Looking back at the Mike DeBord era

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Orange&White said:
Thirty minutes of a sixty minute game. You seriously pick the 30 minutes of the entire season the offense looked its best. What about App State, Ohio, UGA, Alabama, USC, and Vandy?! Again, the offense scored points and put up yards, but not consistently when it mattered most. I didn't hate DeBord. It's easy to look back and be critical of him, especially when I have no idea of what's going on behind the scenes. I know he did not get any help from the defense. All I am implying is our offense was too predictable and inconsistent throughout the season.

I'd just like us to be able to keep our rhythm as a unit for an entire game for the entire season. I'd like us to mold our offense to the players we have on the field, not Butch's system. I want our best players on the field and the ball in their hands. I'd like an OC who can make in-game adjustments when the opposing defense has figured out our game plan and punish them. The offense improved as the season went on, but why was that? We started letting Dobbs use his legs, we took chances passing the ball to Malone and Jennings, and utilizing AK and Kelly. We underutilized Malone and AK all season. Is that what we get for paying an OC $500,000/yr?

Also, I am playing devils advocate, but I completely agree that defense is the main concern for Tennessee right now.
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Our offense was conservative too.

It's the option, how do you figure it out? Give, keep or pass, very simple if the QB makes the right read after that it's either make a handoff, take off running or pull up throwing. If we can get on the same page, how in the world are they?

I think our defense will end up between Fl 2nd haft and Vandy 2nd half. Some where between worst and best, I'm think around better, not as good as best but not even close to the worst we've seen.

Release the Beast!
 
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I know Dobbs was a better QB after Debord took over. I know all aspects of our offense improved, offensive line play, QB play, rushing, etc. Now you can attribute that to the players maturing and improving on their own or you can give the man some damn credit.

Most people just don't want to face the fact that they might have been wrong about Debord when he came in.
 
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DaddyChad said:
I know Dobbs was a better QB after Debord took over. I know all aspects of our offense improved, offensive line play, QB play, rushing, etc. Now you can attribute that to the players maturing and improving on their own or you can give the man some damn credit.

Most people just don't want to face the fact that they might have been wrong about Debord when he came in.
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Are we keeping score? I was wrong about 4 games last year. How did you do?
 
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Iam4utalways said:
Our offense was conservative too.

It's the option, how do you figure it out? Give, keep or pass, very simple if the QB makes the right read after that it's either make a handoff, take off running or pull up throwing. If we can get on the same page, how in the world are they?

I think our defense will end up between Fl 2nd haft and Vandy 2nd half. Some where between worst and best, I'm think around better, not as good as best but not even close to the worst we've seen.

Release the Beast!
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Watch the Florida game the past two years and tell me we were conservative.
 
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DaddyChad said:
Watch the Florida game the past two years and tell me we were conservative.
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I was at both the 1st half of 2016. I don't think we threw deep once. Down 21-0 and kicking FG. We did go for it on 4th after they muffed the punt at the 2(craziest muff I've ever seen and I've seen some muffs). Lest we forget the going for 2 chart and can't ice a game to save a puppy in 2015.

Or were you kidding? Ya got me.

Release the Beast!
 
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lexkyvol said:
Some dude named Joshua Dobbs made him look a whole lot better than he actually was!
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So did DeShaun Watson make Clemson's OC look good or is the OC pretty good on his own? I'm curious as to how you go about assigning credit to offensive production.
 
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Everyone knows that in the always brutal SEC you must have a decent run game even if your passing game is lights out which our wasn't.

DeBord was brought in to help with the O line some and to make our running game much better and to help Dobbs get his passing up to a decent completion %.

DeBord accomplished that and more and he helped set some O records as well.

I have to agree that in the last 2 seasons we lost some games I thought we could have and should have Won but most every team does that especially in the SEC.

I appreciate the man moving his family to K town and giving 2 years of hard work to try to help make our footVol team better.

You'll never hear Tom Brady say anything bad about Coach DeBord because he coached Brady at Michigan and helped him get into the NFL.

Stop the childish bashing on the man that gave us 2 years of his life and did a pretty good job.

Nobody knows how many plays buTch may have insisted DeBord call.

Best of luck Coach DeBord and thanks for your time trying to help our beloved footVol team!

VFL...GBO!!!
 
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Numbers don't lie. At least to knowledgeable football fans. Couple of key stats there that tell you what u need to know about his tenure with us. I just wish fans would stop the ole "he's too conservative a play caller and he can't make halftime adjustments" critique. I do believe every OC alive gets accused of that and 90% of the accusers have no clue what that means. But most of all I liked the way he conducted himself here and stayed above the fray. Thanks Coach.
 
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Iam4utalways said:
Dang, when you put it like that, it's a wonder we scored any points.
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LOL

I think the premise of the thread is a little silly.

I tend to remember the guys actually on the field running the plays a lot more than I remember the guy upstairs with the headset on.

There was plenty of good from DeBord's (and I use that term extremely loose) offense as others have pointed out.

There were also plenty of times where it bogged down, left people scratching their heads, and ultimately disappointed.
 
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Orange&White said:
I don't understand it. There's not many rational Vol fans that argue the fact that our offense put up a lot of yards and a lot of points. The issue with DeBord was the fact that he ran a vanilla, predictable offense. Like many others have said Dobbs, AK, and Malone frequently turned terrible plays into huge gains. Also, the offense worked when they were clicking but stalled when they were not. Many times the opposing coaching staffs made adjustments and smothered our offense. A good OC should be able to adjust the plan in-game to players who are in rhythm and get the offense clicking, not solely relying on the players to do so. I'm glad he's gone. We need new ideas and fresh takes on our offense. We have got to step up our coaching staff and play on the field. However, I'd rather him have stayed if we make the supposed hires.

Why does DeBord get the credit for those offensive numbers if we then blame Butch for controlling the offense and not relinquishing control to an OC?
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How can it be both vanilla and predictable, if records are broken. All coordinators have tendencies, that's human nature.
 
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JonGrudensAgent said:
LOL

I think the premise of the thread is a little silly.

I tend to remember the guys actually on the field running the plays a lot more than I remember the guy upstairs with the headset on.

There was plenty of good from DeBord's (and I use that term extremely loose) offense as others have pointed out.

There were also plenty of times where it bogged down, left people scratching their heads, and ultimately disappointed.
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The way some plays got blown up, it was easy to tell that we were predictable. The times we would get creative(run left instead of right) it was easy to tell we had a basic execution issue at times. We would try a trick play(3 yard pass to the flat on third and 13) and it would get blasted too.

On other possessions we would make their defense look Jr Highish. We were inconsistent with throws, drops, reads, blocks and ball security, we had a shot at losing ever game except TnTech, we overcame ourselves in all but 4 games.

We missed my season prediction by 4 games,

Release the Beast!
 
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We've had amazing personnel and the easiest east in at least a decade. I'll remember him for being butchs right hand "yes" man and never getting us to Atlanta.
The stats are good but they often don't tell the whole story. We should have played different personnel (mainly not giving Hurd 90% of the carries) and in certain situations we didn't do what we needed.
 
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Yall can defend Debord and this system all you want. You have a legitimate argument based off stats. But when you break it down, it simply comes down to a few guys executing plays. Kind of like CP was a freak with the ball in his hands. That's what Dobbs and AK did sprinkled in with a few freak plays from Jennings.

Our offense was so poor it couldn't win the East on a silver plater. It took luck to win against Appy.that's how dang explosive it was. It was not consistent and he was poor about keeping the defense on its toes. And for the love of God.

IT CONSISTED OF 5 PLAYS

This scheme and coaches relied on good players to bail them out. It should be the other way around
 
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Nasavol said:
See Dobbs, Joshua
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The question was not about Dobbs nor was my answer up for debate. The question was "How will you remember the DeBord era?" and those two games sum up exactly how I, me not you, will remember it, an offense that disappeared during games.
 
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Iam4utalways said:
The way some plays got blown up, it was easy to tell that we were predictable. The times we would get creative(run left instead of right) it was easy to tell we had a basic execution issue at times. We would try a trick play(3 yard pass to the flat on third and 13) and it would get blasted too.

On other possessions we would make their defense look Jr Highish. We were inconsistent with throws, drops, reads, blocks and ball security, we had a shot at losing ever game except TnTech, we overcame ourselves in all but 4 games.

We missed my season prediction by 4 games,

Release the Beast!
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DeBord pretty well lost me after the SC loss.

Definitely some merit to complaints about predictability.

He found it "interesting" that teams change up what he saw on film. Just sounded completely clueless that SC showed him something they didn't see on film.

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SkUSyOEjabM[/youtube]
 
#73
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Titans Fan said:
How will you remember the DeBord era?

Second most rushing yards in a season in 2015. The Vols rushed for 2,908 yards in DeBord’s first season under Butch Jones, second only to the 1951 Vols (3,068). Tennessee finished with 2,668 rushing yards in 2016, ranking fourth all-time in school history, just shy of the 1950 Vols who rushed for the school’s third best in a season with 2,710 yards.

Tennessee’s offense averaged 443.7 yards and 36.4 points per game. Team 120 set a single-season school record of 63 total touchdowns. The Vols also produced 473 total points, the second most points in a season behind the 1993 team (484 points) and a year removed from scoring 457 points in 2015, just shy of the 1990 Vols’ 465 points (third all-time in school history).

Looking back at the Mike DeBord era on Rocky Top
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Dobbs had a tremendous impact on the rushing stats and points scored. We will miss him more than Debord.
 
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Orange&White said:
It is also interesting to quote our offense's numbers and pat DeBord on the back, but what did we accomplish? No SEC championships, no SEC East championships, and no Sugar Bowl. I know we went from 5-7 to 7-5 and now back to back 9-4 seasons. We have been to three bowl games in a row for the first time in a while. And we have a Battle at Bristol trophy. I appreciate what the coaching staff has done, but it is time for Tennessee to take the next step towards real championships. I am tired of Tennessee underachieving and being a joke across the country. I love this University and team, I will not settle for anything short of the best.
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If you want to place blame, you might want to look at the other side of the ball.

As for the last sentence, you have had a lot of disappointment in your life. UT football has consistently fallen short...even in the Manning years.
 
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