Man dies from spontaneous combustion

#26
#26
Sure it isn't static electricity that ignites a spark? If that's the case, then it's not spontaneous.
 
#29
#29
I'm speaking on round bales. Not square bales. Square bales will get hot but aren't as insulated as round bales and heat escapes
 
#30
#30
Obsessed said:
It can. But not necessary. Hay when baled green is hot. We have broke some open and they almost ignite instantly as soon as air hits them.

Over the years we have lost cotton just the same. In the winter during picking time I'd take my girl to the farm. Climb up in the trailer. Roll back some cotton to lay on and it would be 80-90 degrees. We would lay there and look at the stars.
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lay there and look at the stars :eek:lol: yeah, sure you would :question:
 
#39
#39
Obsessed said:
It was reported this morning he is a heavy drinker. Maybe it contributed.

I saw pics of the inside of his house. There were obvious signs of fire in his home. But he was charred up more so
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Original article posted said there was no fire damage to the house.

This is some terrible reporting on their part. :)

Now it sounds like the man tried to commit suicide by dousing himself with something flammable and lighting himself on fire that or someone else did it to him. He probably ran around the house in a panic accidently burning things on his way out. Guess he should have put up some doggy gates.

Here's something interesting.
Did you know that just before someone freezes to death they take off all their clothes?
 
#42
#42
golfballs said:
It's impossible for it to be "spontaneous"

Something has to trigger it
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Spontaneous implies no external fuel or ignition source, IMO.

It's certainly possible for something to get hot enough to reach its ignition point. I'm not sure where the hangup is.
 
#43
#43
A guy spontaneously combusted after eating some of my hot chili and drinking beer I brewed with jalapenos. True story.
 
#45
#45
Thrasher865 said:
Spontaneous implies no external fuel or ignition source, IMO.

It's certainly possible for something to get hot enough to reach its ignition point. I'm not sure where the hangup is.
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It takes energy to create heat and therefore is not spontaneous.
 
#48
#48
Obsessed said:
Energy to create heat. That's true. Stick your hand in a green bale of grass. You will feel the energy. And it will burn Literally
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It's not hot "on its own." It's hot because of the respiration of bacteria inside, feeding off the moisture. Living things give off heat. As the outer layers of the bale (or compost pile) dry out, they act as insulation, keeping the heat inside and making it hotter. Thus the fire hazard. The energy is not just coming out of the grass, out of nowhere, any more than people burst into flames for no reason.
 
#49
#49
VOLatile said:
It takes energy to create heat and therefore is not spontaneous.
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If the heat is created from within the system, I would consider it spontaneous. You're just being a pedant at this point.

It's a word to describe a phenomenon that's foreign to the layman. Bale of hay is sitting there. Bale of hay heats up and catches on fire without a spark, etc. Arguing over the meaning of the term "spontaneous combustion" is silly.

If bacteria inside the human body created enough heat to make someone catch on fire, I would call that "spontaneous combustion." I just don't think anything like that ever really happens.
 
#50
#50
Thrasher865 said:
If the heat is created from within the system, I would consider it spontaneous. You're just being a pedant at this point.

It's a word to describe a phenomenon that's foreign to the layman. Bale of hay is sitting there. Bale of hay heats up and catches on fire without a spark, etc. Arguing over the meaning of the term "spontaneous combustion" is silly.

If bacteria inside the human body created enough heat to make someone catch on fire, I would call that "spontaneous combustion." I just don't think anything like that ever really happens.
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Human body? Probably not.

Bale of hay? Yes. Very probable. I've seen it. I've opened bales up and so hot you couldn't touch it and was smoking and smoldering.
 
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