as ignorant as the typical guy who carries a pitchfork into battle.
 
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sjt18 said:
Proof please. This is pure opinion on your part since "the average whatever" has not spoken for themselves.

This is the problem with fans talking down the program. It risks becoming a self-fulfilling prophecy if indeed masses of better named coaches were saying "no". Regardless of what they might think of Dooley, who would want to coach where the fans demand success with what Dooley inherited and turn on coaches before giving them an adequate chance to clean up the mess others created?

Of course the negative comments of people on chat boards mean nothing, right? Call in shows mean nothing, right? They don't contribute at ALL to the perception that a coach who should NOT yet be on a hot seat is....

If indeed what some of you suggest is the reality then it has FAR more to do with the irrational expectations than anything concerning Dooley.

OK. So you are saying the roster is not significantly better today than it was two years ago, correct? Ultimately much of it comes down to players, right?



Unless that "after that" stuff suits up and hits the field... how do you expect it to impact what happens on the field?


FTR ad nauseum- all of this non-sense is simply proving me a prophet. I did not think anyone including Dooley would get the 5 years some suggested to turn the program around even though EVERYONE claimed to realize how bad it was when he arrived. I do not make alot of definitive predictions but I did make this one.... that if he did not win by year three then UT fans would have the pitchforks out. And those in the UT fanbase toting pitchforks are about as ignorant as the typical guy who carries a pitchfork into battle.
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yes!^^^
 
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+1 sjt18

I don't know if DD is going to make it or not but there is no reason to tear the guy down at every turn.
 
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Mr.Fister said:
wow everybody is impressed with your knowledge with such impressive credentials.
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It is very plain to see that you are another of the village fools who fears those who do know a little about this type of subject and can shed a lot of light on this.
 
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I wait and see on this guy. Tressel wasn't a big-time BCS championship winning coach before he got to Ohio State. He was a winner at Youngstown State but he knew football. That's all that matters in the end. We'll see what he does here at UT.
 
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sjt18 said:
Proof please. This is pure opinion on your part since "the average whatever" has not spoken for themselves.
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its a sinking ship.

Tux said:
It is very plain to see that you are another of the village fools who fears those who do know a little about this type of subject and can shed a lot of light on this.
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hey if you are gonna spew crap on the internet at least get the term right...its "village idiot". change the first letter of your screenname to an "s" and it will more accurately describe your opinion. you havent shed any light on anything including what your background is that makes you feel like your opinion carries any weight at all. i have seen plenty of people get a good laugh out of you so i guess your not a total waste of space.
 
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zjcvols said:
I don't expect 5-7 seasons at UT in a man's second year.

Quite simple really.
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You didn't answer the question.

I don't expect one either, but there are certainly mitigating circumstances. These include, but are not limited to unforeseen injuries that really exposed the lack of depth, hardly any upperclassmen on the team, and on and on.

Do you remember having to play a true freshman at QB? Do you remember Justin Hunter blowing out his knee?

Interestingly enough, those pre season magazines, filled with articles by objective people who are paid to analyze college teams, all predicted a slide last year not due to coaching, but due to that being when the depleted roster would really be felt. Most had us picked to go 6-6, and only a few had us at 7-5 and that was BEFORE the injuries and loss of Janzen Jackson.
 
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Mr.Fister said:
its a sinking ship.


Lots of players, friends and family members that actually have committed to the program in the past couple of years and into next year disagree with your assessment of their program.

18 returning starters = sinking ship?

Awesome.
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