Lovie Smith Class Act (Video)

#26
#26
TNHopeful505 said:
I was all for Kiffin when he was pulling his secondary violations and whatnot, because hey, it worked.

But now that he's gone, I realize, that not only did he screw us over by leaving us with no coach 3 weeks before NSD, losing our greatest class in the past few years, BUT, he also left us with a bad reputation. Nukeese, Myles, Janzen (though not guilty, still associated), the NCAA looking at our actions, the hostess junk, and then the basketball team adding Tyler, Melvin, Brian, and Cam....

UT just doesn't look good right now. I think that Lovie could dramatically improve our rep, and maybe help these kids accomplish something even after football is over. These kids are people, and they deserve to have a coach who truly wants their well being, not a coach who is using them as a stepping stone to get somewhere else.

I want Lovie!
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Every school in the country commits secondary violations.
 
#27
#27
Volfan8282 said:
Considering our defense wasn't as good this year as 2008, I disagree. Most of that was due to injuries, but still. And, if you don't think our offense improved IMMENSELY, then you're nuts. It's the sole reason we did better than 2008.
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our offense did improve, and the coaches behind that are still here. Our defense didn't look as good statistically but after watching Chavis' D's for 17yrs I think we have all learned stats don't mean anything. It was Chavis that couldn't stop Georgia or LSU in 01'. Chavis got hammered by Uran and Spurrier repeatedly. Monte on the other hand kept us in every game this season, minus Ole Miss and V-Tech, but like you said we were on our 3rd string MLB

I would have taken Monte's D over Chavis anyday. We got stops when it mattered, something Chavis never did except in 98' but I attribute that to Al Wilson, Shaun Ellis, Dwayne Goodrich, Deon Grant, Fred White, Raynoch Thompson, and Eric Westmorland. All of which played in the NFL.
 
#28
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Volfan8282 said:
Every school in the country commits secondary violations.
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That's true, but I think maybe I mean more of the negative publicity we got from it. Just gave us the appearance of cheaters, that funny enough, nobody else in the NCAA really got last year.
 
#29
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bushman said:
our offense did improve, and the coaches behind that are still here. Our defense didn't look as good statistically but after watching Chavis' D's for 17yrs I think we have all learned stats don't mean anything. It was Chavis that couldn't stop Georgia or LSU in 01'. Chavis got hammered by Uran and Spurrier repeatedly. Monte on the other hand kept us in every game this season, minus Ole Miss and V-Tech, but like you said we were on our 3rd string MLB

I would have taken Monte's D over Chavis anyday. We got stops when it mattered, something Chavis never did except in 98' but I attribute that to Al Wilson, Shaun Ellis, Dwayne Goodrich, Deon Grant, Fred White, Raynoch Thompson, and Eric Westmorland. All of which played in the NFL.
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Hey.. your talking to a Monte supporter and a Chavis hater. But, I was just arguing that the reason for our improvement had a lot more to do with Kiffin and our offense than it did with Monte's defense.
 
#30
#30
TNHopeful505 said:
That's true, but I think maybe I mean more of the negative publicity we got from it. Just gave us the appearance of cheaters, that funny enough, nobody else in the NCAA really got last year.
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Yeah, but that was Kiffin. I personally have no ill-will toward the guy. I know I'm in the minority on that, but I would've done the same thing he did if I had a dream job staring me in the face. Might've gone about it differently. Btw, Kiffin's philosophy and style will work. Just watch USC in the next 5 years. They will be scary good again.

The media didn't like the guy, and so they painted that picture of him and the program. I agree in that I don't like being portrayed like that either. But, one championship would've cleared any of that.
 
#31
#31
Hard to take someone seriously that knocks the notion of hiring an NFL coach with an above .500 career winning percentage(actually Lovie Smith's career win percentage is higher than Jeff Fisher). The same coach that won NFL coach of the year 5 years ago, and led his team to a Super Bowl. Not to mention the guy significantly improved every NFL defense he worked on. Yeah, forget that guy, let's send Peyton to have a chat with Dungy, I think that's a GREAT plan. I mean, he walked away from coaching Manning and a team he loved in Indy, but I'm sure he would just love to come to TN. Get real.
 
#32
#32
Volfan8282 said:
Hey.. your talking to a Monte supporter and a Chavis hater. But, I was just arguing that the reason for our improvement had a lot more to do with Kiffin and our offense than it did with Monte's defense.
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Understand, I don't completely agree though. Our O-Fence was much improved but all credit cannot be given to Kiffin. It was Monte that kept Tebow under somewhat containment and the Heisman Trophy winner Ingram to under 100yds and what, 2 fumbles. If we get blown out like Chavis did then the small amount of points we mustered against them would have been worthless.
 
#33
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Diceman said:
Hard to take someone seriously that knocks the notion of hiring an NFL coach with an above .500 career winning percentage(actually Lovie Smith's career win percentage is higher than Jeff Fisher). The same coach that won NFL coach of the year 5 years ago, and led his team to a Super Bowl. Not to mention the guy significantly improved every NFL defense he worked on. Yeah, forget that guy, let's send Peyton to have a chat with Dungy, I think that's a GREAT plan. I mean, he walked away from coaching Manning and a team he loved in Indy, but I'm sure he would just love to come to TN. Get real.
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I got asked a simple question (Who do you want to hire?), and I answered it. That's who I want. Do I think it's likely? Heck no. Do I think they should try? I would be unbelievably annoyed if they didn't. Dungy is all about helping others and serving the Lord now (which is great btw). What better way than to lead young men at one of their most important times in their lives?
 
#34
#34
Volfan8282 said:
I got asked a simple question (Who do you want to hire?), and I answered it. That's who I want. Do I think it's likely? Heck no. Do I think they should try? I would be unbelievably annoyed if they didn't. Dungy is all about helping others and serving the Lord now (which is great btw). What better way than to lead young men at one of their most important times in their lives?
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Go to Haiti or take care of other people that aren't going to a world-class university for free? I don't think anyone's coming to TN out of charity.
 
#35
#35
Volfan8282 said:
Yeah, but that was Kiffin. I personally have no ill-will toward the guy. I know I'm in the minority on that, but I would've done the same thing he did if I had a dream job staring me in the face. Might've gone about it differently. Btw, Kiffin's philosophy and style will work. Just watch USC in the next 5 years. They will be scary good again.

The media didn't like the guy, and so they painted that picture of him and the program. I agree in that I don't like being portrayed like that either. But, one championship would've cleared any of that.
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I'm with you in the minority. I mean, I knew from the day I heard his background that if USC ever opened up (which honestly, nobody ever thought it would) that he would be a leading candidate. And I can't blame him. Orgeron makes me the maddest of all of them. I do believe Kiffin gave his all for Tennessee, I don't think that he knew the job would come open at USC, and I don't think that USC gave him a choice to wait. It was either "lane, you take this now, or you don't take it at all." After all, they were only a few days removed from the same situation we're in. I personally am not mad at Kiffin, I think he did good things for UT, and he showed us our potential, and planted a good foundation, and I hope we get a coach that takes that good foundation and produces wins with good character.

I hate what happened to us, but adversity creates opportunity, and I believe that this is just going to make us better as a football team. Lane Kiffin was not the best there is for Tennessee football.
 
#37
#37
TNHopeful505 said:
I'm with you in the minority. I mean, I knew from the day I heard his background that if USC ever opened up (which honestly, nobody ever thought it would) that he would be a leading candidate. And I can't blame him. Orgeron makes me the maddest of all of them. I do believe Kiffin gave his all for Tennessee, I don't think that he knew the job would come open at USC, and I don't think that USC gave him a choice to wait. It was either "lane, you take this now, or you don't take it at all." After all, they were only a few days removed from the same situation we're in. I personally am not mad at Kiffin, I think he did good things for UT, and he showed us our potential, and planted a good foundation, and I hope we get a coach that takes that good foundation and produces wins with good character.

I hate what happened to us, but adversity creates opportunity, and I believe that this is just going to make us better as a football team. Lane Kiffin was not the best there is for Tennessee football.
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What foundation did he plant? He helped us get one top 10 recruiting class and then decimated the next one. Don't expect me to believe he did UT ANY favors.
 
#38
#38
Diceman said:
What foundation did he plant? He helped us get one top 10 recruiting class and then decimated the next one. Don't expect me to believe he did UT ANY favors.
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Well, if Bray, Milton, Bryce Brown, Marsalis Teague, or Janzen ever turn out to be something, we'll have no choice but to say the Kiffin era recruited them. I mean, those players will make significant impact on this program, and I'm thankful for that.
 
#39
#39
davidtn said:
But MOM...Johnny's doin' it, why can't I?
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Good gosh, I'm so glad that you're not in any position to make any decision regarding the UT athletic department. Secondary violations mean nothing. They're beyond dumb to even have. Go look at how many Richt (and I like Richt and share his same beliefs) has had down at UGA. It doesn't mean you're an immoral coach to have secondary violations. Get a clue.
 
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