Local Las Vegas radio even bashes Fulmer

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The biggest trend I've seen occuring is informed individuals will slam Fulmer and usually follow up with comments about the program as a whole. I've heard "it's sad that with the caliber of coaches that the UT AD has, that it is has a massive anchor pulling them back with Fulmer" and I've heard a lot of times that his players bail him out many more times than he will help them out.
 
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Fulmer is nothing but a money hungry selfish baby who wants to leave on his own terms. If he really loved the program then he would call it quits but he is too selfish for that. Its hard to believe that he is making close to 3 million dollars a year and has nothing to show for it in the last 10 years. Whats it gonna take to get him out this year another blowout by Florida or Bama? I am honestly right now not even convinced we will make a bowl game this year, because we practically lost to a Div. II school Monday night.
 
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tennfanatic said:
Fulmer is nothing but a money hungry selfish baby who wants to leave on his own terms. If he really loved the program then he would call it quits but he is too selfish for that. Its hard to believe that he is making close to 3 million dollars a year and has nothing to show for it in the last 10 years. Whats it gonna take to get him out this year another blowout by Florida or Bama? I am honestly right now not even convinced we will make a bowl game this year, because we practically lost to a Div. II school Monday night.
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I'm fairly convinced that we'll have to sack hambone first, the summer contract extension made it clear to me. He doesn't have the nuts to can fulmer, even if we do get blown out again.

Get an AD thats more focused on winning championships than following the path of least resistance and then maybe we'll get some change.
 
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General Jack said:
I'm fairly convinced that we'll have to sack hambone first, the summer contract extension made it clear to me. He doesn't have the nuts to can fulmer, even if we do get blown out again.

Get an AD thats more focused on winning championships than following the path of least resistance and then maybe we'll get some change.
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Hell, with an AD that practically sails itself... his role is fairly nominal... i.e. he's not irreplaceable in the least.
 
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ukvols said:
You're lucky. Your first NC coach left just as his elite run was starting to lose steam. Ours stayed. Then, it was easy to push out the coach you didn't like, because he hadn't been there very long and also wasn't gaining much respect (frat incident).
If Spurrier had never left UF, I think your program would be in similar shape to ours right now.
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Spurrier's last game was a blowout victory in a BCS bowl. If he'd have stuck around, he'd have won the SEC several more times.
 
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DC Vol said:
Hell, with an AD that practically sails itself... his role is fairly nominal... i.e. he's not irreplaceable in the least.
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Agree. While Pearl was a great hire, and I'll give him credit for that... Hambone has really mishandled the football program.

I think goal #1 should be winning championships, and my take on his strategic agenda is that keeping Fulmer is priority #1. There was absolutely no need for that contract extension, I was severely critical of it at the time (even though I was still holding out hope that Fulmer was guiding us back upwards), and now I hate it even more.

We've got to have an AD that is provides objective governance and oversight, not one that is tied to our head coach at the hip.

That contract is going to be the end of Hambone.
 
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General Jack said:
Agree. While Pearl was a great hire, and I'll give him credit for that... Hambone has really mishandled the football program.

I think goal #1 should be winning championships, and my take on his strategic agenda is that keeping Fulmer is priority #1. There was absolutely no need for that contract extension, I was severely critical of it at the time (even though I was still holding out hope that Fulmer was guiding us back upwards), and now I hate it even more.

We've got to have an AD that is provides objective governance and oversight, not one that is tied to our head coach at the hip.

That contract is going to be the end of Hambone.
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I completely agree with your assessment on what an AD should be. The problem is Hambone is everything that an AD should not be. He is worried more about his friendship with Fulmer than winning championships. We all know Hamilton will not fire Fulmer, but will we eventually fire Hamilton? Do you think our President and Administration will eventually pull the plug on him this year?
 
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Is it possible that some big-money boosters have enough influence to force Fulmer's retention?
 
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kptvol said:
Spurrier's last game was a blowout victory in a BCS bowl. If he'd have stuck around, he'd have won the SEC several more times.
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Possibly.
I stand corrected as to the degree with which he was slowing down - he was no longer blowing everybody out and going 8-0 in the league every year.
But, UF is definitely now enjoying a fresh run under a new coach after having no trouble pushing out Zook, in comparison to the fact that Fulmer will likely be around for quite a few more years, like it or not.
 
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ukvols said:
Possibly.
I stand corrected as to the degree with which he was slowing down - he was no longer blowing everybody out and going 8-0 in the league every year.
But, UF is definitely now enjoying a fresh run under a new coach after having no trouble pushing out Zook, in comparison to the fact that Fulmer will likely be around for quite a few more years, like it or not.
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He for sure wouldn't have allowed Richt to take over the SEC East for a few years.
 
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pretty much the same on the radio here in Charlotte as well.......chocked it up to coaching, and most of the shows were pretty 'matter of fact' about it........

i don't think TN laying an egg against inferior opponents is a big surprise anymore.

and of course, given the proximity, CPF and Tommy Bowden are getting a lot of comparisions lately.
 
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tennfanatic said:
Fulmer is nothing but a money hungry selfish baby who wants to leave on his own terms. If he really loved the program then he would call it quits but he is too selfish for that. Its hard to believe that he is making close to 3 million dollars a year and has nothing to show for it in the last 10 years. Whats it gonna take to get him out this year another blowout by Florida or Bama? I am honestly right now not even convinced we will make a bowl game this year, because we practically lost to a Div. II school Monday night.
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I am upset as well. Fulmer HASN'T been getting it done, but this one of the most absurd, uninformed statements I
have ever heard. UCLA will go to a nice bowl this year and Neuheisal and Chow are excellent coaches. If you think UCLA doesn't recruit top notch athletes, then you need to educated yourself a little better.
 
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truefan said:
I am upset as well. Fulmer HASN'T been getting it done, but this one of the most absurd, uninformed statements I
have ever heard. UCLA will go to a nice bowl this year and Neuheisal and Chow are excellent coaches. If you think UCLA doesn't recruit top notch athletes, then you need to educated yourself a little better.
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Athlon had UCLA in its Top 30. That was with one QB out but not two.
 
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The Dude said:
I live in Knoxville and I never see or hear all these people who supposedly support Fulmer.
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Hmmm, that's interesting that he's not popular in his own backyard. You should give us more detail on this.
 
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Its always easy to second guess someone and blame the coach, but Fulmer wasen't out on the field so he can only do so much to get the guys to play well, and if they don't execute, thats their fault. I am not saying he is not to blame at all, but its 50-50 IMHO.
 
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molsen81 said:
Hmmm, that's interesting that he's not popular in his own backyard. You should give us more detail on this.
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I know it is unscientific, but if you go to each UT fan where I work (Knoxville), each one will say Fulmer needs to go. I am amazed at those who say Fulmer still has the support of 60% or 70% of the UT fans.
 
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T_N_T said:
Its always easy to second guess someone and blame the coach, but Fulmer wasen't out on the field so he can only do so much to get the guys to play well, and if they don't execute, thats their fault. I am not saying he is not to blame at all, but its 50-50 IMHO.
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There comes a time when one has to admit that the common denominator in all these seasons of underperforming is not the players, but the head coach and the few holdovers at the assistant positions.
 
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Godfatha said:
There comes a time when one has to admit that the common denominator in all these seasons of underperforming is not the players, but the head coach and the few holdovers at the assistant positions.
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True, but you can have the best coach in the world and your players can still play poorly. I'm not saying that Fulmer needs to stay or go, but if they do get someone else in there I woulden't expect it to fix things from day 1.
 
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T_N_T said:
True, but you can have the best coach in the world and your players can still play poorly. I'm not saying that Fulmer needs to stay or go, but if they do get someone else in there I woulden't expect it to fix things from day 1.
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I wouldn't expect that either. But the job for the next coach will be much easier if something is done before this place is left completely devoid of talent.
 
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Didnt see the other thread will post over there.
 
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Mark May from ESPN also made a statement tongiht that the new OC Dave Clawson should have run the ball more and that effected the outcome.
 
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Didn't Fulmer tell a story about some guy at a gas station? Yeah, Fulmer asked the guy at the gas station whether he was a vols fan or not. The guy said yes, but he won't be too happy with the football program until they get the Fulmer guy out of there.

Fulmer told this story as if he was going to prove this guy wrong. Way to jump ahead of yourself, buddy.

I don't like advocating a guy to lose his job, no matter how much or how little money he's making, but this loss was just way too ridiculous.

Go USA radio people for shedding light on our problem from coast to coast.
 
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tennfanatic said:
I completely agree with your assessment on what an AD should be. The problem is Hambone is everything that an AD should not be. He is worried more about his friendship with Fulmer than winning championships. We all know Hamilton will not fire Fulmer, but will we eventually fire Hamilton? Do you think our President and Administration will eventually pull the plug on him this year?
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I don't know, but I think removing Hamilton might be a necessary step. I haven't seen anything from him that leads me to believe he has the sack to fire fulmer... or even evaluate fulmer objectively.

Not holding him to the 2 SEC championships every 10 years was the first sign.

The irresponsible contract extension this past summer, in spite of the fact fulmer hadn't met the publicly stated aforementioned goals, was the second.
 
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