Meach going a mistake?

#27
#27
If someone got Meachem as the 3rd WR it would be a steal. He's at least as good as the other Jr's coming out.
 
#29
#29
It will be good for Meach not to hire an agent and test the draft waters. He will then only return if Phulmer opts for orange pants!
 
#31
#31
sjt18 said:
Johnson and Meachem are both physical but Johnson is ahead. If what I've read is correct, Meachem is a little faster and he looks quicker to me.
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Meachem was nowhere near physical this season. He was manhandled by Arkansas and Penn State. Johnson is world's stronger than Meachem, but Johnson is also the best WR to come out in like ...... 5 years.
 
#32
#32
VolinArizona said:
Meachem was nowhere near physical this season. He was manhandled by Arkansas and Penn State. Johnson is world's stronger than Meachem, but Johnson is also the best WR to come out in like ...... 5 years.
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Not physical I guess you didnt see the Cal game or any of the other 8 games. He did get shut down in the Bowl and Arky games. What part of the Stat numbers suggest that Calvin was better than meachem or any other good WR? He had 2 more TD than Meach. Meach had more yards, higher average, and best long play. Yeah Calvin was good, but He didnt impress me this year enough to warrant being the best WR to come out in 5 yrs. He wasn't double team as much as I would have expected as the season went on. I will give you the fact that Reggie Ball is a poor excuse for a QB, which would keep calvins numbers down. Remember Ainge went down for more or less 2 1/2 games. imagine Meachems numbers if this didnt happen.
name rec yds ypr long td
Meachem 67 1265 18.9 84 11
Johnson 67 1016 15.2 66 13
 
#33
#33
Liper said:
Looks like Meachem is destined for the 2nd round...

Jarret
Johnson
Smardjiza
Rice
Baker
Bowe
et al.

...unless he can have a combine move to him into the top three WRs. It would be hard to think of any more than 4 WRs going in the 1st round.

But it seems to me he made a good move, all things considered. He'll be good: big, strong, fast, good hands, hard worker, good attitude. Who wouldn't want that?
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i thought he might wait a bit longer to decide on what he would do and see what other WR's were comiing out early....this class is real deep. it will depend on his combine related to the others listed....is it for sure samarjzda is going to play football or is he still toying around with Baseball?

either way though, this is a deep class and Jarret and Johnson are the two "name" guys everyone will know about. If he is the 3rd one selected, that will be mid/low 1st early 2nd round. after 3rd...who knows.
Hope it all works out for him though.
VolinArizona said:
Meachem was nowhere near physical this season. He was manhandled by Arkansas and Penn State. Johnson is world's stronger than Meachem, but Johnson is also the best WR to come out in like ...... 5 years.
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I think he got a lot of mileage off the broken tackles in the Cal game. and it's been debated since then whether it was meach breaking the tackles or cal tackling poorly....but against Arkansas for sure, they were definitely more physical than him.
 
#34
#34
VolinArizona said:
He's not as good as Calvin Johnson.
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Agreed. Johnson's a freak. My friends who are Tech fans are pretty wistful today about Johnson declaring for the draft; it's not that they didn't expect it, but his performance in the Gator Bowl (something like 9 catches, 180 yards, 2 TDs) has them wondering what could only have been if he hadn't been saddled with Reggie Ball all year.

Meachem should be a good NFL receiver and I wish him the best. I completely understand why he's going early. The one concern I have about him at the next level is the way he got pushed around in the Arkansas game -- they played him physically and he couldn't really run his routes. The way they manhandled our receivers in that game is the big reason why I'm not sure that having Ainge would have helped too much in that game.
 
#35
#35
ruslt said:
Not physical I guess you didnt see the Cal game or any of the other 8 games. He did get shut down in the Bowl and Arky games. What part of the Stat numbers suggest that Calvin was better than meachem or any other good WR? He had 2 more TD than Meach. Meach had more yards, higher average, and best long play. Yeah Calvin was good, but He didnt impress me this year enough to warrant being the best WR to come out in 5 yrs. He wasn't double team as much as I would have expected as the season went on. I will give you the fact that Reggie Ball is a poor excuse for a QB, which would keep calvins numbers down. Remember Ainge went down for more or less 2 1/2 games. imagine Meachems numbers if this didnt happen.
name rec yds ypr long td
Meachem 67 1265 18.9 84 11
Johnson 67 1016 15.2 66 13
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A) As much of a stats guy as I am, draft stock relies more on eyes than stats.

B) You've seen the UT games, but you haven't WATCHED. Meachem breaking tackles is NOT WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT. When Meachem was pressed at the line of scrimmage, he was not effective. Period. Once Arkansas shut him down, the only other team with comparable defensive talent to play Tennessee was Penn State. What did they do? They pressed him, and he was rarely effective.

C) Calvin Johnson had the great task of catching balls from the worst 4 year starting QB in the history of football. Watch Johnson play before you really get into this with me. He fought off hard press coverage almost every game. He also has more upper body strength than Meachem, as you can tell by just comparing the two players' bodies.

D) Meachem is great and I think as he matures and gets some great NFL coaching, will have a great career. He's no scrub, he's very very good. Don't think I'm dissing the guy. Johnson is just a beast.
 
#36
#36
VolinArizona said:
A) As much of a stats guy as I am, draft stock relies more on eyes than stats.

B) You've seen the UT games, but you haven't WATCHED. Meachem breaking tackles is NOT WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT. When Meachem was pressed at the line of scrimmage, he was not effective. Period. Once Arkansas shut him down, the only other team with comparable defensive talent to play Tennessee was Penn State. What did they do? They pressed him, and he was rarely effective.

C) Calvin Johnson had the great task of catching balls from the worst 4 year starting QB in the history of football. Watch Johnson play before you really get into this with me. He fought off hard press coverage almost every game. He also has more upper body strength than Meachem, as you can tell by just comparing the two players' bodies.

D) Meachem is great and I think as he matures and gets some great NFL coaching, will have a great career. He's no scrub, he's very very good. Don't think I'm dissing the guy. Johnson is just a beast.
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Was going to post this but you said it for me. Reggie Ball was god awful......
 
#37
#37
Also, I bet you don't know this, but Robert Meachem had 1 stellar year at UT.

Calvin Johnson had 3 seasons in which he led GT in receiving, all from Reggie Ball. 837, 888, 1202. Meachem has nothing like that.
 
#38
#38
I really wish he were staying. That being said, I'm thankful for his time here, and wish him the best on the next level. I'll be a big fan of his come Sundays.:thumbsup:
 
#39
#39
I agree Calvin is a great WR, but in my opinion he isn't the best WR to come out in 5 years. I did agree Reggie Ball Blows. Of course Ball was better then AJ Suggs, but that not saying much.
 
#40
#40
ruslt said:
I agree Calvin is a great WR, but in my opinion he isn't the best WR to come out in 5 years. I did agree Reggie Ball Blows. Of course Ball was better then AJ Suggs, but that not saying much.
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I forgot about Larry Fitzgerald, so he's 1b.
 
#46
#46
from SportzNutz.com - What Are You Nutz About

Top Wide Receivers
1. Dwayne Jarrett*, USC
2. Calvin Johnson*, Georgia Tech
3. Ted Ginn*, Ohio State
4. Jeff Samardzija, Notre Dame
5. Jason Hill, Washington State
6. Steve Breaston, Michigan
7. Courtney Taylor, Auburn
8. Robert Meachem*, Tennessee
9. Early Doucet*, LSU
10. Steve Smith, USC
11. Lance Leggett*, Miami-Fla.
12. Johnnie Lee Higgins, UTEP
13. Todd Blythe*, Iowa State
14. Paul Williams, Fresno State
15. Andre Caldwell, Florida
16. Jarrett Hicks, Texas Tech
17. Dwayne Bowe, LSU
18. Dorien Bryant*, Purdue
19. Chansi Stuckey, Clemson
20. David Clowney, Virginia Tech.

*underclassmen
**dismissed from team
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#48
#48
Breaston @ 6 and Taylor @ 7 is an absolute joke to mock drafts, scouting, and anything intelligent.
 
#49
#49
ViA beat me to it.

I've never heard of the Wazzu dude, so I can't comment on the legitimacy of him being top 5/ahead of Meachem.
 
#50
#50
tidwell said:
ViA beat me to it.

I've never heard of the Wazzu dude, so I can't comment on the legitimacy of him being top 5/ahead of Meachem.
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Hill is a really good WR, and had a fantastic 2005. He's had more college success than Meachem, but Meachem probably has higher upside.
 
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