McElWain canned for cause, can we use the same "cause?"

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Just for snicks and giggles UF indicated they terminated McElwain "for cause." Sounds like he accepted it or took it for what it was. What was THE cause? I heard a nebulous explanation about not winning enough?!?!? Why can't we can CBJ for the same "cause?" Goodness knows he didn't win as much as McElwain did. Thoughts?
 
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Lying to your employer whom you've already antagonized is never a good idea.

McElwain just lit his own fuse with the death threat claims.
 
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Butch is too resilient and tough. McElwaine faked a hitman being after him and melted down. Butch would unleash unshirted hell on a stalker as would Ed Orgeron. Same was true of Majors and Fulmer - fine to hurl insults behind their backs - you would not want them one on one.
 
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Remy said:
Just for snicks and giggles UF indicated they terminated McElwain "for cause." Sounds like he accepted it or took it for what it was. What was THE cause? I heard a nebulous explanation about not winning enough?!?!? Why can't we can CBJ for the same "cause?" Goodness knows he didn't win as much as McElwain did. Thoughts?
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The cause was for the lies about the death threats but we just used that to dump a Coach whos relationship with the university was souring very quickly.
 
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knox73 said:
Butch is too resilient and tough. McElwaine faked a hitman being after him and melted down. Butch would unleash unshirted hell on a stalker as would Ed Orgeron. Same was true of Majors and Fulmer - fine to hurl insults behind their backs - you would not want them one on one.
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wut
 
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Butch has lied to us all : about the best staff in America and his infallible offense, etc

Too bad we can’t use those as cause to force him out. I wanted Butch to succeed - I want my Vols to succeed. But after last 2 debacles the next coach will have earn my support by delivering on the field and scoreboard. I will continue to support the team though — I will give up the sport before looking for another team to cheer for
 
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knox73 said:
Butch is too resilient and tough. McElwaine faked a hitman being after him and melted down. Butch would unleash unshirted hell on a stalker as would Ed Orgeron. Same was true of Majors and Fulmer - fine to hurl insults behind their backs - you would not want them one on one.
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Really? I just can't see Butch doing that.
 
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Fake news about death threats made to family and players on the team. Perfect storm for Florida and gave them the perfect reason and time for canning Macelweenie.
 
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Giveem6 said:
Fake news about death threats made to family and players on the team. Perfect storm for Florida and gave them the perfect reason and time for canning Macelweenie.
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That's what people don't get. This wasn't really Florida making a gutsy move. This was them jumping at an opportunity to unload their coach for a reduced buyout.
 
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GAVol said:
Lying to your employer whom you've already antagonized is never a good idea.

McElwain just lit his own fuse with the death threat claims.
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Might of not had an issue........................if he didn't mention that players were getting said death threats. That's what got him.
 
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There was a story stating the UF had cause because he went public about the death threats he and some of the players have received.
 
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I'm betting this maneuver costs Florida more than it saves. Florida is a top ten job but not many people will work for a backstabbing AD that rips his employees off on the way out the door.
 
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BearCat204 said:
Might of not had an issue........................if he didn't mention that players were getting said death threats. That's what got him.
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Yep... The ramifications of allegations like that are pretty big.
 
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Remy said:
Just for snicks and giggles UF indicated they terminated McElwain "for cause." Sounds like he accepted it or took it for what it was. What was THE cause? I heard a nebulous explanation about not winning enough?!?!? Why can't we can CBJ for the same "cause?" Goodness knows he didn't win as much as McElwain did. Thoughts?
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The cause was claiming he and some players had received death threats. When asked about it, he had no proof of said threats, nor did any players back up that claim.

Since none of Butch's idiotic statements would not call for local state or federal law enforcement, it is much like the Monty Python dead parrot skit. Since a slug can't talk, it is scarcely a replacement.
 
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DaddyChad said:
I'm betting this maneuver costs Florida more than it saves. Florida is a top ten job but not many people will work for a backstabbing AD that rips his employees off on the way out the door.
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Florida could have that job filled in 24 hours if they wanted to.

McElwain has been acting like a tool and at odds with his administration since he got the job.
 
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cause we can't win a game even when the opponent turns it over 4 times...... I think that is enough cause.
 
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GAVol said:
Florida could have that job filled in 24 hours if they wanted to.

McElwain has been acting like a tool and at odds with his administration since he got the job.
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K. Last time they ended up with mcelwain. It's not the filling it, it's filling it with someone that can go elsewhere. Florida had a more talented team when Muschamp left as well.
 
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Remy said:
Just for snicks and giggles UF indicated they terminated McElwain "for cause." Sounds like he accepted it or took it for what it was. What was THE cause? I heard a nebulous explanation about not winning enough?!?!? Why can't we can CBJ for the same "cause?" Goodness knows he didn't win as much as McElwain did. Thoughts?
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I don't see where they have said for "cause" maybe I have missed it. There are terms within is contract which spells out "for cause", from me skimming it... they would have to actually give him a hearing and review. I doesn't sound like any of that is being done so probably, they have reached an agreement. If they have not, than Florida is probably in very deep because they really don't have cause and they don't appear to be following any of the steps to fire him for cause.
 
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GAVol said:
Lying to your employer whom you've already antagonized is never a good idea.

McElwain just lit his own fuse with the death threat claims.
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My theory was when McElwain showed the AD the death threat texts, the AD was like "oh yeah, that was me."
 
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GAVol said:
Lying to your employer whom you've already antagonized is never a good idea.

McElwain just lit his own fuse with the death threat claims.
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There's no reason for someone to make up death threat claims. You know that stuff happens all the time. UF just didn't want to pay the cash. Sure, he probably didn't prove it to them. CJM strikes me a dude who would rather leave it buried then drag his family through it.

You're telling me UF fans DIDN'T send him death threats? Have you met them?
 
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GAVol said:
Florida could have that job filled in 24 hours if they wanted to.

McElwain has been acting like a tool and at odds with his administration since he got the job.
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Anyone could have the job filled in 24. Finding someone worth having around is another story.
 
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Orange Death said:
There's no reason for someone to make up death threat claims. You know that stuff happens all the time. UF just didn't want to pay the cash. Sure, he probably didn't prove it to them. CJM strikes me a dude who would rather leave it buried then drag his family through it.

You're telling me UF fans DIDN'T send him death threats? Have you met them?
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He already admitted he was bring up the old death threats, assuming those were true. All of that is irrelevant though, meaning, that isn't really cause, and proof is in the pudding they let him coach and waited to see the outcome before firing him.

I assume they have an agreement in principle, if not, Florida is in the loser situation in a big way as the contract specifies what needs to happen.

They didn't have cause, if he was winning or he was a normal employee - nobody would care.
 
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