Maybe CJH knew all along...

#51
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EZE said:
Nico does have exceptional physical talent. And I think he had a chance to develop into a very good QB under Heupel and likely get drafted. I don’t see that happening at UCLA, and I can see him being benched before the season ends.
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How humiliating that would be, benched and have little brother take over.
 
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Just pointing out that Heupel had no say in how much NIL Nico was paid or not. Many focus on the $ and overlook that not only was Nico a no-show for the spring game and went radio silent as staff tried to reach him, his father was attempting to dictate how Heupel recruited and schemed around his son who was pedestrian on-field. And his father was shopping him.

Any of those reasons are enough to shed Nico, but cumulatively it's a must-do. Freeing up Spyre $ was just icing.
 
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EZE said:
You do realize that Milton is a #2 QB in the NFL in his second year? Milton always has had, and always will have, better arm talent than anyone on his team…and that will carry through his pro career.

And he got better over his time here. And looks like he’s continuing to develop.
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The guy has sucked out loud everywhere he has been.
 
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volbound1700 said:
Nico probably needed to leave Tennessee to develop but he went to the worse possible destination. He should have went to a G5 school where competition isn't as tough on opposing Ds and pressure isn't there. Instead, he went to a team that basically still plays a Tennessee-like schedule but has half the talent.
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But I can’t think of a better coach for a QB to develop under than Heupel. Heupel will maximize whatever abilities a QB possesses
 
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carolinaviking said:
Just watched the UCLA game. Nico looked the exact same as he did last year, and Utah clobbered them. So it's crystal clear that our O-line, running game, and defense were the reasons for our success last year, not our star QB.

When CJH announced that Iamaleava was leaving UT, it came out of nowhere. It was very sudden. Coach didn't seem to be all that interested in persuading Iamaleava to stay. So I have to wonder: did CJH know that Iamaleava was way over-hyped, that he was our weakest link, and maybe he saw Nico's demand for more NIL money not as a sudden problem, but rather as an opportunity? Joey Aguilar was on nobody's radar before the trade, but it's obvious UT upgraded. Maybe CJH knew any old QB who could go to a 2nd or 3rd read receiver would be an upgrade.

Side note: seems Heupel is such a good coach, that our system can do great things with an average WB.
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He knew enough not to give him anything more than a small, vanilla playbook last year.

Totally different from what he just trusted Aguilar with.
 
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Makes you wonder what things would have been like if we had went after Arch instead of Nico. He didn’t look great yesterday against OSU. But then again, moats quarterbacks wouldn’t.
I remember how confident I was thatvqe had scored the best QB out of that class in Nico.
Boy was I ever wrong.
Just glad we ended up with Joey when all was said and done.
 
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Wonder if Squirrel might have stayed if he knew what was going to happen at QB. I think he saw that his potential was never going to be met with Nico throwing to him.
That kid was something
 
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OrangeTsar said:
Makes you wonder what things would have been like if we had went after Arch instead of Nico. He didn’t look great yesterday against OSU. But then again, moats quarterbacks wouldn’t.
I remember how confident I was thatvqe had scored the best QB out of that class in Nico.
Boy was I ever wrong.
Just glad we ended up with Joey when all was said and done.
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Arch has a ton of pressure on him and it showed yesterday. He will be fine after a couple of games. Playing against OSU in game 1 didn't help
 
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OrangeTsar said:
Wonder if Squirrel might have stayed if he knew what was going to happen at QB. I think he saw that his potential was never going to be met with Nico throwing to him.
That kid was something
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Maybe, but the rumor is the coaching staff wasn’t really trying to retain him. Plus he wanted to be closer to family since he has a kid.
 
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I am of the opinion that Nico knew he was about to be exposed in the next season in the SEC and dear old Dad thought he had better put the pressure for money on while he could.

A h real problem was that he was not worth the money we had already invested.

Another question is Arch Manning worth millions this morning? Or Ty Simpson? Both looked pretty average yesterday.
 
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EZE said:
You nailed it.

And I think he left a very good coach who has coached those intangibles successfully in others.
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The one thing I've wondered but not heard, is if his Dad was also "coaching" him on football, critiquing his performances. What would that do to a young man's learning curve, trying to please two masters? One thing I feel sure of: if Dad was, and Heupel knew about it, it's not something Heupel would let be known publicly. Not for a long time--or until Nico finds success.

Following everything your father says makes sense in a hunter/gatherer culture. It means you're always stacking experience on top of experience, accumulating and passing on a growing storehouse of knowledge, generation-to-generation. But once you leave that culture, that environment, for another...

I have no animus against Nico as a person or player. I honestly fear for what his life could easily become. Somehow, he's got to take the reins and chart his own way, whatever the field. And that could get pretty lonely for awhile.
 
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BruisedOrange said:
The one thing I've wondered but not heard, is if his Dad was also "coaching" him on football, critiquing his performances. What would that do to a young man's learning curve, trying to please two masters? One thing I feel sure of: if Dad was, and Heupel knew about it, it's not something Heupel would let be known publicly. Not for a long time--or until Nico finds success.

Following everything your father says makes sense in a hunter/gatherer culture. It means you're always stacking experience on top of experience, accumulating and passing on a growing storehouse of knowledge, generation-to-generation. But once you leave that culture, that environment, for another...

I have no animus against Nico as a person or player. I honestly fear for what his life could easily become. Somehow, he's got to take the reins and chart his own way, whatever the field. And that could get pretty lonely for awhile.
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This was a screw up of galactic proportions. I mean, seriously? He left football program at Tennessee with much better players and rabid fan support…for UCLA where no one cares. And for less money!
 
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orangemadam said:
I think Heuple wanted him pretty badly. If reports are true, UT
was willing to pay up to $3 million for Iama. That's not chicken feed.
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Heupel wanted continuity just like every other coach across the nation because it sets a bad precident but I seriously doubt that he thought he was irreplaceable.
 
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