Matt Campbell beat Butch

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I'm going to bump this. I think this would be a great hire. What he's doing just 1 year into a TOUGH job at Iowa State is very impressive.

I know he's got a large buyout, but like what has been said before, that kind of stuff can be worked with/around.
 
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Would love to have but I don’t think he’ll move anytime soon


“Campbell, in an interview with the Des Moines Register, recently assured Iowa State fans that he's not eyeing an exit.”
 
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I want a coach that can go 12 and 0 every season and win the National Championship every other year.
 
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The main knock on Campbell is he has two great......GREAT wins.......but not really anything else.

He is young.....which is a plus
He will have 2 years P5 exp......plus
He seems to be motivated and a motivator....plus
He steps up to the challenge.....plus

He doesn't have a great coaching resume
He hasn't coached under the greats
6 seasons as a HC and only 1 good one.....9-2 at Toledo

You never want to hire a coach based off of one game.....or even two. He has not coached anywhere that has mattered.....ever even as a GA (MT Union is great but division 3). There is just no substance there. Sure he might become a great coach.....but for now there is nothing there.
 
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UTwild82 said:
I'm going to bump this. I think this would be a great hire. What he's doing just 1 year into a TOUGH job at Iowa State is very impressive.

I know he's got a large buyout, but like what has been said before, that kind of stuff can be worked with/around.
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2 years into.....but no matter really.

Just explain why he would be a good hire for Tennessee.
Where has he been, what has he done, who has he learned from, does he have some great or unique D or O? Give us something......and I know he has two great wins......but that is only 2 games and out of 6 seasons as a HC.
 
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JoAllan said:
The main knock on Campbell is he has two great......GREAT wins.......but not really anything else.

He is young.....which is a plus
He will have 2 years P5 exp......plus
He seems to be motivated and a motivator....plus
He steps up to the challenge.....plus

He doesn't have a great coaching resume
He hasn't coached under the greats
6 seasons as a HC and only 1 good one.....9-2 at Toledo

You never want to hire a coach based off of one game.....or even two. He has not coached anywhere that has mattered.....ever even as a GA (MT Union is great but division 3). There is just no substance there. Sure he might become a great coach.....but for now there is nothing there.
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Nick Saban didn't coach under any greats at Toledo or have a great resume while there, things worked out pretty well for him. Same thing with Urban Meyer when he coached at another Mac School. No substance on their resumes, both national championship winners. Your points are absolutely ridiculous.
 
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Bbear44 said:
Nick Saban didn't coach under any greats at Toledo or have a great resume while there, things worked out pretty well for him. Same thing with Urban Meyer when he coached at another Mac School. No substance on their resumes, both national championship winners. Your points are absolutely ridiculous.
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Maybe just maybe you might want to know what you are talking about before trying to undermine someone else's points.

Saban coached for 27 years before going to LSU, he also coached at 4 power schools before becoming the HC at Mich ST. Saban also coached for the Huston Oilers & the Browns.........that is a powerful resume.....not to mention everyone knew he was a great D coach.

Urban learned at Ohio ST & coached at Notre Dame. Urban was 8-3 & 9-3 at BG. Then at Utah he went 10-2 and 12-0 finishing #4 in the country at.........Utah........not to mention he had a great offense.

WOW

You come at me with a fallacy.......but no matter I turn that fallacy on its head.
 
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JoAllan said:
Maybe just maybe you might want to know what you are talking about before trying to undermine someone else's points.

Saban coached for 27 years before going to LSU, he also coached at 4 power schools before becoming the HC at Mich ST. Saban also coached for the Huston Oilers & the Browns.........that is a powerful resume.....not to mention everyone knew he was a great D coach.

Urban learned at Ohio ST & coached at Notre Dame. Urban was 8-3 & 9-3 at BG. Then at Utah he went 10-2 and 12-0 finishing #4 in the country at.........Utah........not to mention he had a great offense.

WOW

You come at me with a fallacy.......but no matter I turn that fallacy on its head.
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Name one big time coach that didn't start at a small program or as a coordinator and start off with a not so impressive resume? Please educate me with your infinite wisdom
 
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Bbear44 said:
Name one big time coach that didn't start at a small program or as a coordinator and start off with a not so impressive resume? Please educate me with your infinite wisdom
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OK for the sake of argument let's say that all coaches start at a small school as a position coach.

However then those coaches improve their resume until they land that "big time" job.

What I am saying is Campbell has yet to do that......for say a job at Tennessee.

Campbell played at small schools, he didn't learn from the best or even D1 coaches. Campbell got his 1st HC job at Toledo.....where he was Ok but only had 1 good season. Campbell went to ISU and they went 3-9 & are now 6-4. While they did beat two very good teams.....they also lost games they should not have.

I have laid out the resume....I don't think it is very impressive at all (not saying he isn't a good coach...not saying he won't one day have an awesome resume).

Can you show me where his resume is impressive? Show how it is the type that should land the Tennessee job.

Campbell is or seems to be a much better coach than Butch Jones; however Butch's resume was better when he came to Tennessee than Campbell's is right now.
 
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JoAllan said:
2 years into.....but no matter really.

Just explain why he would be a good hire for Tennessee.
Where has he been, what has he done, who has he learned from, does he have some great or unique D or O? Give us something......and I know he has two great wins......but that is only 2 games and out of 6 seasons as a HC.
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Those 2 wins are absolutely better than anything Dan Mullen has done. This guy, in his short career, has made each school better than before. And Iowa State is a worse job than Mississippi State. Not quite a year? I get concern. But this guy is a rock star. We need a guy who can win, not just win the press conference.
 
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UTwild82 said:
Those 2 wins are absolutely better than anything Dan Mullen has done. This guy, in his short career, has made each school better than before. And Iowa State is a worse job than Mississippi State. Not quite a year? I get concern. But this guy is a rock star. We need a guy who can win, not just win the press conference.
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I am not defending Mullen. I'm just saying I don't see the resume maybe like you or some others do.

To me 9-4, 7-5, 9-4, and 9-2 at Toledo
Then 3-9, and 6-4 at ISU
Is not enough of a resume. If he had maybe 20 years exp with several in power schools. Maybe if he had learned under great coaches, maybe if he had some unique schemes or something.

Right now Campbell is just a young coach who had a good season at Toledo and beat two good teams at ISU. Nothing else.

The year before Campbell became HC at Toledo they were 9-4, the year after he left they were 9-4...... Pretty much what Campbell did there.

Again not saying he is a bad coach and not even saying he won't be a rock star.....just saying nothing says that he is that "rock star" right now.

If I'm wrong (and I am all the time) just show me what I am missing. I mean surely just one 9-2 season at Toledo and winning 2 games at ISU is that.
 
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How many couches would be burned in the following areas if Tennessee hired him?

1. Dandridge
2. Crossville
3. Jackson
4. The Fort
5. Cleveland
 
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I heard Jimmy Hyams say on the radio that Currie interviewed someone in Chicago and that it was possibly Matt Campbell.
 
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