McCoy May Return For Arkansas

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vol94 said:
Hope he plays but both Price and Hubbs said he hasn’t gone thru full contact, yet, which is a “must” before he is cleared to play in a game.

Idk their schedule so maybe the team was given off Monday and Tuesday due to bye.
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I’m attempting to give you information that is more up to date than whatever Laurel and Hardy recorded Monday at 5.
 
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LWSVOL said:
just FYI

He still has not had contact and he has not been cleared by doctors. He defnitely wants to play but it’s questionable (in my mind) how effective he can be with not having contact since last year. How many snaps can he play? If he goes against Arkansas, it will really have to be limited just due to his inactivity. JMO
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That’s what Price said today on 104.5 zone.

He had not gone thru full contact in practice as of this morning.

I hope he plays but not sure how effective he will be. It usually takes a good yr to recover from this type of injury. And, DB is one of the most difficult positions to play.
 
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This is such a weird predicament. Jermod was projected CB1 for the 26 draft (projection). I want him to get healthy and be 💯 percent ready to go.

If that’s preparing for the NFL draft, I wouldn’t fault the kid, especially if he has assurances to be a day 1/2 pick.

But I also think we have a team that could compete for a playoff spot if things break right and he’d be a huge piece of the 🧩
 
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Power_Sweep_Vol said:
Are they ever unsuccessful?
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Yes. There is no such thing as routine surgery. On ramping his therapy is also a key factor.

Lots of variables with this thing. If he had a meniscus repair his recovery will look different than one without. Also if he had any damage to the LCL or MCL that changes things.

Also graft selection is a variable. A bone tendon bone graft versus a soft tissue graft alters the way the knee recovers. For instance a quad tendon graft harvest affects how quickly the quad will fire post op. Need that quad firing to really start certain PT exercises.

All this said, it takes every player different times to get back. And much of it is not anything he can control. And many things can go wrong to delay recovery. Sorry for nerding out a bit in here.
 
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I’ve listened to this guy before and love his insights. He needs to cross reference that data with offensive performance data against each of those covers. For example, he is saying we do best in Cover 1, so we should do more. Well, who do we run cover 1 against and how good was their offense. Anyways he sounds very knowledgeable and trustworthy. Hopefully he’s right about McCoy.
 
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newyorkvol said:
I said in the injury thread that I think this kind of has to happen. I highly doubt an NFL team would use an upper round draft pick, or maybe even any draft pick, on a player coming off such a big surgery without any evidence on the field that it was successful.
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Sam Bradford went first overall despite having his college career ended by a major injury. Gronk missed his entire junior season and went in the 2nd round. Sidney Jones was a corner who went in the 2nd round after tearing his Achilles at Washington’s pro day. Teams spend picks on guys who got hurt in their last year all the time.

If he doesn’t play this year, he will still get drafted barring off field or health concerns beyond the injury popping up. He may fall out of the first, unless he tests really well, in which case teams may not be too worried about the injury. Torn ACLs do not give teams pause like they used to. They’re viewed as a formality now that a guy can get back from it, as long as it isn’t like what just happened to Tyreke Hill yesterday.
 
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newyorkvol said:
I said in the injury thread that I think this kind of has to happen. I highly doubt an NFL team would use an upper round draft pick, or maybe even any draft pick, on a player coming off such a big surgery without any evidence on the field that it was successful.
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Titans took Caleb Farley 1st round in 2021 she his missed the entire 2020 season with a torn ACL. A couple years before that they took Jeffrey Simmons in the 1st round who tore his ACL while training right before the draft.

I know the Titans aren't the model NFL franchise, but there are plenty of teams who make risky decisions in the draft.
 
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Jxn Vol said:
Yes. There is no such thing as routine surgery. On ramping his therapy is also a key factor.

Lots of variables with this thing. If he had a meniscus repair his recovery will look different than one without. Also if he had any damage to the LCL or MCL that changes things.

Also graft selection is a variable. A bone tendon bone graft versus a soft tissue graft alters the way the knee recovers. For instance a quad tendon graft harvest affects how quickly the quad will fire post op. Need that quad firing to really start certain PT exercises.

All this said, it takes every player different times to get back. And much of it is not anything he can control. And many things can go wrong to delay recovery. Sorry for nerding out a bit in here.
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Obviously, whatever Jourdan Thomas did to his knee was way worse than whatever McCoy did to his.
 
#46
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McCoy won’t be rushed back. The training staff has gates he needs to get to before they would clear him. A lot of this is seeing how the knee reacts to increased stress. That takes time as you increase progressively then observe. Ideally he’s ready but if he isn’t hitting yet, don’t expect much.

Not as worried about “football” shape at DB. The rehab can be grueling with lifting, conditioning etc. WRs and DBs tend to ramp up faster. There will definitely be a curve but more concerned around the mental aspect.

Hope he does what’s right for his health and GBO!!!!
 
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newyorkvol said:
I said in the injury thread that I think this kind of has to happen. I highly doubt an NFL team would use an upper round draft pick, or maybe even any draft pick, on a player coming off such a big surgery without any evidence on the field that it was successful.
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All the talking heads have him in the first round even with the injury. Look where Hooker got picked without post surgery proof.
 
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