LSU is trying to be like us (firing Kelly for cause)

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As dumb as this makes them look, Kelly files suit, says LSU seeking 'for cause' firing LSU is trying to get out from under the $53+ million buyout.

This after they tried to negotiate a lower buyout. Add to that, they continuously state his firing was due to on field performance. The difference is we got out of a $10 million deal and they are stuck with almost $54 million.

It’s funny now but glad Pruitt was caught doing what he did.
 
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#1fulmerite said:
As dumb as this makes them look, Kelly files suit, says LSU seeking 'for cause' firing LSU is trying to get out from under the $53+ million buyout.

This after they tried to negotiate a lower buyout. Add to that, they continuously state his firing was due to on field performance. The difference is we got out of a $10 million deal and they are stuck with almost $54 million.

It’s funny now but glad Pruitt was caught doing what he did.
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Larry David could make another $100m writing and show running a Curb Your Enthusiasm type show about SEC coaching hires/fires
 
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And the funny thing is, they don't have to win. Anywhere. They just have to convince Kelly that the legal process will be so slow and painful (and it absolutely can be) as to make it worth settling for a fraction of the contract amount.

Highway robbery is legal if you use the law as your lever.

Go Vols!
 
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VFL-82-JP said:
And the funny thing is, they don't have to win. Anywhere. They just have to convince Kelly that the legal process will be so slow and painful (and it absolutely can be) as to make it worth settling for a fraction of the contract amount.

Highway robbery is legal if you use the law as your lever.

Go Vols!
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How is it any less highway robbery than universities paying out millions and millions in "failure money" to unsuccessful coaches?
 
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Brave Volunteer said:
How is it any less highway robbery than universities paying out millions and millions in "failure money" to unsuccessful coaches?
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Don't misunderstand me: I'm no huge fan of Kelly. Or of LSU. I have no dog in this fight.

But to answer your question, it is VERY different. Any time two people or organizations reach an agreement, and shake hands on it, they should both be willing to honor their agreement. Kelly should. LSU should. But LSU is trying to avoid keeping their word.

To rail against the huge amounts included in contracts these days is one thing. I'm with you there. It's kind of obscene (then again, we fans are the ones enabling that). But set the amounts involved aside, because they are not part of the point I'm making. If LSU didn't want to have to pay tens of millions of $$, they should've made that decision when negotiating the contract.

But now it's a signed agreement. LSU don't like how the coach they hired has turned out. Fine. Pay him as they agreed, and move on to someone else. That would be the right thing to do.

I'd be arguing just as strongly in the other direction if Kelly were the one trying to break his word.

Go Vols!
 
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Brave Volunteer said:
How is it any less highway robbery than universities paying out millions and millions in "failure money" to unsuccessful coaches?
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This isn't a failed coach scenario. While Kelly didn't win a NC or SEC Championship he was hardly a failure.

If the universities don't want to pay the buyout, then they shouldn't have agreed to in the contract.
 
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Because the university offered the buyout in the first place and then decided to fire him. How is this a serious question?
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Sorry, it was meant to be more "tongue-in-cheek" than anything. Its not the coach's fault these universities offer these ridiculous contracts. In fact, I guarantee you most of these coaches would still do it for a fraction of what they get paid.
 
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LSU is playing a dangerous game. The type a presiding judge may really frown on.

The decider will be if Kelly received his standard pay and compensation during this weird 'interim' period since the announcement by the AD of Kelly's termination that admin is trying a takesy-backsy.
"We had high hopes that he would lead us to multiple SEC and national championships during his time in Baton Rouge. Ultimately, the success at the level that LSU demands simply did not materialize."
 
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VFL-82-JP said:
And the funny thing is, they don't have to win. Anywhere. They just have to convince Kelly that the legal process will be so slow and painful (and it absolutely can be) as to make it worth settling for a fraction of the contract amount.

Highway robbery is legal if you use the law as your lever.

Go Vols!
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I'm not an attorney but if LSU fails at the "for cause" firing lawsuit, they're paying my attorney fees or I've got a crap legal team.

Kelly shouldn't be eating nothing but beans and rice at this point even without working so "slow" shouldn't bother him much. If they want to pay him his money + interest + his attorney fees, that's on them.

If they have real NCAA sanctionable dirt on him, I hope it gets interesting and drags on forever and I'll fire up the popcorn machine for all of us.
 
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#1fulmerite said:
As dumb as this makes them look, Kelly files suit, says LSU seeking 'for cause' firing LSU is trying to get out from under the $53+ million buyout.

This after they tried to negotiate a lower buyout. Add to that, they continuously state his firing was due to on field performance. The difference is we got out of a $10 million deal and they are stuck with almost $54 million.

It’s funny now but glad Pruitt was caught doing what he did.
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The other difference is our Administration actually had a leg to stand on and had their "ducks in a row", while LSU fired him, made it public why they were firing him, then tried to go back and change the narrative after failing to negotiate a buyout settlement in their favor.
 
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VFL-82-JP said:
And the funny thing is, they don't have to win. Anywhere. They just have to convince Kelly that the legal process will be so slow and painful (and it absolutely can be) as to make it worth settling for a fraction of the contract amount.

Highway robbery is legal if you use the law as your lever.

Go Vols!
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🙂 It's not like Kelly is a poor college student eating Ramen noodles to survive. He can easily afford to ride this out.
 
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#1fulmerite said:
As dumb as this makes them look, Kelly files suit, says LSU seeking 'for cause' firing LSU is trying to get out from under the $53+ million buyout.

This after they tried to negotiate a lower buyout. Add to that, they continuously state his firing was due to on field performance. The difference is we got out of a $10 million deal and they are stuck with almost $54 million.

It’s funny now but glad Pruitt was caught doing what he did.
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LSU is about to eff up their coaching search.
 
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Tennessee acted immediately when learning of Pruitt’s stupidity. LSU didn’t act on Kelly when his extramarital affairs were discovered in ‘23. Their case is weak as water & simply a ploy to get him to accept their offer.

Kelly can’t sue State of Louisiana & expect to receive a dime before he retires/dies. Currently Louisiana has over $300 million outstanding judgements against it waiting for legislation funding. The best definition of eternity is suing a government.
 
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VFL-82-JP said:
Don't misunderstand me: I'm no huge fan of Kelly. Or of LSU. I have no dog in this fight.

But to answer your question, it is VERY different. Any time two people or organizations reach an agreement, and shake hands on it, they should both be willing to honor their agreement. Kelly should. LSU should. But LSU is trying to avoid keeping their word.

To rail against the huge amounts included in contracts these days is one thing. I'm with you there. It's kind of obscene (then again, we fans are the ones enabling that). But set the amounts involved aside, because they are not part of the point I'm making. If LSU didn't want to have to pay tens of millions of $$, they should've made that decision when negotiating the contract.

But now it's a signed agreement. LSU don't like how the coach they hired has turned out. Fine. Pay him as they agreed, and move on to someone else. That would be the right thing to do.

I'd be arguing just as strongly in the other direction if Kelly were the one trying to break his word.

Go Vols!
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Nicely said. Voice of reason once again.
 
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