Lofton: Future in Coaching?

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Cuonzo Martin ‏@CuonzoMartin 46m
Vol Nation, do you recognize my assistant coach from yesterday's College All-Star Game? We won 87-81. pic.twitter.com/8U8badIDTA

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No clue if he's actually interested in becoming a coach, but I thought this was pretty cool. I'd love to see him back on the bench for the Vols.
 
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Besides McRae, everyone on the team could use a 3 point shooting lesson from Mr. Lofton.
 
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What I don't understand is that Cuonzo was a fantastic shooter for Purdue, he had even finished as the runner-up in the 3 point shooting contest, how has he not taught better 3 point shooting? As far as I'm concerned, I haven't noticed any changes with 'our' 3 point shooter other than McBee. You can tell this year the McBee was using a lot more moves than just catch and shooting, head fakes, pivot fakes, etc. Maybe more have progressed, maybe it's just our players basketball mentality. Who knows.
 
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iKrager said:
What I don't understand is that Cuonzo was a fantastic shooter for Purdue, he had even finished as the runner-up in the 3 point shooting contest, how has he not taught better 3 point shooting? As far as I'm concerned, I haven't noticed any changes with 'our' 3 point shooter other than McBee. You can tell this year the McBee was using a lot more moves than just catch and shooting, head fakes, pivot fakes, etc. Maybe more have progressed, maybe it's just our players basketball mentality. Who knows.
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I don't know how big on form he is more than just repetition and practice. He always says guys just need to get shots up, should be in the gym everyday shooting...maybe that's how he got better so he expects it to work for others as well idk.
 
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Seriously? The coach is supposed to magically make everyone shoot light out? I doubt they teach much shooting form in college, it's a little too late.
 
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K-town Vol Fan said:
Seriously? The coach is supposed to magically make everyone shoot light out? I doubt they teach much shooting form in college, it's a little too late.
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That's like saying it's too late to teach a college QB correct throwing form/stance. I don't think it's ever to late to teach someone the correct way to shoot. I mean look at Dwight Howard/Jarnell Stokes horrible free throw shooter, but will always be working on his form.
 
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I don't know if Cuonzo thinks this in these terms, but it would be a fantastic PR move to bring Chris Lofton back to Tennessee as a member of the staff. Not only would he have credibility with the players and - we hope - have an ability to teach a bit about shooting - but he would be a great bridge to the previous success of the Pearl teams.

If Chris were interested, that would seem like a home run move to me.


Jonboy said:
Cuonzo Martin ‏@CuonzoMartin 46m
Vol Nation, do you recognize my assistant coach from yesterday's College All-Star Game? We won 87-81. pic.twitter.com/8U8badIDTA

BHLKjRFCIAIuX_A.jpg:medium


No clue if he's actually interested in becoming a coach, but I thought this was pretty cool. I'd love to see him back on the bench for the Vols.
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bleedingTNorange said:
I don't know how big on form he is more than just repetition and practice. He always says guys just need to get shots up, should be in the gym everyday shooting...maybe that's how he got better so he expects it to work for others as well idk.
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That's one reason guys who are great players aren't always the best coaches. They either were (a) immensely physically talented and don't relate to guys who aren't or (b) were self motivated and to a great degree self-made and don't relate to guys who aren't motivated to do the same. I think Cuonzo was both, which is the best of all worlds. He was a top 40 high school senior who was recruited by everyone AND he was a workaholic.

You can see a bit in his coaching that he clearly prioritizes effort and work over scouting and strategy.
 
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germanicus said:
I don't know if Cuonzo thinks this in these terms, but it would be a fantastic PR move to bring Chris Lofton back to Tennessee as a member of the staff. Not only would he have credibility with the players and - we hope - have an ability to teach a bit about shooting - but he would be a great bridge to the previous success of the Pearl teams.

If Chris were interested, that would seem like a home run move to me.
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I'd take Bradshaw or young Summitt. But that's just me. They were both so intelligent about the game.
 
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Lofton was a great shooter but that doesn't mean he'd be a great shooting coach. CCM could shoot the 3 too, I think
 
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Being a great former player doesn't mean you make a good coach, just saying. But I like Cuonzo's idea of just get up more shots. If you are having to correct form at this level, then you aren't going to change anything.
 
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Lofton never struck me as the "future coach" type. He seemed too reserved and not very vocal from a leadership standpoint. He seemed to let his actions speak for him. That's not to say he wouldn't make a fine coach.
 
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iKrager said:
What I don't understand is that Cuonzo was a fantastic shooter for Purdue, he had even finished as the runner-up in the 3 point shooting contest, how has he not taught better 3 point shooting? As far as I'm concerned, I haven't noticed any changes with 'our' 3 point shooter other than McBee. You can tell this year the McBee was using a lot more moves than just catch and shooting, head fakes, pivot fakes, etc. Maybe more have progressed, maybe it's just our players basketball mentality. Who knows.
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Three's are more confidence and knowing when. They are taught these kids aren't making them. I get it though blame Zo because he was a good shooter. Sarcasm.
 
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germanicus said:
That's one reason guys who are great players aren't always the best coaches. They either were (a) immensely physically talented and don't relate to guys who aren't or (b) were self motivated and to a great degree self-made and don't relate to guys who aren't motivated to do the same. I think Cuonzo was both, which is the best of all worlds. He was a top 40 high school senior who was recruited by everyone AND he was a workaholic.

You can see a bit in his coaching that he clearly prioritizes effort and work over scouting and strategy.
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and you know this because? ? You're there at every practice? Or because the results aren't up to your expectations your conclusion is..
 
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darkgable said:
and you know this because? ? You're there at every practice? Or because the results aren't up to your expectations your conclusion is..
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Maybe a more fair way of saying it would have been, "in all of his statements, he prioritizes effort and effort and work over scouting and strategy." He's said more than once he'd rather have better players than better plays. And he never talks about technique with regard to defense or shooting, just effort and repetition. Unlike a lot coaches, Martin doesn't do a lot of breaking down of plays or talk Xs and Os in his press opportunities. You're right, though, I'm not at practice, so maybe it comes out there.
 
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K-town Vol Fan said:
Seriously? The coach is supposed to magically make everyone shoot light out? I doubt they teach much shooting form in college, it's a little too late.
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When I got to college my coach completely changed my shooting form. Best thing I ever did to improve my game.
 
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Before anything is said about the Jordan reference... he never shot over 18% from 3 in his first 4 seasons in the NBA. He'd go on to shoot 32.7% for his career.

And I can attest to how awful Lance Stephenson was at shooting 3's until this season on the Pacers.

Stephenson was 16/73 from 3 in college(21.9%).

Stephenson in his first NBA season was 0/5 from 3. In his second season was 4 of 30 from 3(13.3%). Now in his third season, he's 56 of 173(32.4%)

32.4% may not seem that great but given his recent success from behind the arc, that's quite an improvement. Plus, he doesn't turn 23 until September. If you can't teach a college player to shoot better, you're recruiting the wrong guys.
 
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