Looking back, when should Fulmer have been asked to resign/canned and why?

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I say '05. I don't think through '01 you have much of an argument. '02 was really disappointing but don't know that it would warrant firing 4 years removed from the NC. Maybe '03 after second disappointing year. I know we won 10 games and beat Miami and I think tied for the East, but that was a team that had a lot of potential. I actually thought '04 (minus the ND game) was one of his better coaching years starting two freshmen, etc. But to have such lofty expectations in '05 and tank like that was awful and it was the rock bottom of a downward spiral that started with that '01 SECCG loss to lsu.

I didn't just grap this out of thin air. The "do you care if Fulmer does good at another school poll" got me thinking about it.
 
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Totally agree, 2005. As Matt Elam said the other day, "there is something wrong in Gainesville." I felt that way in the 2002 Florida game in the rain when the center could not even get the ball to the QB. That showed me that we were a paper tiger and did not know how to coach the basics of football. I now think that Fulmer was distracted with the Locke situation at the time and trying to control that situation, but that is a place he should have never been any way.

Another red flag was offensive line coach Mike Berry walking out of here. He was a class act and knew what he was doing. And the staff's failure to develop talent was very evident.

I do think that he is a good man like Coach Battle. But the game passed him by.
 
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It was obvious that the Fulmer era was basically over when Maryland stomped us in the Peach Bowl, but it would have been unrealistic to expect him to be canned then. He should have been gone after 2005. Hamilton didn't have the political clout to get it done then, but that's when it should have happened.
 
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Will we still be going over this topic in 2010, 11, 12 ? I mean really, how many times are we gonna cover this base ?
 
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2005 - 7 years of no SECC or BCS Bowls, 3 SECCG loses, and a #1 ranked team/season blowing up in 2005.
 
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onevol74 said:
Totally agree, 2005. As Matt Elam said the other day, "there is something wrong in Gainesville." I felt that way in the 2002 Florida game in the rain when the center could not even get the ball to the QB. That showed me that we were a paper tiger and did not know how to coach the basics of football. I now think that Fulmer was distracted with the Locke situation at the time and trying to control that situation, but that is a place he should have never been any way.

Another red flag was offensive line coach Mike Berry walking out of here. He was a class act and knew what he was doing. And the staff's failure to develop talent was very evident.

I do think that he is a good man like Coach Battle. But the game passed him by.
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Agreed. I don't hate or dislike Fulmer like several on this forum seem to and voted in the other thread that I wish him success elsewhere as long as it doesn't hurt UT....HOWEVER I did think that they should have made a change around 05 as stated in the above post...the game seemed to have passed him by at this level. :yes:
 
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Just wondering out loud. I know he got a raise and a contract extension after the "07 season, but how many others did he get this century?
 
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JOEY'S ALL VOL !!! said:
Irrelevent, since he's gone and there aren't enough of them left to make a case now anyway.
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Funny. It seems a lot of people who say, “ I agree that it was time for him to go” were saying, “He has earned at least 1 more year to turn it around” back then.
 
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I wished it would have never come to that. I would have liked to have seen him retire after the NC game. Everyone would have been happy and he would have went out on top. Unfortunately he lingered on until things got real bad. To be honest, even in the best of times I never felt Fulmer's teams were a serious threat to Florida (and thus a threat to win the east consistently). Sure we might beat them on a rare occasion (or sneak in the back door) but it was not going to happen consistently. Also, watching bowl games during this era was very painful.
 
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VolDad said:
Funny. It seems a lot of people who say, “ I agree that it was time for him to go” were saying, “He has earned at least 1 more year to turn it around” back then.
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Because most people I know were totally caught off guard by the Vandy loss in 2005 and said that it was time for a change. I do not know if you were listening at that time but the administration and bigwigs were having to defend him at that time. Ask Mike Hamilton if sky box occupancy dropped that year. Look at the attendance averages from 2005 to date.
 
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My opinion is Fulmer was let go right on time. He deserved more leeway than most anybody else due to the NC. He recovered somewhat in 2007 but after the 2006 and then last year's debacle, it was clear he had to go for the good of the program. I'm sorry he didn't see it coming, but that just displayed how out of touch he was. If we let Johnny go, and we did at 8-3, Phil couldn't hang around, after 2 of 3 losing seasons.
 
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I personally really got firmly on the Fire Fulmer bandwagon after that sickening Penn State loss in Outback Bowl after then 2006 season.
 
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IMO, if it would have happened after the 2005 season, it would have been just as justified as when it finally did go down. But, when you think about everything surrounding the 2005 season (expectations vs. results, arrests, etc.), it was probably more justified then and the university would have looked better for having taken action, due to all of the off the field issues. Plus, it would have saved a lot of $$$ since he wouldn't have been around to receive the golden parachute/contract extension after backing into the 2007 SEC CG.
 
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This is a real bullsh-- thread with asinine posts.
Don't you ever get tired of bashing the coach that had a great record and a National Championship?
Some of you are just sick. You don't bleed orange, you bleed diarrhea.
 
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