Maymon likely to become a Vol

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Unimane said:
Why you guys sit around like hat groupies and take every morsel he shovels into your mouth as gospel, I don´t know. I´ve seen Maymon play and I can tell you I have reservations as well as see the possibilities. He´s not a feature player. Fortunately, with Golden, McRae and Harris coming in, I don´t think he will be counted on as being the star. Otherwise, I thought he did a nice job as one who did the dirty work, played unselfish and was part of a winning program at Madison Memorial (Whom my high school beat my senior year years ago, just to add.).

I think the issue I´m hearing is the dad, who is too much of a Little League parent. Maymon himself seemed like a good kid and could be a positive as an indian as opposed to the chief his dad want him to be. We´ll see. I´m curious to hear the commentary from the two if they are going to Knoxville.
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It doesn't take a genius to see Pearl's infatuation with washouts.
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kiffincrazy28 said:
So let me get this right.... You love the way that we have players that could easily be NBA material but they dont know what ball pressure is and they just jack three's like crazy, you think thats good?
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I don't see any NBA Material. I haven't seen any at UT for years, except Watson, and he was marginal. Pearl does really well with the talent he has had and has been able to recruit to a one sport football school. You all seem to be unrealistic. UT is not a basketball school and the talent knows that. Kentucky is. We are just starting to get close to NBA talent...like Kenny Hall. He has quicks and he is the first. Scotty was rated too high and that is why we got him. Smith is just a little too slow.

Besides these kids go to games expected to work their tails off while the fans sit on their hands. Get off your hands and act like Kentucky, NC or Duke fans and kids might be inspired to play beyond their talent. The talent sees these quiet and unappreciative appearing fans and then they see the basketball school fans. More fun to play at Kentucky.
 
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AlaskaVol said:
I don't see any NBA Material. I haven't seen any at UT for years, except Watson, and he was marginal. Pearl does really well with the talent he has had and has been able to recruit to a one sport football school. You all seem to be unrealistic. UT is not a basketball school and the talent knows that. Kentucky is. We are just starting to get close to NBA talent...like Kenny Hall. He has quicks and he is the first. Scotty was rated too high and that is why we got him. Smith is just a little too slow.

Besides these kids go to games expected to work their tails off while the fans sit on their hands. Get off your hands and act like Kentucky, NC or Duke fans and kids might be inspired to play beyond their talent. The talent sees these quiet and unappreciative appearing fans and then they see the basketball school fans. More fun to play at Kentucky.
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You dont watch Tennessee basketball if you dont see any NBA material, Tyler Smith if he could handle the ball and shoot well he would be top 15 pick IMO...... Hopson has Tons of potential but he cant play defense or shoot worth a lick im telling you with the right coach this team is easily as talented as any other team in the country!

ALSO,,,, are you saying if everybody in TBA would stand up and scream and get behind the players we would be able to recruit better? thats a horrible statement.
 
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AlaskaVol said:
Where do some of you "pre madonnas" come off thinking you know more about coaching basketball than Pearl. Does even one of you have any college coaching and recruiting experience? No! But you sure have negative opinions unsupported by any depth of knowledge or experience. Sometimes these threads make Vols sound like mean spirited and small minded rednecks.

It is a bad reflection on rednecks.
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No, but I have narked on someone before. So me and Pearl are pretty close in that department.

I've seen more D-I and NBA talent in person in 3 nights in a high school gym this year, than that has been on the floor in orange in TBA this year.
 
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kiffincrazy28 said:
You dont watch Tennessee basketball if you dont see any NBA material, Tyler Smith if he could handle the ball and shoot well he would be top 15 pick IMO...... Hopson has Tons of potential but he cant play defense or shoot worth a lick im telling you with the right coach this team is easily as talented as any other team in the country!

ALSO,,,, are you saying if everybody in TBA would stand up and scream and get behind the players we would be able to recruit better? thats a horrible statement.
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yea wouldnt you wanna go to a school where people went crazy at games
 
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Lofton4Three said:
It doesn't take a genius to see Pearl's infatuation with washouts.
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Given the two programs who it appears to have come down to for Maymon, it appears the main criteria is a coach who was able to parlay nonexistent interest from Memphis into a better contract.
 
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AlaskaVol said:
Besides these kids go to games expected to work their tails off while the fans sit on their hands. Get off your hands and act like Kentucky, NC or Duke fans and kids might be inspired to play beyond their talent. The talent sees these quiet and unappreciative appearing fans and then they see the basketball school fans. More fun to play at Kentucky.
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Funny, I've seen a lot of threads at Catspause where posters complain about dead crowds at Rupp Arena.

I'm sure if the team scrapped for loose balls like they did a couple years ago the crowd would be more appreciative.
 
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Velo Vol said:
Funny, I've seen a lot of threads at Catspause where posters complain about dead crowds at Rupp Arena.

I'm sure if the team scrapped for loose balls like they did a couple years ago the crowd would be more appreciative.
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They dont use up all their energy at home games at Rupp. They save it for the Honky Tonk later
 
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So many experts...something in your egg nog? I've complete confidence in Bruce Pearl. Let the doubters rant on, since they didn't get what they wanted for Christmas.
 
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feathersax said:
So many experts...something in your egg nog? I've complete confidence in Bruce Pearl. Let the doubters rant on, since they didn't get what they wanted for Christmas.
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I just have to ask. Why do you have complete confidence in him? Did you have that same confidence in Fulmer?
 
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It seems like he's taking his sweet old time deciding. Is there still a chance he enrolls for second semester at this point? It seems like he is just planning on burning this year eligibility wise, redshirting next year, and playing in the 2011-2012 season as a redshirt sophomore.

I don't want the kid. Not because he is a bad player, but because I like what we have for next season already (I'm really only worried about the PG spot - but hopefully Goins and Maze can get it done there).
 
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kiffincrazy28 said:
You dont watch Tennessee basketball if you dont see any NBA material, Tyler Smith if he could handle the ball and shoot well he would be top 15 pick IMO...... Hopson has Tons of potential but he cant play defense or shoot worth a lick im telling you with the coach this team is easily as talented as any other team in the country!

ALSO,,,, are you saying if everybody in TBA would stand up and scream and get behind the players we would be able to recruit better? thats a horrible statement.
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:lolabove:The problem with the stuff in the bold is... well if put I in there instead of he then I am pretty sure you got me nailed down. I can't shoot or dribble and prolly couldn't make a Middle School basketball team except for the fact I am 6'2... But I mean seriously saying a player is NBA material IF he could "shoot and handle the ball" is like saying I would be great at hockey if I could skate...:crazy:
 
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Thump said:
:lolabove:The problem with the stuff in the bold is... well if put I in there instead of he then I am pretty sure you got me nailed down. I can't shoot or dribble and prolly couldn't make a Middle School basketball team except for the fact I am 6'2... But I mean seriously saying a player is NBA material IF he could "shoot and handle the ball" is like saying I would be great at hockey if I could skate...:crazy:
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I agree with you. I am only 6 foot, but if I was bigger, stronger and athleticly more gifted I could be the point guard the team needs.
NBA talent dominates and plays like NBA talent. It is not really hard to recognize. Kenny Hall has the quicks. Remember when Chism and Crews misses all those layups as freshmen. Wayne is still missing them, but his 3 ball is much better...great?

Hall dunks like a lightening strike. Our only NBA material! Pearl does well with the players he has and Cal, K or Williams, or the other 5 or so great coaches will never come to a football school.
 
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AlaskaVol said:
I agree with you. I am only 6 foot, but if I was bigger, stronger and athleticly more gifted I could be the point guard the team needs.
NBA talent dominates and plays like NBA talent. It is not really hard to recognize. Kenny Hall has the quicks. Remember when Chism and Crews misses all those layups as freshmen. Wayne is still missing them, but his 3 ball is much better...great?

Hall dunks like a lightening strike. Our only NBA material! Pearl does well with the players he has and Cal, K or Williams, or the other 5 or so great coaches will never come to a football school.
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So you say there are only about 8 great coaches in all of basketball?

Those eight teams that have them must have caught "lightening" in a bottle.
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Thump said:
:lolabove:The problem with the stuff in the bold is... well if put I in there instead of he then I am pretty sure you got me nailed down. I can't shoot or dribble and prolly couldn't make a Middle School basketball team except for the fact I am 6'2... But I mean seriously saying a player is NBA material IF he could "shoot and handle the ball" is like saying I would be great at hockey if I could skate...:crazy:
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If I was about four or five inches taller and weighed sixty more pounds and was about a second faster in the 40 I could be playing in the NFL right now.
 
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kiffincrazy28 said:
You dont watch Tennessee basketball if you dont see any NBA material, Tyler Smith if he could handle the ball and shoot well he would be top 15 pick IMO...... Hopson has Tons of potential but he cant play defense or shoot worth a lick im telling you with the right coach this team is easily as talented as any other team in the country!
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Please re read your post,, you are making an argumanet that if these two could shoot and handle the ball they couId be in the NBA. That is true of many - volunteers or not.
 
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Lofton4Three said:
It doesn't take a genius to see Pearl's infatuation with washouts.
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And herein lies the problem with many on this board. I´m probably one of, maybe, two people in this whole thread who has actually seen this kid play, up close. Yet, the only comment or reaction I get is the typically douchy one from one of the Anti-Pearlistas, brilliant, as usual. No questions about the kid´s attitude, game or circumstances. Nothing. No actual basketball knowledge displayed or desired here, just potshots and condescension of those not "smart enough" to crap on all that is UT basketball right now.

As far as the "washouts", yes, Pearl has had quite a few in his time. He made a living picking up guys at UWM and USI. You can do just fine picking up guys who were not successful at other places. Bill Snyder built a football program with them and even the venerable "Mr. Discipline" Bobby Knight had a JUCO hit the game winning shot for a national title.

However, it isn´t as if we´re living off of these guys. One each for the past three recruiting years is not an "infatuation".
 
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Because we already know he has attitude problems and transferred because Daddy didn't like how he was only playing 17 minutes a game as a freshman even though he wasn't producing that much
 
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bburger991 said:
Because we already know he has attitude problems and transferred because Daddy didn't like how he was only playing 17 minutes a game as a freshman even though he wasn't producing that much
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Really? You "know"? How? Because you read it on a message board or the All-Powerful hat dogged the kid? Sorry, I´d be more inclined to take into account the person who´s actually bothered to watch the kid.

By the way, playing 17 minutes as a true freshman at Marquette ain´t bad. Just because he didn´t get along with the coach doesn´t necessarily mean the kid has attitude problems.

Like I said, the kid won´t be a star, but I wouldn´t write him off as a problem child who won´t contribute. He definitely has the potential to do certain things well for us.
 
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bburger991 said:
Because we already know he has attitude problems and transferred because Daddy didn't like how he was only playing 17 minutes a game as a freshman even though he wasn't producing that much
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But that doesn't help Unimane in his Pearl-slurping torch carrying campaign.
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I was not the minutes it was the position from what I read. He does not want to be used like a center.
 
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The kids own coach said that. I'll go try to find the link againn.

And I know 17 minutes a night at Marquette isn't bad. Its when he doesn't do a ton with it and his dad is trying to run the show with him thats causing issues.
 
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Jeronne Maymon: He Just Never Got It at Marquette | Bleacher Report

It feels like people have no freaking idea what they are talking about. He did not want to be a 6'6 center in the Big East.

He will be in a great spot to round out a talented frontcourt at UT.

Kenny Hall, Jerrone Maymon and Tobias Harris will make up a more talented frontcourt than Wayne Chism, Tyler Smith and a wing who is missing 3s. We will be able to have a great frontcourt with 2 forwards and we will be able to run. Golden at point and Hopson at SG, I like it better than what we are doing now.

JP Prince almost died in Arizona in a coma. He never recovered. This kid has an overly involved dad, but he just wants to play forward. Once he is at UT, he cannot go straight to the NBA unless he sucks it up and does what Pearl says. That is the way it is.

If Selby had not decomitted, I would be confident that Bruce Pearl was headed to a Final Four. Without him, we have to wait now two years to have a stud PG who can keep everyone in front of him defensively and who can create points off the dribble. Ware will define Bruce Pearl in some ways, but he looks good enough as a freshman to potentially make 2011 a very special year.
 
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