Maymon,Stokes,McRae all support Martin to Cal

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whobethis16 said:
Yes, I will. I won't call for his head, unlike some, I won't call him a douchebag when he's shown nothing but integrity, I'll still yell and scream etc. Just like I've said all damn season.
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Not meeting with his players is anything but showing integrity. Meeting with Cal on a recruiting trip for UT is pretty low too.
 
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BadJerry20 said:
A tougher breed...
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that runs away to the west coast because people were pissed about bad basketball and the 500 signatures by Mike Hunt were just too much to handle.

This is hilarious. Now find a coach who can coach and doesn't give a **** about anything else. If he had coached well his first 2.5 years, it would've never happened.
 
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vols 30 said:
Not meeting with his players is anything but showing integrity. Meeting with Cal on a recruiting trip for UT is pretty low too.
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Ok, so, since so many people use the "it's not like you haven't lied" to defend Pearl, I'll use the like you haven't run errands or interviewed or something when your boss thought you were working for him/her.
 
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volholio said:
You all clearly don't understand basketball. The team played well all year. The numbers bare that out. KenPom--whom every single coach in the nation respects--had UT in the top ten all year. They beat the hell out of UVA by 35 points.

They had a couple of unlucky losses. THat happens in short seasons.

Our fanbase--once again--gets what it deserves.
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Please. They followed the exact same pattern they did every year he was at UT. Start off the season flat and terrible. Win a game or two that you shouldn't. Lose to far more inferior teams than you should. This year they just so happened to squeak into the tournament and started playing the way many fans knew they were capable of all year.

Heck, even Cuonzo himself said they didn't fully buy-in until after our 2nd loss to Miss. St. I believe. Near the very end of the year.

VolGee4 said:
Something tells me they didn't wait until the end. Pretty sure they played hard...and the last 2 years. Criticize the schemes and such, but the players played hard for him. These kinds of posts are dumb IMO. Two guys on that team who will play some sort of pro ball.
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I never said they didn't play hard. Didn't mean for it to come across like that. Like I said before though, even Cuonzo and the players admitted they didn't fully buy-in together, as a unit, until the very end of the year.

If anything, the whole petition and fan dissatisfaction served as a wake-up call for everyone. Their surge at the end of the year proved they were capable of far more and that Cuonzo wasn't getting the best out of them earlier on.

PineyBluff Vol said:
Most of them can't even buy a beer...on the other hand I suppose you are an adult. Start acting like one!
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Not following you here. This in response to me or the tweets?
 
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It was a bad fit Day One. Another wannabe. He underperformed as a HC for nearly 3 seasons. Jordy was clearly frustrated with him during the middle of the season as was Jarnell. Their immaturity is disgusting after all of the support fans gave them personally as well as the program when they stunk it up. None of them even believed when they were floundering after a second loss to aTm. Then they got a run going against mostly inferior rosters/teams. Big whoop.

Better hire a proven guy, Hart.
 
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vols 30 said:
For the record, I'll give you credit for showing up today. Will you support the new coach like you did CM?
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Is this a joke? There are many on here who will actually support whoever is the coach at UT. It is my alma mater, and unless the coach is just miserable or a criminal, then he will get our support.
 
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As soon as we get rid of all these fans that are ok with such mediocrity, the administration will spend the money needed to land a high profile coach. As long as its ok with a large portion of the fan base, the administration will continue to do it. So all you folks claiming that Clownzo was a good coach will be partly responsible when we hire another mediocre coach. I can't blame the administration for saving money when so many of our fans think what we've had is ok.
 
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k-town_king said:
One publication who was taking into account Maymon playing had us top 30. Whoo hoo. Maymon didn't play and we met expectations. I said surpassed two year and met them once. They met them that year.

What about every single poll and publication. Including the ones that count (coaches) (Media) that picked us 11 or 12 of 12 his first year. He overachieved. Tjis year not ranked at all. Won 20+ and made the Sweet 16. Overachieved.

Dummies like you are why we need a new coach and may not be able to attract a top level coach. Everyone but some of the "fans" know he met or surpassed expectations each year but got no respect.
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No it's itiots like you who somehow looked at our roster his first year and thought we were deserving of being picked 11th out of 12. Pearl left Maymon, McRae and Golden, all above average players and he added JRich and Stokes later. Even without Stokes we likely finish top 5. The talent was there, the experience just wasn't. Still no excuse to lose to APSU, CofC, Oakland etc. I'm not having this argument with you again. You're hell bent there was no talent and CCM developed diamonds out of coal. Every recruiting service disagrees with you but you know as much.
 
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volholio said:
You all clearly don't understand basketball. The team played well all year. The numbers bare that out. KenPom--whom every single coach in the nation respects--had UT in the top ten all year. They beat the hell out of UVA by 35 points.

They had a couple of unlucky losses. THat happens in short seasons.

Our fanbase--once again--gets what it deserves.
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This is totally false - KenPom - is certainly a good measure of the talent and expectations against other teams based on that talent. This team did not play well all year - and in fact there were periods when they were poorly coached, substitutions were erratic, time outs were ill conceived, and strategy was lacking. They did play well down the stretch and the coaching improved down the stretch. For the bulk of the year they underachieved, fans were unhappy with the team underachieving-- as they should have been. His recruiting was below average vs. the rest of the conference.
Next year without Stokes was shaping up to be a disaster. He is a great person and a player's coach - his recruiting and coaching overall was just average imho.
 
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titansvolsfaninga said:
Some of the fans just don't get it. Who would want to coach here and deal with some of these inbreds.
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Didn't scare Calipari off, and UK is 10x worse than us. Money cures a lot of problems. If you want someone serious you offer them what it takes. People put up with a lot of $hit if they're being compensated for it.
 
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bowlinggreenvol said:
No it's itiots like you who somehow looked at our roster his first year and thought we were deserving of being picked 11th out of 12. Pearl left Maymon, McRae and Golden, all above average players and he added JRich and Stokes later. Even without Stokes we likely finish top 5. The talent was there, the experience just wasn't. Still no excuse to lose to APSU, CofC, Oakland etc. I'm not having this argument with you again. You're hell bent there was no talent and CCM developed diamonds out of coal. Every recruiting service disagrees with you but you know as much.
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What the hell did you see prior to Martin's first year that gave you any confidence that McRae and Maymon would be what they were? I saw nothing, and neither did the real experts. Hindsight is 20-20.
 
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bowlinggreenvol said:
No it's itiots like you who somehow looked at our roster his first year and thought we were deserving of being picked 11th out of 12. Pearl left Maymon, McRae and Golden, all above average players and he added JRich and Stokes later. Even without Stokes we likely finish top 5. The talent was there, the experience just wasn't. Still no excuse to lose to APSU, CofC, Oakland etc. I'm not having this argument with you again. You're hell bent there was no talent and CCM developed diamonds out of coal. Every recruiting service disagrees with you but you know as much.
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And it was excusable for Pearl to lose to those teams? With even more talent?
 
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whobethis16 said:
What the hell did you see prior to Martin's first year that gave you any confidence that McRae and Maymon would be what they were? I saw nothing, and neither did the real experts. Hindsight is 20-20.
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The fact that they were top 50 recruits with multiple BCS level offers. They were true and RS FR respectively, Pearl's last year. McRae wasn't "needed" enough to justify major minutes over Tatum, Hopson or Tobias. I'd argue Maymon was greatly needed and should've been on the floor the 2nd half of the season when he became eligible over Steven. But he was behind a SR who carried the same last name as the HC.
 
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Perhaps McRae might want to look no further than his own teammates and the fact that they played shoddy basketball for 85% of the year and didn't step up until Martin started to get criticized. Maybe if they had put forth a little more effort then nobody would have said anything bad about poor little Cuonzo. It's either that or Martin just didnt have what it takes to get the job done, either way he's gone and it's time to move on.
 
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whobethis16 said:
And it was excusable for Pearl to lose to those teams? With even more talent?
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No it's not, and I'm not a Pearl fan. Pearl's X&O coaching is mediocre at best. He's not much more than a motivator and salesman. I'm just fine not seeing Pearl strolling our court side and it has nothing to do with his lying.
 
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whobethis16 said:
Ok, so, since so many people use the "it's not like you haven't lied" to defend Pearl, I'll use the like you haven't run errands or interviewed or something when your boss thought you were working for him/her.
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So discussing/interviewing for another job while on the clock is an errand? Your logic is laughable.
 
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