McRae going PRO?

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volnpowell said:
If I was not a top half of first round, I would come back. If fall to 2nd round you are not guaranteed anything. Btw, I answered your question in recruiting news thread.:hi:
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Well he'll be a senior in 2014 so he doesn't have much of an option besides going pro...thanks!
 
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I wonder if it would be better for him to go this year with all the guys deciding to stay in school?
 
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Daloth said:
The comment was that he was too skinny and weak to play in the league. My comment was that kevin durant couldn't even bench what an above average middle schooler can these days coming out of college and he did just fine. The two are nowhere near the same talent wise, but physically they are similar, long, skinny, and wiry.

and before someone says "Durant is 7 feet tall" I'll say, yes, which makes his skinniness at the time and his weakness even more apparent and a hazard in a more physical game and season.
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To even try and make that comparison in any form is ludicrous. And I don't mean the rapper.
 
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Chris4Vols22 said:
Missed the point.
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It's like people don't even know how to read... The second sentence flat out says that i'm comparing body type and weightroom and not talent, but everyone sees "Kevin Durant and McRae" in the same sentence and immediately think I'm comparing talent. At least some people understand my point that skinny doesn't matter to NBA scouts if you can ball.
 
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I was going to make a thread for this but I don't guess it's that newsworthy, so I will throw it in here- McRae made ESPN's top 10 plays of the month for that 360 dunk. Still an amazing dunk. I dunno if he'll go pro this year or not but I'd say he's more likely to make it than Stokes, JMO.
 
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Orange_Scooter said:
I was going to make a thread for this but I don't guess it's that newsworthy, so I will throw it in here- McRae made ESPN's top 10 plays of the month for that 360 dunk. Still an amazing dunk. I dunno if he'll go pro this year or not but I'd say he's more likely to make it than Stokes, JMO.
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I think McRae will definitely earn a living playing basketball...I just do not think it will be in America without a significant improvement in his skill set.
 
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therealUT said:
I think McRae will definitely earn a living playing basketball...I just do not think it will be in America without a significant improvement in his skill set.
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The only thing holding him back is consistency. If he can sustain his best effort, I like his chances of being a first round pick. Jmo.
 
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Chris4Vols22 said:
The only thing holding him back is consistency. If he can sustain his best effort, I like his chances of being a first round pick. Jmo.
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This. He is elite at scoring and an upper tier athlete. In the NBA as long as you are elite at one thing a team will take a shot on you most times. The fact he's one of the more athletic guys in any draft he's in doesn't hurt. If he averages 16+ next year and they win or compete for the SEC, I can't see him not being drafted. Maybe not a first rounder, but he'll go. And if he averages 18-20+ he'll be a first rounder no question.
 
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Daloth said:
This. He is elite at scoring and an upper tier athlete. In the NBA as long as you are elite at one thing a team will take a shot on you most times. The fact he's one of the more athletic guys in any draft he's in doesn't hurt. If he averages 16+ next year and they win or compete for the SEC, I can't see him not being drafted. Maybe not a first rounder, but he'll go. And if he averages 18-20+ he'll be a first rounder no question.
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No if he averages 16 on this team with this potential fire power we have he will be a first round pick no doubt about it. That's all scouts are looking for is consistency. Averaging 16 points a game is pretty good considering we have 4 other players that could average 10. (Golden, Stokes, Maymon, Hubbs)
 
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SJAVol32 said:
No if he averages 16 on this team with this potential fire power we have he will be a first round pick no doubt about it. That's all scouts are looking for is consistency. Averaging 16 points a game is pretty good considering we have 4 other players that could average 10. (Golden, Stokes, Maymon, Hubbs)
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I say 16 because of what he averaged this year. He won't be drafted first round if he averages 12 and ends out being the second best guard on this team. He needs to at least maintain his current average and be the best scorer on this team to be a first rounder. (Stokes or maymon, or even both, can be better over all, but he needs to be the guy who lights it up).

and this is assuming hubbs pans out.
 
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Notes from 247..doesn't sound good.

We spoke with two sources close to Vols All-SEC sophomore forward Jarnell Stokes last week, and both said they believed the big man was, at least as of that moment, probably leaning a little bit toward declaring for the NBA Draft. Neither could tell us whether Stokes was leaning toward declaring with or without with an agent, and that’s obviously key, because he could still return to school if he didn’t sign with an agent and didn’t take any money and forfeit his status as an amateur athlete.

The other big key with Stokes is this, though: Both sources insisted Stokes hadn’t spoken to UT head coach Cuonzo Martin about the decision, and that nothing would be finalized until those two sat down at length and discussed the situation. Stokes recently told govols247 that he 100 percent trusts Martin — which is why he signed to play for him in the first place — and that he would genuinely listen to his coach’s advice. So we’ll see how that talk goes whenever it happens. We assume that would be fairly soon, obviously, but we don’t know an exact date.

As much as Stokes is intrigued by the idea of playing on a much better UT team next season, there are other factors he’s having to consider, and we think at least most of them are genuine questions. Next season’s draft looks potentially a lot better than this year’s on paper, and that’s something Stokes definitely understands. And while it’s generally believed that All-SEC forward Jeronne Maymon will return next season after redshirting with multiple knee issues, we hesitate to call it a 100 percent certainty until it happens. And Stokes felt like he wasn’t able to show scouts many of the moves he’d worked on last offseason because he couldn’t go anywhere without two and sometimes three defenders on him. If he returns, he might need assurances from Martin that either Maymon’s return and/or better perimeter shooting from others will prevent him being double-teamed every minute of every game.

Stokes doesn’t consider himself a center prospect for the next level. We’re not 100 percent sure why he feels that way — DaJuan Blair and a couple of others are Stokes’ size or smaller and play that position in the NBA — but we at least understand why he feels the way he feels. He embraced being a so-called “garbage man” toward the middle to later stages of last season, and it worked out fairly well. Right or wrong, though, he’s not convinced that always has to be his role. He believes there are other parts to his game, and while he’ll ultimately have to prove that, we’ve seen enough from him in practice and other settings to believe he might just have a point there. But it’s tough to show anything when you get so much attention — attention he wouldn’t get at the next level.

We believe Martin and his staff will try to convince Stokes to return, obviously, and they wont have to lie to tell him genuine reasons why he should return. In short, they believe he’s not ready, and they’ll probably remind him that more than a dozen NBA scouts told UT’s staff that Stokes wasn’t ready — that he needed to improve his motor and get in better shape.

We wouldn’t be surprised if Stokes ultimately returned for his junior season, but we’re not ready to make that prediction. That’s still very much up in the air — or at least it was as of Saturday night.
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Daloth said:
I say 16 because of what he averaged this year. He won't be drafted first round if he averages 12 and ends out being the second best guard on this team. He needs to at least maintain his current average and be the best scorer on this team to be a first rounder. (Stokes or maymon, or even both, can be better over all, but he needs to be the guy who lights it up).

and this is assuming hubbs pans out.
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Oh I get you. 16 would definitely make him the focal point of the team. As long as he improves on the other things he will be drafted late first round possibly
 
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So Martin hasn't met with his players in regards to current workouts and summer plans to improve the team and individual skills, much less who may be leaving? If he is going pro, he should be getting pro workouts.
Another bad decision, imo, by our coach
 
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Spartacavolus said:
So Martin hasn't met with his players in regards to current workouts and summer plans to improve the team and individual skills, much less who may be leaving? If he is going pro, he should be getting pro workouts.
Another bad decision, imo, by our coach
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How do we know he hasn't met with the team? He could be waiting until he gets the proper feedback from scouts before meeting with the two players.
 
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Ericvol2096 said:
Notes from 247..doesn't sound good.
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I actually think it sounded really good in that Stokes is logically weighing his options. They only part that didn't sound so good to me is the part where he is wanting to know how we will use him. He wanted some definite idea of how Coach Martin will use a big man. This was the hangup about Austin Nichols not coming since he could not be convinced how UT would use him.
 
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SJAVol32 said:
How do we know he hasn't met with the team? He could be waiting until he gets the proper feedback from scouts before meeting with the two players.
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Scout feedback is already old news. I am assuming he hasn't met or talked to stokes about a decision because that is what I just read, and I think that is odd. Jmo, but the season has been over for a month, and you better have a backup plan in place.
 
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Spartacavolus said:
So Martin hasn't met with his players in regards to current workouts and summer plans to improve the team and individual skills, much less who may be leaving? If he is going pro, he should be getting pro workouts.
Another bad decision, imo, by our coach
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Most coaches haven't, they were just on spring break. Most coaches have a meeting after the final four with their team.
 
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