LSU D game plan

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#26
We cannot miss sacks when we have the opportunity like we did with AR. On a 4th down play Young had AR for a sack and he got stiff armed to the ground and he completed a pass and went on for a TD.
 
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I still maintain what I said against Florida. Maintain their gaps, pressure the quarterback, throw in some blitz packages. And hopefully, the officiating crew won't be as blind, or as confused as the ones for the Florida game. Several of Florida's possessions were continued because the officials refused to call all the flagrant holding by Florida's offensive linemen. I know holding probably could be called on almost every play, but as obvious as it was Saturday, there is just no excuse to not call them.
 
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He takes a lot of sacks and his passing stats don’t leap off the page, although he does appear to protect the ball fairly well. I would lean more toward dialing up the pressure and playing zone or soft man to limit their ability to go over the top similar to Florida.

I know people hate the Florida game plan, but honestly I think the thing that really cost us at the end of the game was conservative offensive calls that put the outcome in the hands of our tired secondary and edge rushers. Those guys fought hard all day and they were really close to some game breaking sacks and TFLs quite a few times. I feel like some of that was a bit of a fluke after watching a second time.
 
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sjt18 said:
UT had held UF to 21 points through 52 minutes then went into game preserve mode on both sides of the ball. They weren't able to run the 4 minute O effectively and gave UF an opening. The 4 minute/prevent D just outright sucked except for the last play.

IMO, the moral of the story is that UT can not turn it off any earlier than 4 or maybe even 3 minutes to go. They have to stay aggressive against good or great teams.

I still think a lot of it falls on Banks. But I don't think UT has the guns on either side of the ball to run clock on someone like Bama or maybe even LSU. If they get a lead they can't sit on it.
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Agreed, and would just like to add that personally I don’t give a crap how many yards are allowed. I know, I know, IF, but if the offense picks up that 4&3 near the end of the game, then this terrible defense/secondary only allows 27 points to UF. If anyone offered me that every team the rest of the way would have 500+ yards and only score 27, no more, no less, then we have a National Championship football team in 2022.

I know we’re about to face better offenses than Florida, just using that scenario to make a point. Go Vols!
 
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TennVols12 said:
Agreed, and would just like to add that personally I don’t give a crap how many yards are allowed. I know, I know, IF, but if the offense picks up that 4&3 near the end of the game, then this terrible defense/secondary only allows 27 points to UF. If anyone offered me that every team the rest of the way would have 500+ yards and only score 27, no more, no less, then we have a National Championship football team in 2022.

I know we’re about to face better offenses than Florida, just using that scenario to make a point. Go Vols!
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If you are referring to LSU as a better O then they haven’t played as well in any game as UF did Saturday even considering UTs defensive flaws.

There’s two possibilities concerning the UF game D. One is that UT sucked. The other is that UF and AR found themselves. Probably some of both. Being on the road for the first time might have factored into UFs breakthrough.
 
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VOLfrombama said:
If you’re asking what LSU’s D gameplan is, I will say that they should load the box and make Hendon throw it all over the field. Pitt had the best plan so far and they shut the run down pretty much.

If you’re asking what we should do to stop LSU on D, well, who really knows. Playing zone and not giving up the big play worked but as you can tell is wildly unpopular. Getting pressure by blitzing worked against Pitt but none of their Qbs were as mobile as Daniels. So there’s a huge risk in playing man to man so you can blitz from the back 7 and actually get to the Qb.

Now, if only our front 4 could get pressure without bringing an extra man, then you could really mix it up and try and confuse their Qb.

I expect the same game plan as Florida. We just aren’t good enough to man up in the secondary.
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We played mostly man in the three games leading up to Florida. We played zone because zone (with a spy) seemed to give AR trouble. Our execution made AR look like a heisman candidate though.

I’m think if we mix in zone with man and make sure we bring pressure, that is the key to victory. I see LSU trying to counter our pressure with quick passes and misdirection for the Mike. I hope I’m wrong but Kelly does use the screen pass well as well as a quick zone read RPO and if we aren’t disciplined, we will get burned.
 
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GregAmsler said:
Also, Florida was in 4 down mode the whole game. That's tough on a defense. Who knows if LSU will do the same. Hopefully, we force a lot of 4th downs so we can find out. And hopefully, we stop more of them this time.
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My thoughts exactly. Florida was desperate from the get go with all their 4th down attempts. I doubt we see that many against LSU
 
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AlcoVOLic said:
Loved the Pitt game plan and totally understood the FL game plan. Actually refreshing to see a we plan for each unique offense for once !!

LSU’s D looks better than FL so we simply can’t outscore them (hypothetically). and they have a similar QB in respects of running ability as FL. My question is do you play zone again or man to man and allow QB rushing yards?
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So Tennessee #1 offense is playing against LSU #12 defense in nation
And Tennessee #94 defense is playing against LSU #22 offense in the nation
PLUS.....Playing at LSU

That doesn't stack up too well for us but hope the defense come to play - they will need to
 
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Blitz blitz blitz. We're going to get burned on 3rd or 4th regardless, may as well try and force a few more mistakes along the way.
 
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docterjaws said:
So Tennessee #1 offense is playing against LSU #12 defense in nation
And Tennessee #94 defense is playing against LSU #22 offense in the nation
PLUS.....Playing at LSU

That doesn't stack up too well for us but hope the defense come to play - they will need to
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Or

Tennessee #2 passing O vs LSU #8 passing D

Tennessee #35th rushing O vs LSU #39th rushing D

LSU #29th passing O vs Tennessee’s #128th passing D

LSU’s #28th rushing O vs Tennessee’s #24th rushing D


Stacks up pretty well. They have 1 distinct advantage; however Tennessee’s passing O is head and shoulders above their own.

Not to mention we have no real idea of LSU’s true stats right now (or what they really will be)……let’s see what they are once they have played Tennessee, Florida, Bama, A&M, Mississippi and Arkansas…….because I highly doubt it will be even close to what it is now.

No doubt Tennessee will not have the #1 O after LSU, Georgia, Bama and maybe KY……but it will still be close……..we know it’s really good.
 
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#38
The Vols just need to be full throttle for all 60minutes of the game. If that means we win by 100 points then I'm fine with that.
 
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AlcoVOLic said:
Loved the Pitt game plan and totally understood the FL game plan. Actually refreshing to see a we plan for each unique offense for once !!

LSU’s D looks better than FL so we simply can’t outscore them (hypothetically). and they have a similar QB in respects of running ability as FL. My question is do you play zone again or man to man and allow QB rushing yards?
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Hate to say it but I see no evidence that our DBs can play either zone or man effectively.
 
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#40
Attack,attack,attack,don't let them breathe.Play uptempo and do not slow down for any reason.We do not play a take your time offense well.
 
#41
#41
LSU O-Line is not as good as FL. I think we can get more pressure with just the front 4.

Edit: But if by midway second quarter we are not getting pressure on the LSU QB then yes bring the house. I do not want them to be 4/5 on 4th down.
 
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BleedOrange16 said:
I think our D, for the most part, is what it is.

I would like to see us focus on how to generate more explosive plays and RedZone D (meaning be aggressive until they hit the RedZone). Current personnel won’t allow us to dominate defensive statistics.

But if we can create more offensive possessions via explosive defensive plays and turnovers, and/or forcing FGs in our RedZone… that’s a win for this defense this year (especially given this O’s ability to score).

More talent help is not arriving on D until the 2023 and 2024 classes (and look at the number of DBs in the 2023 class for evidence). So we have to maximize the current talent we have available to us. I would rather be aggressive and give the ball back to the O faster vs dying by 1000 cuts.
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Play nickel or dime the entire game.
 
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The plan? Just hope and pray we don’t let another mediocre QB have a monster career game against us. That’s all we really have.
 
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JoAllan said:
Or

Tennessee #2 passing O vs LSU #8 passing D

Tennessee #35th rushing O vs LSU #39th rushing D

LSU #29th passing O vs Tennessee’s #128th passing D

LSU’s #28th rushing O vs Tennessee’s #24th rushing D


Stacks up pretty well. They have 1 distinct advantage; however Tennessee’s passing O is head and shoulders above their own.

Not to mention we have no real idea of LSU’s true stats right now (or what they really will be)……let’s see what they are once they have played Tennessee, Florida, Bama, A&M, Mississippi and Arkansas…….because I highly doubt it will be even close to what it is now.

No doubt Tennessee will not have the #1 O after LSU, Georgia, Bama and maybe KY……but it will still be close……..we know it’s really good.
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128th in pass defense. 128TH!!!! My God 🤢🤢🤢🤢🤢🤢🤢🤢
 
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TennVols12 said:
Agreed, and would just like to add that personally I don’t give a crap how many yards are allowed. I know, I know, IF, but if the offense picks up that 4&3 near the end of the game, then this terrible defense/secondary only allows 27 points to UF. If anyone offered me that every team the rest of the way would have 500+ yards and only score 27, no more, no less, then we have a National Championship football team in 2022.

I know we’re about to face better offenses than Florida, just using that scenario to make a point. Go Vols!
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I’m not sure LSU offense is better than Florida, but for darn sure their defense is. Doubt we run up and down the field consistently against that defense. Our defense better play better.
 
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BigOrangeTrain said:
128th in pass defense. 128TH!!!! My God 🤢🤢🤢🤢🤢🤢🤢🤢
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As stated…..through 4 games, these are not going to sit still.

Tennessee’s passing D isn’t going to suddenly be good……however it won’t be 128th bad.

So far everyone has been forced to pass just to try and keep up……and it still hasn’t worked.

Their rushing D is pretty good so far and that should help them in some games. If folks are worried about the passing D that’s understandable…….however I’m not. I would be more so if Tennessee’s O wasn’t as good as it is.
 
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