Margin is a stat of the past

#27
#27
BruinVol said:
I keep seeing posters talking about the margin of our losses as if that stat has been a true consistent indicator over the course of history.

watching the playoffs should have made us realize that discussing that stat really doesn’t matter anymore.


I did some research to prove my point and how much the game has just changed over the the short time period of 5 years.

2015:
SEC games only
Ave point diff was 14 pts
34% of games were decided by 7 pts or less
26% of games were decided by 20 or more pts


2020 :
SEC games only
Ave point diff was 18.5 pts
23% of games were decided by 7 pts or less
45% of games were decided by 20 or more pts



So as we discuss what’s makes next year a successful season I think it’s time we stop even discussing margin of games we might lose. It’s w\Ls that matter and it’s just a fact that nearly half of all SEC games are now going to be 20pt blowouts.
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Okay, I’ll give you your point.

How do you spin a .300 winning percentage?
 
#30
#30
BruinVol said:
I keep seeing posters talking about the margin of our losses as if that stat has been a true consistent indicator over the course of history.

watching the playoffs should have made us realize that discussing that stat really doesn’t matter anymore.


I did some research to prove my point and how much the game has just changed over the the short time period of 5 years.

2015:
SEC games only
Ave point diff was 14 pts
34% of games were decided by 7 pts or less
26% of games were decided by 20 or more pts


2020 :
SEC games only
Ave point diff was 18.5 pts
23% of games were decided by 7 pts or less
45% of games were decided by 20 or more pts



So as we discuss what’s makes next year a successful season I think it’s time we stop even discussing margin of games we might lose. It’s w\Ls that matter and it’s just a fact that nearly half of all SEC games are now going to be 20pt blowouts.
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If we were talking about a couple of games to elite opponents then you might have a point. We're not. UT was non-competitive in 7 games and at least two of those games to inferior rosters.

Also, UT's losses weren't just a product of playmaking or playcalling. They were primarily the product of an "old school" philosophy of play that Pruitt refuses to let go of.
 
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#31
Lol, this is classic defining deviancy down type nonsense. We suck and our coach is horrible, that can't be explained away, no matter how hard is tried.

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sjt18 said:
If we were talking about a couple of games to elite opponents then you might have a point. We're not. UT was non-competitive in 7 games and at least two of those games to inferior rosters.

Also, UT's losses weren't just a product of playmaking or playcalling. They were primarily the product of an "old school" philosophy of play that Pruitt refuses to let go of.
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Man, you just keep trying to:

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#33
#33
BruinVol said:
I keep seeing posters talking about the margin of our losses as if that stat has been a true consistent indicator over the course of history.

watching the playoffs should have made us realize that discussing that stat really doesn’t matter anymore.


I did some research to prove my point and how much the game has just changed over the the short time period of 5 years.

2015:
SEC games only
Ave point diff was 14 pts
34% of games were decided by 7 pts or less
26% of games were decided by 20 or more pts


2020 :
SEC games only
Ave point diff was 18.5 pts
23% of games were decided by 7 pts or less
45% of games were decided by 20 or more pts



So as we discuss what’s makes next year a successful season I think it’s time we stop even discussing margin of games we might lose. It’s w\Ls that matter and it’s just a fact that nearly half of all SEC games are now going to be 20pt blowouts.
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Margin still matters to gamblers, LOL!

Bruin, appreciate your research. Wish I had a dollar for every comment I’ve seen or heard about Pruitt’s double digit or +20 losses. It’s become one of the favorite comments for The Legion. No doubt a lot of these comments are made by the same folks who ridicule people who point out “moral victories”.

The % of high margin games are going up as points scored are increasing. But I still want my Vols being competitive in every loss, and battling til the end. We didn’t see that competitiveness in 2020, and that’s a big ol red flag.

Also, I like Mojo’s thoughts on this: how long was the game in doubt, not just final margin.
 
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#34
#34
Quit lying to yourself. This program isn’t competitive with many middle of the road teams in our league. Forget the big boys.
 
#36
#36
BruinVol said:
I keep seeing posters talking about the margin of our losses as if that stat has been a true consistent indicator over the course of history.

watching the playoffs should have made us realize that discussing that stat really doesn’t matter anymore.


I did some research to prove my point and how much the game has just changed over the the short time period of 5 years.

2015:
SEC games only
Ave point diff was 14 pts
34% of games were decided by 7 pts or less
26% of games were decided by 20 or more pts


2020 :
SEC games only
Ave point diff was 18.5 pts
23% of games were decided by 7 pts or less
45% of games were decided by 20 or more pts



So as we discuss what’s makes next year a successful season I think it’s time we stop even discussing margin of games we might lose. It’s w\Ls that matter and it’s just a fact that nearly half of all SEC games are now going to be 20pt blowouts.
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You are partially correct. Wins and losses are what ultimately matter. However, margin of defeat is typically a good indicator of how a team is progressing especially for the Vols since we are on that eternal rebuild loved by the UT AD. Would you rather see blow out losses to Bama, UF, or UGA or close losses decided late in the games? The close losses give coaches something to build on much more than a 30-point beatdown. For instance, it is easier for a coach to point to a couple of mistakes in a tight game that resulted in a loss and how to correct the errors moving forward. The blowout losses mean we are not competing the way we should. In UT’s case the poor showings reflect poor coaching & an inability to compete from Pruitt.
 
#37
#37
Margins can be deceiving but I can only think of maybe one game that the margin was not indicative of how uncompetitive we were. And I can offset that by saying the Florida game looked closer than it was because of late garbage points. It also doesn’t take into consideration teams like Bama calling off the dogs.

We were not competitive
 
#38
#38
VaBornVol said:
To your point, Florida players were writing their Instagram handles on the team whiteboards, flirting with girls in the stands while Tennessee put up two last minute trash touchdowns. Otherwise we loose that one by 24
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I was at the game, it was boys.
 
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