Majors speaks his mind on Finebaum

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m1al said:
Not disagreeing with anything he said just that he said it at all and especially the venue he chose...

As far as UT beeing lucky in '98.... well duhh. Any team that whens a NC has had luck go their way during the season. Not saying the best team (most of the time) doesn't win it but luck definately plays a role.
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Majors was in Birmingham on a speaking engagement, knows PF from Paul's days as editor of the ORANGE and WHITE ---so an interview was only natural. FB is a UT grad.

The statement about luck involved in the 98 NC was--from the tone I preceived---an indictment on Fulmer's coaching ability.
 
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KYSkipper said:
Majors was at Pitt in 1976, what's that got to do with Tennessee firing him?



I believe they tried their dead level best to do so. However it didn't work out. Majors wanted to get back in the saddle post haste and he did.



Johnny Majors and Phillip Fulmer are both Tennessee guys who did good jobs for the University and the program in their own way. Johnny Majors was the best recruiter Tennessee has ever had. Phillip sucked at recruiting. Johnny Majors had a tendency to take a team (ours) that was 4 times better than the opponent talent wise and come out in the game with a scheme we were unfamiliar with in an attempt to stop whatever strength the opponent had. He wasn't the best game coach. If you've got the talent, do what you do best and if they can stop that, you've done all you can do. Fulmer on the other hand was a better game coach. Later in his career he didn't have the talent to run his game against superior opponents because again, he sucked at recruiting.
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Fulmer sucking at recruiting isn't true. He slacked off at the end of his career, but he was one of the best when he put the effort into it.
 
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BigOrangePassion1 said:
He should be happy they let him come back and coach the 92 season over an undefeated fulmer. That was a national championship caliber team until he showed up.
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I agree with you.We were picked 3rd in the east that year.Fulmer in three weeks beat two top 5 teams in georgia and florida.I went to the Georgia game. That was Shulers first big road game.I think the final score was 34-31.Georgia had Garrison Hearst,Andre Hastings,Eric Zier,and Ray Goof was the coach.
 
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...It happens again, and again, and again, Finebaum lights the fire, Vol fans shovel on the coal, and the bammers roll on the floor! :eek:k:
 
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ridethelightening said:
He takes away from the accomplishment of winning the NC in '98 by a school he dearly loves because he is bitter towards the coach of the team.

Sad!
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Exactly. Not sure who Johnny is trying to sway. Everyone knows the story how he got booted. Everyone knows how we won the NC (and yes, it definitely takes a little luck along the way to win the NC, but you create your own luck). Just shut up and be contrite Johnny. No one likes sour grapes, especially 20 years of it. You don't have to let it go, just stop reminding us. I would rather remember you as a UT legend, not a bitter old man. Everyone has to move aside sometime.
 
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KYSkipper said:
Majors was at Pitt in 1976, what's that got to do with Tennessee firing him?



I believe they tried their dead level best to do so. However it didn't work out. Majors wanted to get back in the saddle post haste and he did.



Johnny Majors and Phillip Fulmer are both Tennessee guys who did good jobs for the University and the program in their own way. Johnny Majors was the best recruiter Tennessee has ever had. Phillip sucked at recruiting. Johnny Majors had a tendency to take a team (ours) that was 4 times better than the opponent talent wise and come out in the game with a scheme we were unfamiliar with in an attempt to stop whatever strength the opponent had. He wasn't the best game coach. If you've got the talent, do what you do best and if they can stop that, you've done all you can do. Fulmer on the other hand was a better game coach. Later in his career he didn't have the talent to run his game against superior opponents because again, he sucked at recruiting.
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As Larry the cable guy would say "Now that's funny right there, I don'y care who you are" :lolabove: :lolabove:
 
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Nope sorry, can't like this interview. Anything with a compliment like that for Lane "the breck girl" Kiffin just boils my blood
 
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JohnWardForever said:
Finebaum had Johnny on yesterday, John had just gotten off the golf course; probably had a couple, and let 'er rip. Some of the statements-------

Said UT was coming off the best four years in a row when he was let go.
Called former UT Pres. Joe Johnson a redneck that was jealous of Majors.
Said that Johnson, Fulmer and Dickey were behind his ouster---with a couple more unnamed
Said that UT football had been going down for a long while, and if not for Chavis would have hit bottom long ago.
Said Tennessee was lucky to win the NC in 98---had a lot of breaks go their way.
Doesn't think he and Phil will be visiting anytime soon.
Liked Kiffin, said that staff did the best coaching job he had ever seen last year at Bama--said Lane and Monte were great at utilizing what talent they had--also said LK was a superb play caller. And great with Crompton.
Doesn't blame CLK for "going home"
Thinks Dooley is Smart, nice looking and has the goods to be successful at UT---but must be given time.
Said Vince was a good coach, not great---beat people because he had better players---(Read between the lines-- Herschel) he even mentioned 1980.

Johnny Majors is as ticked as ever.
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16 seasons (can't say he didn't have plenty of time), .645 winning percentage (that equates to an average betwen 7-5 and 8-4), 4-12 against Alabama, including losing all 4 during those "best four years in a row."

Majors and Fulmer should both be respected parts of UT's football history, but I sure wish they'd both go away.
 
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volmanbill said:
The same could be said for every team that's ever won the MNC.
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Exactly.

Two loss LSU needed some luck to get a NC bid.

Texas needed Reggie Bush to make a stupid pitch, a 4th and 1 stop and touchdown on 4th and 5 to win.

I know it's NFL but how about a last second tip toe touchdown for the Steelers or the Giants catch on 4th and ridiculous.

Somewhere along the way teams need some luck.
 
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The_Orange_Pearl said:
Exactly.

Two loss LSU needed some luck to get a NC bid.

Texas needed Reggie Bush to make a stupid pitch, a 4th and 1 stop and touchdown on 4th and 5 to win.

I know it's NFL but how about a last second tip toe touchdown for the Steelers or the Giants catch on 4th and ridiculous.

Somewhere along the way teams need some luck.
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don't forget VY's pitch when his knee was clearly on the ground
 
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Major was a hard coach to work for. Fulmer and all the coaches were leaving at the end of the season. Something had to be done and getting rid of Majors was the best solution. I think Fulmer was going to go to Clemson, I am not sure. Its been a long time.
 
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I find it very odd all the love for Johnny vs. the hate for Fulmer. Is it because of the difference in time? The Fulmer deal is still fresh? Is it the way they went out? Johnny was forced out just like Fulmer was forced out. Maybe Johnny was forced out prematurely but if he took the job today, most of you would be crying because it took him 5 years to win 8 games in a season.

All very interesting.
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Nashvol2 said:
I find it very odd all the love for Johnny vs. the hate for Fulmer. Is it because of the difference in time? The Fulmer deal is still fresh? Is it the way they went out? Johnny was forced out just like Fulmer was forced out. Maybe Johnny was forced out prematurely but if he took the job today, most of you would be crying because it took him 5 years to win 8 games in a season.

All very interesting.
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Said that Johnson, Fulmer and Dickey were behind his ouster
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Because most feel like Phil got the job the same way Johnny does. He stabbed Majors in the back for self gain and to take his job. Nobody screwed over Fulmer, he simply failed on his own. He was satisfied with his 8 win seasons (and apparently the two 5 win seasons) even though the program was declining.
 
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VolsFanRJ said:
Because most feel like Phil got the job the same way Johnny does. He stabbed Majors in the back for self gain and to take his job. Nobody screwed over Fulmer, he simply failed on his own. He was satisfied with his 8 win seasons (and apparently the two 5 win seasons) even though the program was declining.
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Did he tell you that?

Wanting to continue coaching doesn't mean he was happy with the records he was producing.

Lots of people praise Crompton now for never quitting but Fulmer is attacked for the same thing. Weird.
 
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The_Orange_Pearl said:
Did he tell you that?

Wanting to continue coaching doesn't mean he was happy with the records he was producing.

Lots of people praise Crompton now for never quitting but Fulmer is attacked for the same thing. Weird.
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Well he sure didn't step down when it was obvious he was going backwards. He had his eyes set on those 200 wins more than he had them on building UT's program back. He seemed pretty happy though. I would have to, if I was getting over $2 mill a year and a raise every time I won 8 games. Sure, why not.
 
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VolsFanRJ said:
Well he sure didn't step down when it was obvious he was going backwards. He had his eyes set on those 200 wins more than he had them on building UT's program back. He seemed pretty happy though. I would have to, if I was getting over $2 mill a year and a raise every time I won 8 games. Sure, why not.
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That's what I was saying about Crompton. He should have quit after his junior season then. He got worse up until that point.

It's not like Fulmer wasn't trying. His top 3 recruiting class was a dud and the additions of Meyer/Saban made things more difficult. He also brought in a new offensive coordinator to change things up and that was a failure.

I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree. I don't think Fulmer was content with winning 8 games a season. If he was, then it would toss out the theory that he only wanted 200 wins. Mark Richt might get fired and he wins 10 games a year. Fulmer wasn't going to get to 200 by winning 8 games a year. He isn't stupid.
 
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VolsFanRJ said:
Because most feel like Phil got the job the same way Johnny does. He stabbed Majors in the back for self gain and to take his job. Nobody screwed over Fulmer, he simply failed on his own. He was satisfied with his 8 win seasons (and apparently the two 5 win seasons) even though the program was declining.
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How did Fulmer back stab him please explain this to me.From what i read and noticed is Majors came back way to early from his medical leave.He was Jealous because Fulmer got more from a team that was picked third in the east than he would have.Fulmer beat 2 top 5 teams in a 3 or 4 week period.Georgia and Florida were the teams he beat as interim coach.I don't get the Back stabbing thing.If Drunk ASS JOHNNY WOULD HAVE TOOK THE YEAR OFF HE WOULD HAVE STILL BEEN TENNESSEE'S COACH IN 93.SO PLEASE EXPLAIN THE BACK STABBING THING.:banghead2::realmad:
 
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I never said anything about Crompton. There was a time I wish he had quit. He was awful, but comparing a coach making over $2mill a year which is his job, to a kid playing football, doing the best he could because the coaches kept putting him in there is a little much. I'll agree with you on one thing though. We will just have to agree to disagree. :)
 
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oldsmokey67 said:
How did Fulmer back stab him please explain this to me.From what i read and noticed is Majors came back way to early from his medical leave.He was Jealous because Fulmer got more from a team that was picked third in the east than he would have.Fulmer beat 2 top 5 teams in a 3 or 4 week period.Georgia and Florida were the teams he beat as interim coach.I don't get the Back stabbing thing.If Drunk ASS JOHNNY WOULD HAVE TOOK THE YEAR OFF HE WOULD HAVE STILL BEEN TENNESSEE'S COACH IN 93.SO PLEASE EXPLAIN THE BACK STABBING THING.:banghead2::realmad:
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I read and article a while back when Majors spoke out. I wish I could find it. He talked about telling Fulmer stuff that was confidential that got back to Dickey. He also said Dickey told him he had a 7 year contract waiting for him on his desk to sign which never happened and never was mentioned again. If Johnny says Fulmer was one of the reasons for his ouster, then he knows something, IMO.
 
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JohnWardForever said:
Finebaum had Johnny on yesterday, John had just gotten off the golf course; probably had a couple, and let 'er rip. Some of the statements-------

Said UT was coming off the best four years in a row when he was let go.
Called former UT Pres. Joe Johnson a redneck that was jealous of Majors.
Said that Johnson, Fulmer and Dickey were behind his ouster---with a couple more unnamed
Said that UT football had been going down for a long while, and if not for Chavis would have hit bottom long ago.
Said Tennessee was lucky to win the NC in 98---had a lot of breaks go their way.
Doesn't think he and Phil will be visiting anytime soon.
Liked Kiffin, said that staff did the best coaching job he had ever seen last year at Bama--said Lane and Monte were great at utilizing what talent they had--also said LK was a superb play caller. And great with Crompton.
Doesn't blame CLK for "going home"
Thinks Dooley is Smart, nice looking and has the goods to be successful at UT---but must be given time.
Said Vince was a good coach, not great---beat people because he had better players---(Read between the lines-- Herschel) he even mentioned 1980.

Johnny Majors is as ticked as ever.
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As he should be.
 
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