Looks like Coach Jeremy Pruitt wasn't the only one

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GBOplayer said:
Nebraska Football: Ugly accusations surface after Scott Frost’s departure

Looks like CJP wasn't the only one that was in over his head...we dodged a bullet here, as alot if us wanted CSF
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Was Scott Frost in over his head at Nebraska? Probably, but he did take over a dreadful UCF program that went winless the year before he got there and won 19 games over the next two seasons. Jeremy Pruitt had never been a head coach at any level including high school. Nebraska's problems are much deeper than Scott Frost, Pruitt was a horrendous hire.
 
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I don't think what happened is a fair judgement on Frost's ability as a coach. Bob Devaney and Tom Osborne caught lightning in a bottle (before the onset of things like NIL). Nebraska is in the middle of nowhere. How do you recruit to a place like that?
 
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landscapingvol said:
Was Scott Frost in over his head at Nebraska? Probably, but he did take over a dreadful UCF program that went winless the year before he got there and won 19 games over the next two seasons. Jeremy Pruitt had never been a head coach at any level including high school. Nebraska's problems are much deeper than Scott Frost, Pruitt was a horrendous hire.
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UCF is weird. If you look at their history, they have a good year or 2, then a terrible year, then bounce back with a great year. It is really strange.
 
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landscapingvol said:
Was Scott Frost in over his head at Nebraska? Probably, but he did take over a dreadful UCF program that went winless the year before he got there and won 19 games over the next two seasons. Jeremy Pruitt had never been a head coach at any level including high school. Nebraska's problems are much deeper than Scott Frost, Pruitt was a horrendous hire.
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I mean...Pruitt had a great resume as a coordinator, even if you don't count his time at Bama (and you should count his time at Bama). Kirby Smart and Bob Stoops had never been head coaches at any level, either. Bill Snyder had been an assistant at various levels for 25+ years, but never a HC, when KState hired him. That's why ADs have to look beyond a resume, I guess. Pruitt didn't have the mental makeup to be a HC. But plenty of coordinators become great head coaches.
 
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DiderotsGhost said:
As bad as hiring Pruitt turned out to be, Frost may end up being one of the worst hires of all-time. Which is crazy! No one thought that at the time.
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I thought he would fail (and said so at the time) because his offense doesn't fit Nebraska. I thought they should've hired Paul Johnson to get back to the option game. Nebraska just can't access the athletes he needs to run that offense...plus, it's hard to throw in the snow. But I didn't think he'd be THIS bad.

I also think that Frost could do very well in a sun belt state like Florida. Okay, he already has...but I mean at one of the big 3 schools there. His offense is tailor made for that type of athlete. He would actually scare me at Florida. Fortunately, he's tainted enough now that UF wouldn't touch him if they are looking for a coach in the next few years.

Nebraska needs to get back to running power option football and pumping their players with steroids if they wanna win big again.
 
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arkyvol said:
I don't think what happened is a fair judgement on Frost's ability as a coach. Bob Devaney and Tom Osborne caught lightning in a bottle (before the onset of things like NIL). Nebraska is in the middle of nowhere. How do you recruit to a place like that?
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Meh...actually they just gave their guys lightning in a bottle. One of the most "juiced up" teams of all time was the Osborne teams of the 90's. Hate to say it...but most college teams in the 90's followed suit...especially after playing against them.
 
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Enki_Amenra said:
UCF is weird. If you look at their history, they have a good year or 2, then a terrible year, then bounce back with a great year. It is really strange.
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UCF is built for long-term success. They are smack dab in the middle of one of the most talent-rich states in the US. The big three of Florida can't get all the talent every year.
 
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Allvols1996 said:
Coach Heupel is damn lucky to have Spyre.
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While I will agree with you that Spyre has helped tremendously on the recruiting side of things, what he is doing on the field right now doesn't have much to do with Spyre. The change in culture, the buy in from the players, the wins (so far) have very little to do with Spyre imo. That's really what I was referring to.
 
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Folks get too caught up in “one season” (before he got there and while he was there).

It’s always like…..oh my goodness that team was 0-12 and Scott Frost took them to 13-0.

Folks fail to realize the team was 9-4 the previous year, and 12-1 the year before.

Frost came in and had a losing season. Sure he took over an 0-12 team…..however it was a team that in no way should have been 0-12, and played in an extremely weak conference.

Sure Frost had them undefeated and that was/is great…….however WAY too much was made of this one single season without looking at the totality. He had talent around him, weak conference with a weak ocs.

I seriously thought Frost would be great……simply by looking over his lifetime. However “I” made unrealistic assumptions. The guy had been a winner almost everywhere since he was a kid. One could assume that would translate…….however that doesn’t necessarily make you a good head coach…….and he obviously is NOT.

Nebraska hired their Manning and it spiraled, crashed and burned………in my opinion being much worse than Pruitt. He leaves with a losing record in 5 consecutive years, never won more than 5 games in a season, 10-26 in conference while never wining more than 3 conference games in a season, ran off many of their best recruits, trashed many of the assistants he hired,
 
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arkyvol said:
I don't think what happened is a fair judgement on Frost's ability as a coach. Bob Devaney and Tom Osborne caught lightning in a bottle (before the onset of things like NIL). Nebraska is in the middle of nowhere. How do you recruit to a place like that?
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You don’t.

If they can’t get kids to consider them based on money resources alone then it’s time to pee on the fire and call the dogs no matter the coach.
 
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Enki_Amenra said:
I can't imagine anyone will approach the levels of dysfunction and incompetence Pruitt reached.
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Maybe Brady Hoke at Michigan. Clearly won the Sugar Bowl in year 1 on the back of the team that Rich Rod built. Once Rich's older classes left, Hoke's incompetence became that much more apparent.

Guy didn't even wear a headset on the sideline. Also played a rapist.
 
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Scott Frost was the guy I wanted most after Lyle. His resume at the time checked all the boxes for an up-and-coming Coach on his way to being the next big thing.
  • College QB under 2 Hall of Fame Coaches
  • Won 2 Nat'l Championships
  • Played in the NFL on Defense
  • Coached on 4 teams that played in BCS bowls
  • Developed multiple players that went to the NFL, including a Heisman trophy winner
  • Coached as both an Offensive and Defensive Coordinator
  • Took over an 0-12 team and had them at 11-0 in 2 years w/a national ranking and a win over #7 Auburn in a bowl game
What an absolute flame-out and disappointment.
 
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arkyvol said:
I don't think what happened is a fair judgement on Frost's ability as a coach. Bob Devaney and Tom Osborne caught lightning in a bottle (before the onset of things like NIL). Nebraska is in the middle of nowhere. How do you recruit to a place like that?
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Also under Tom Osbourne Nebraska ran what seemed to be their own, unique offense. It was designed to fit QBs like Frost and Frazier. Nothing really was unique about Frost's offense as it is similar to what many other schools are running today. People also wanted to play for Osbourne like players today want to play for Nick Saban.

They also had a coach in Bo Pelini who won 9 games or more each season he was there. That was not good enough for the school or their fans. Since Pelini left they have gone downhill.
 
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Article didn’t say much except he was late to meetings and didn’t pay attention to details.
 
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GregAmsler said:
I thought he would fail (and said so at the time) because his offense doesn't fit Nebraska. I thought they should've hired Paul Johnson to get back to the option game. Nebraska just can't access the athletes he needs to run that offense...plus, it's hard to throw in the snow. But I didn't think he'd be THIS bad.

I also think that Frost could do very well in a sun belt state like Florida. Okay, he already has...but I mean at one of the big 3 schools there. His offense is tailor made for that type of athlete. He would actually scare me at Florida. Fortunately, he's tainted enough now that UF wouldn't touch him if they are looking for a coach in the next few years.

Nebraska needs to get back to running power option football and pumping their players with steroids if they wanna win big again.
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Bret Bielema would be a good choice there. Illinois is looking respectable so far. He likes huge linemen, running it down your throat. It'll be interesting to see how Illini do in the conference play this year.
 
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