Max Howell says "We will know in two weeks"

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The Max Howell comment came from the Harold "Bumo" Bugg (sp?) show. Doubt there is any audio clips from today. It is regional as they come, only northwest alabama and southern middle tennessee on 93.9 the score.

It was a rather short conversation, mainly because he said it so matter of fact without any hesitation. Now he didn't say who would be fired cause that is still TBD, but without hesitation said that he had 2 sources who said that we would find out in two weeks.
 
#52
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Two weeks is nonsense. Fulmer is done here, no need in waiting two weeks to know this.
 
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I know Coach Fulmer grew up a Vol and has a passion and love for UT. Saying that I do wish he could step down and maybe take an administrative job at the university. I think some new blood in the coaching staff might be what we need.
 
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Volstylexx said:
I'm still amazed at how quickly the Lane Kiffin bandwagon has formed.... hiring an unproven HC is not the answer for the future of Tennessee football. You guys throw around, Saban, Spurrier, and Carroll as proof that an inexperienced collegiate HC from the NFL can be the saving grace of a program. Aside from Carroll - Saban and Spurrier both had huge success at the college level prior to leaving to the NFL and then coming back. Look at Charlie Weis and ND... the hailed savior alongside touchdown Jesus. He's really brought that program back to national dominance hasn't he? Is Kiffin the right guy to compete in the toughest conference in college football? Think it's bad now... wait till we go through 5 years of rebuilding... and then have to hire a new coach bc of a dumb move now.
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I completely agree with you. Wouldn't we be better off waiting till the end of the season and trying to get Ventebles(sp?) from OU or even Peterson or Mendenhal? We need someone who has experience at the college level don't we?
 
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allvol123 said:
Two weeks is nonsense. Fulmer is done here, no need in waiting two weeks to know this.
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Let me guess -- you were saying the same thing last year after the Alabama game?

Fulmer's got powerful friends and a knack for winning big games when (and only when) his back is against the wall. Clearly he SHOULD be gone, but whether it actually happens or not is still very much up in the air. Beat UGA again somehow and he escapes.
 
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I hope we kick the crap out of GA. I wouldnt bet on that happening though. I also dont think phil will be gone in 2 weeks no matter what happens. I would support fulmer staying IF UT were able to do the following things. Win all the rest of the reg season games. Go to the SECCG and win. Then win in the Sugar Bowl. I probably have a better chance of winning the lottery than all that happening but for me thats what it would take.
 
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allvol123 said:
So you believe he is not done?
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I don't think he's done yet. He's clearly in the casket, and maybe the casket has been lowered down in the ground, but I think we're going to have to be embarrassed a couple more times for the dirt to start being shoveled over him. Remember how the pressure on Fulmer just magically dissipated last year when we beat up on UGA? It could happen again.

Remember, the people who will be deciding Fulmer's fate don't WANT to get rid of him. If they see progress -- however relative and minuscule -- then they're going to want to chalk it up to one bad quarterback, a new offensive system, etc. etc., and give Fulmer yet another year. It's going to take losing to UGA or Bama by 30, losing to Vandy or Kentucky, that sort of thing to force these guys to make a change. Probably more than one of those things.
 
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EZE said:
You cannot fire Fulmer in the middle of the season. Make the announcement, yes. Start the search, absolutely. Announce the new coach, probably should wait until the season ends.

I am as unhappy as the next person, but the man at least deserves to finish out the season.
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I don't think Fulmer will be "fired" midseason...and, I don't think a new coach will be announced until the season is officially over. But, I can definitely see Fulmer announcing his retirement after the Georgia game.

Think about it...The fan base is done with him, and attendance for NIU is going to be the lowest that Neyland has seen in years...it'll only continue to get worse week after week...unless, of course, Phil announces that this will be his last season as UT's head coach.

If the fans know that change is coming, they'll pile into Neyland in droves to support Fulmer during his last few games. There'd be nothing to boo about - the fans would have what they've been asking for, and they'd rally around Phil to support him on his way out.

Having him announce his "retirement" at midseason would be the only way to salvage what's left of this season without it being any more humiliating for Fulmer, the university, and the fans.
 
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Vercingetorix said:
I don't think he's done yet. He's clearly in the casket, and maybe the casket has been lowered down in the ground, but I think we're going to have to be embarrassed a couple more times for the dirt to start being shoveled over him. Remember how the pressure on Fulmer just magically dissipated last year when we beat up on UGA? It could happen again.

Remember, the people who will be deciding Fulmer's fate don't WANT to get rid of him. If they see progress -- however relative and minuscule -- then they're going to want to chalk it up to one bad quarterback, a new offensive system, etc. etc., and give Fulmer yet another year. It's going to take losing to UGA or Bama by 30, losing to Vandy or Kentucky, that sort of thing to force these guys to make a change. Probably more than one of those things.
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He got out of those situations with wins. I am extremely pessimistic he gets those types of wins this year.

If Crompton is the best QB we have, I surely do not see those wins coming. And I see him being done.

If Stephens or Coleman turn out to be better and they get some wins for him, it makes him look like the poor coach he is. Given how bad Crompton has been if it takes until the 5th or 6th game of the year for Fulmer to figure this out, that looks really bad on him. That being said, wins are wins, and if a QB change brings some then yes he stands a chance. I for one do not see him making it though. I cannot remember my exact stance on his future after the Bama game last year but I do not think I was sold on him being gone.
 
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Smokey1 said:
I think, for starters, CPF will resign at the requesting of Hamilton...I don't see him getting fired. I think he loves the program too much. I also think he'll get to coach out the rest of the season...he's earned that much. I do hope it happens this year, though.
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Who is (or has) suggesting that he be fired and not finish the season? :dunno:
 
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Grateful Vol said:
I don't know if folks up in Tennessee have the pleasure of listening to the Max Howell show. His show was formally broadcasted from Destin, FL and has since moved to Jackson, MS. Unfortunately for me, we no longer receive it where I live but he was on a local sports show today and was asked about UT.

If you have listened to Max before, you know that he is as non-biased as they come. You will also know that he was an assistant at both Ole Miss and Florida State before going into radio. Max isn't one to ruffle feathers, nor is he very interested in breaking stories at the expense of his sources.

So take it for what its worth, but he said he has heard from 2 sources close to UT that Volnation will know the future of our coaches in two weeks. If things don't get better he said the firings may likely go all the way to the top (Fulmer, maybe Hamilton?). UGA could be the deciding factor, but the news should be here before BAMA rolls into town.
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Boomo Bugg show?
 
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allvol123 said:
He got out of those situations with wins. I am extremely pessimistic he gets those types of wins this year.

If Crompton is the best QB we have, I surely do not see those wins coming. And I see him being done.

If Stephens or Coleman turn out to be better and they get some wins for him, it makes him look like the poor coach he is. Given how bad Crompton has been if it takes until the 5th or 6th game of the year for Fulmer to figure this out, that looks really bad on him. That being said, wins are wins, and if a QB change brings some then yes he stands a chance. I for one do not see him making it though. I cannot remember my exact stance on his future after the Bama game last year but I do not think I was sold on him being gone.
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I hope you're right. I'll just believe it when I see it. I remember sitting in a bar in 2002 arguing that Fulmer was going to have to go, and here we are six years later in the same position. At this point I'll just keep expecting him to keep squirming out of it until the hammer actually falls.
 
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Vercingetorix said:
I hope you're right. I'll just believe it when I see it. I remember sitting in a bar in 2002 arguing that Fulmer was going to have to go, and here we are six years later in the same position. At this point I'll just keep expecting him to keep squirming out of it until the hammer actually falls.
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Your skepticism is completely understandable. The man has seemed to slip out of the noose several times.
 
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It wouldn't be as annoying if he actually did much to slip out of the noose. But last year he beat one good team and had the football bounce his way for the entire month of November and somehow it was like 59-20 and 41-17 hadn't happened. We clearly weren't very good but still: raise, extension.

Expectations now are so low that just about ANYTHING will be seen as progress, and the boosters will probably seize upon any sign of progress as a reason to give him another year to turn things around. (Again.) New QB, new OC. I honestly think it's going to take 5-7 or worse to force him out.
 
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Vercingetorix said:
It wouldn't be as annoying if he actually did much to slip out of the noose. But last year he beat one good team and had the football bounce his way for the entire month of November and somehow it was like 59-20 and 41-17 hadn't happened. We clearly weren't very good but still: raise, extension.

Expectations now are so low that just about ANYTHING will be seen as progress, and the boosters will probably seize upon any sign of progress as a reason to give him another year to turn things around. (Again.) New QB, new OC. I honestly think it's going to take 5-7 or worse to force him out.
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Not disagreeing, but why do you think that is? We hear time and again that the boosters are growing impatient. Why would they want to prolong it if they didn't have to?
 
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I think a lot of the fans are flat out sick of Fulmer, have been for several years. If the elitists do some how keep him around, there will be a witch hunt. Think the gas gouging was bad?
 
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volmanbill said:
Not disagreeing, but why do you think that is? We hear time and again that the boosters are growing impatient. Why would they want to prolong it if they didn't have to?
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Human nature. These guys are all Fulmer's personal friends; he's been there forever; he really wants that all-time UT wins record; he clearly still feels like he's got the fire and the energy and the ability to get the job done. It's going to be really, really difficult for whoever has to call him into that meeting and break it to him that it's over.

Thus, if there's anything at all you can point to as progress, you hang your hat on it and push the inevitable a little further off. Look what happened last year -- anybody who was paying attention knows that UT was not a particularly good team last year, and that we were incandescently lucky to find ourselves in Atlanta, but what happened? Raise, extension. Cross your fingers and let's see what happens next year.
 
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