Memphis Players

#77
#77
GLDunlap said:
Last 15 years busts or non contributors from Memphis area: Elix Ellis. Todd Cox, Malcolm Rawls, Jeff Cottam, Brad Cottam, Chris Walker, Greg King, Cam Clear, Tino Thomas, Jason carr, Reuben Mayes, David Ligon, LaRon Harris, Antonio Gaines.

Contributors: Big Dan Williams

Maybe I'm missing someone?
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The Cottam brothers they were not busts. They were solid contributors. Chris Walker was a solid contributor as well. IMO he had NFL potential all the way. Just couldn't get cleared. Injuries really screwed him over. And Ligon was a fine center for us when he was healthy. Also Alex Ellis has been a surprise more than anything. He came here as a walk-on and earned a scholarship, that's not easy to do. He still has one more year with us.

Other guys I see on the list were transfers but still contributors nonetheless - malcolm rawls, cam clear. I am genuinely not surprised by Tino Thomas being a "bust" - I don't ever remember being sold on his skillset.
 
#78
#78
95 Vol Alum said:
I don't understand where you are trying to go with any of this. What is the "it" that starts with HS coaches allegedly selling football recruits? You want HS coaches to be loyal to UT? Hugh Freeze coached locally so it comes as a complete shock to me that he would have inroads with local coaches and players.
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The "it" is coaches who want "something" in return for the services of their players...don't feign indifference on this...
 
#79
#79
titansvolsfaninga said:
What's the point of this post?
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Cletus P Fulmer said:
Does everyting have to have a "point" with you? I mean are you trying to dig into something or do you think it has some sort of "hidden" agenda? My post was to ask how many Memphis players have made any kind of significant contribution on the field in the SEC for UT or the NFL...I mean geez what is your point? Oh and I left off Mark Studaway...he was a teammate of Carlton Peeple's at old Memphis South Side HS. Started for the Vols in the late 70's early 80's...played a few years in the NFL.
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Cletus P Fulmer said:
The "it" is coaches who want "something" in return for the services of their players...don't feign indifference on this...
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So this is what this thread was really about? No feign in my game.....I'm not too worried about quid pro quo in HS/collegiate athletics because it happens everywhere. All the time. Don't pretend Memphis HS coaches have some sort of monopoly on it if that's your point.
 
#80
#80
95 Vol Alum said:
Notables in the NFL currently:

Dan Williams
Dontari Poe
Michael Oher
Greg Hardy
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Don't forget Morgan Cox from Collierville...most uninformed people would scoff at a long snapper being a great contributor...and they would be absolutely ignorant of the importance of a long snapper....Morgan has made a boatload of money in the NFL with snapping...and some thought we were stupid to waste a scholarship on the kid this year as a long snapper...Having competence at that position is crucial....special teams, etc start with him...
 
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#81
#81
gordonr24 said:
You've lost credibility with the mention of the Cottam brothers, David Ligon, and Chris Walker.

Ligon was a starting center at UT. Both of the Cottam brothers contributed to the offense, especially Brad who was one of Ainge's favorite targets. Chris Walker was at UT during the turmoil years including Fulmer's firing, Kiffin's one season, and Dooley's first year. Walker is a VFL, was an outspoken senior leader for the 2010 team, and he had an outstanding senior season despite all of his injuries that he had come down with through the years.
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Jeff Cottam had 7 catches in his career. Brad had 21 in four years (Wolf had more catches as a Freshman then Brads career total). I did however later say Brad Cottam was close and he probably shouldn't be labeled a bust or non contributor. Ligon started 4 games his entire career. I missed on Chris Walker he wasn't great but he was solid and a great person.
 
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#82
#82
Rudy123 said:
The brothers that were tight ends. I believe Cottam were their last names. The oldest played for the K.C. Chiefs for a couple of years. They are from the suburbs of Memphis. shelby county.
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Brad and Jeff Cottam. I went to Jeff Cottams high school (Germantown) Brad went to (ECS)
 
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#83
#83
Cletus P Fulmer said:
We have had success in rural West Tennessee and Jackson...can you say Al Wilson and Kacy Rodgers...so maybe we concentrate on that area west of the Tennessee River.
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Humbolt and Jackson are not Memphis but even at that it was 17-24 years ago.
 
#84
#84
Smallvol#1 said:
One search has Marlon Walls as Memphis...so I posted his name, then saw him cited as Olive Branch Miss, edited him out, went back to check and he is listed as Memphis on several sites. Anyone know for sure? Now I'm curious:)

First edit: Oops, Bad google search:blink: wrong player
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I think it's olive branch, which is essentially a suburb of memphis.
 
#86
#86
Volunteer_Kirby said:
The Cottam brothers they were not busts. They were solid contributors. Chris Walker was a solid contributor as well. IMO he had NFL potential all the way. Just couldn't get cleared. Injuries really screwed him over. And Ligon was a fine center for us when he was healthy. Also Alex Ellis has been a surprise more than anything. He came here as a walk-on and earned a scholarship, that's not easy to do. He still has one more year with us.

Other guys I see on the list were transfers but still contributors nonetheless - malcolm rawls, cam clear. I am genuinely not surprised by Tino Thomas being a "bust" - I don't ever remember being sold on his skillset.
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I think he meant Ellix Wilson, Cedric's younger brother. Alex Ellis is from Delaware.
 
#88
#88
Vol trivia in the off season, no less
who's going to look up all the star players that have played for the Vol's that are from Memphis (west Tn)


not me
 
#92
#92
pa136761 said:
Then what part of the state would you say it is if not the western part?
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I think what he was saying is that folks in West TN don't claim Memphis for a variety of reasons. But geographically, yes it's on the western side of our great state.
 
#93
#93
Ramon Foster, Ripley
Jabari Greer, Jackson
Trey Teague, Jackson

All these guys are from Northwest TN and played, or playing in Foster's case, in the NFL.

Going back a few years, Doug Atkins, Humboldt.
 
#96
#96
mrredskin said:
considering it's the largest city in TN, this would be appropriate.

...plus some other demographics
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If you take an objective look at this list recruit the whole state of Tennessee OTHER than Knoxville high schools! Some of ya' all been lettin' your gator mouths overload your hummingbird axxes about Memphis. I don't care where a kid comes from if he wears orange for the Vols I'm OK with him.
 
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#98
#98
mrredskin said:
considering it's the largest city in TN, this would be appropriate.

...plus some other demographics
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I agree. At the onset, it certainly looked like the OP was suggesting Memphis produced few quality ball players. So few, in fact, he could not recall but a handful of names.

I don't think you can minimize the football talent in Memphis even though I believe it is more of a basketball city. Traditionally, Memphis has the most talent probably based on the two factors you set forth.

On a side note, I'm not from Memphis and it is obvious, despite the excellent talent in Memphis, that Middle Tennessee generates the most quality players.
 
#99
#99
biggestvols said:
I agree. At the onset, it certainly looked like the OP was suggesting Memphis produced few quality ball players. So few, in fact, he could not recall but a handful of names.
I don't think you can minimize the football talent in Memphis even though I believe it is more of a basketball city. Traditionally, Memphis has the most talent probably based on the two factors you set forth.

On a side note, I'm not from Memphis and it is obvious, despite the excellent talent in Memphis, that Middle Tennessee generates the most quality players.
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No sir...that was not my point at all. Memphis has produced a ton of college and NFL players. One only need look at the connection between TSU and Memphis to realize that...my point was to show that very few of those athletes either play for or make a contribution to UT.
 
#100
#100
Jxn Vol said:
I think what he was saying is that folks in West TN don't claim Memphis for a variety of reasons. But geographically, yes it's on the western side of our great state.
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See, this garbage is probably what pisses off and alienates Memphis players. Like it or not, Memphis is a vital part to Tennessee.
 
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