Listening to Finebaum yesterday

#51
#51
Hamilton acts as though the MCB is the one we wanted because it's the one we got. We would have taken the best bowl offered to us. End of story.

Since they have pushed the national championship game back to the tenth, no one really cares about New Year's bowls like they used to. They had some crappy bowl after the NC game for crying out loud last year.

We drew a good opponent for the MCB and I for one am glad that it's close enough for me to drive up and watch. The teams involved are what draw the ratings, and I guarantee you that the Vols fans will tune in by the 100 thousands.
 
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checkerboard03 said:
I'm curious what effect shifting the Outback bowl to 1 pm from 11 am will have on the GB ratings this year. It will probably hurt a bit since both will be Big10-SEC matchups and presumably draw similar audiences.

I will say that I doubt it would bring the GB down anywhere near the MCB rating you gave, though.
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I don't understand why we need 3 SEC-Big10 match-up and further don't understand why all 3 are played at the same time.
 
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bleedorange0037 said:
What I've read has the GB paying in excess of $2M this season with the the MCB paying in the $1.75M range.

As for TV, the MCB drew a 1.95 rating last season and the GB got a 3.95.

I'll agree that not all bowl games played after Jan. 1 are great, the BBVA Compass Bowl being an obvious example. However, the games on Jan 1 are still the upper crust of the bowls and have longstanding traditions. (The only exception to this is the bowl in Dallas that has been added to replace the Cotton Bowl)
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Keep in mind that last year's GB rating was probably due to Bobby Bowden's last game at Florida State, so the high rating could have been due to this. I remember the build-up to the game as always mentioning this.
 
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utvolpj said:
so the same fans complaining MH didn't get the Gator are the same ones who forced his hand? That's nice
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Can't we all just get along? We should be very thankful that our team won the last 4 games to get us "IN" a bowl. None of that was guaranteed and had they not worked their tails off we wouldn't have gotten a bowl bid. Some folks are never satisfied. Maybe when we have a record better than 6-6 we'll "DESERVE" a better bowl bid when we've earned it! Geeez! Personally,I think teams should have at least a 7-5 record to be in a bowl, but that's just me. Glad we're going to the MCB and not the toilet bowl (sitting at home moaning over what could have been). GBO!:birgits_giggle:
 
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volinbham said:
A New Year's Day bowl is meaningless and Finebaum is a moron.
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Call him whatever you like, but Finebaum is not a moron. His is a very successful and now National sports show.
Smart and shrewd and an ass, but not a moron.
 
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#56
#56
There wouldn't be enough 7-5 teams to fill all the bowls. There were barely enough teams taking those that were 6-6!
 
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#58
look at the bowl schedule, something like 8 teams play with in 2 hours of their campus. i thought the bowls main selling point was that it's the reward for a good season? how are these teams being rewarded by playing so close to home? they are not getting the vacation experience as promised. ut plays in tennessee, gators play in fla,baylor plays in houston,and so on and so on. they are playing in the bowls close to home to generate $$$$$$$$$$$$ and thats it. nothing more nothing less,$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
 
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iambruce said:
I would rather go to the Gator but i certainly dont think we are "entitled" to go there. If everything was fair georgia would be in the music city bowl, they finished 4-4 in the SEC. But that isnt how the system works.
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I'm with you, but once you fall below the Chicken, no one much cares. Birmingham is only the least desirable because it's so late, IMO.
 
#60
#60
Every bowl game that isn't a BCS game is equally irrelevant now. The BCS has made the historical distinction between NYD bowls and everything else an anachronism. Fretting about the different levels of prestige between the Gator and Music City bowls is like a bride throwing a hissy fit about her wedding invitations. It just doesn't matter.
 
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#61
i keep seeing the school gets millions of dollars, i don't think so. the bowls makes them purchase the tickets, what they don't sell they eat. the school pays for the hotel rooms for the team and coaches. 2 kids per room at 80 kids, 40 rooms at 60.00 (if they get a discount). 1 coach per room,8 rooms or suites at 80 to 100. plus all the food and rooms for the a.d., and who ever else. my point is it cost a lot of money to go to the bowls, i think ut will make about 200,000 to 250,000 out of ever million. maybe correct me if i'm wrong.
 
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bleedorange0037 said:
What I've read has the GB paying in excess of $2M this season with the the MCB paying in the $1.75M range.

As for TV, the MCB drew a 1.95 rating last season and the GB got a 3.95.

I'll agree that not all bowl games played after Jan. 1 are great, the BBVA Compass Bowl being an obvious example. However, the games on Jan 1 are still the upper crust of the bowls and have longstanding traditions. (The only exception to this is the bowl in Dallas that has been added to replace the Cotton Bowl)
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I suspect that Bowden's last game had a lot to do with the GB rating last year. That might be a peak for that bowl, not a norm
 
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bleedorange0037 said:
What I've read has the GB paying in excess of $2M this season with the the MCB paying in the $1.75M range.

As for TV, the MCB drew a 1.95 rating last season and the GB got a 3.95.

I'll agree that not all bowl games played after Jan. 1 are great, the BBVA Compass Bowl being an obvious example. However, the games on Jan 1 are still the upper crust of the bowls and have longstanding traditions. (The only exception to this is the bowl in Dallas that has been added to replace the Cotton Bowl)
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The GB was also on NBC last year and just so happened to double as Bobby Bowden's last game. You don't think there wasn't a nice little spike in viewership because of that?
 
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LA Vol said:
I don't think any UT fan felt entitled to the Gator Bowl, but "deserving" had nothing to do with bowls this year. Pecking order went out the window when the Cap One chose nine-win Bama over ten-win LSU and nine-win USC, who beat Bama H2H. Then the Outback chose seven-win Florida over nine-win USC, who beat Florida H2H in the Swamp. None of this "unfair" selection caused outrage until the Gator Bowl tried to pick the teams they wanted, like every other bowl did. Did any other conference step in? Did Iowa or South Carolina, who was spurned twice, demand that the bowls play "fair"?

According to Rivals, it was Slive that killed the deal for the Vols. To quote:

"Commissioner Mike Slive performed some arm twisting and, voila, the Gator Bowl took Mississippi State, as they should have.

Here's a quote from the Gator Bowl chairman: "We had a very pointed and transparent conversation with the commissioner and he gave us his perspective that Mississippi State was deserving of a New Year's Day bowl."[/B]

Translation: We wanted Tennessee because we thought they would have delivered bigger TV ratings, more fans and more money to the Jacksonville area, but the SEC office told us in no uncertain terms we had to take Mississippi State."

If the SEC wanted teams to go where they "deserved," they should have stepped in when disparity first arose or else kept out of it-- like they did last year. That's the only reason Vols fans take issue.
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Oh no. Now Slive hates us, too! lol
 
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bleedorange0037 said:
Please give me just one example of how the Music City Bowl is more pretigous than that Gator Bowl.

TV viewership?
Payout?
Longstanding tradition?
Bigger name opponent?
Vacation destination for fans and players?

Those are the criteria by which a bowls' prestige are often determined. Perhaps I have missed another one where the MCB trumps the Gator. Feel free to enlighten me on this matter.
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Last year the MCB was on a Wednesday, nobody watches football on Wednesday! Now, Thursday on the other hand is a great day for football!:thumbsup:
 
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1) This year, the MCB is on Thursday(a night that is usually reserved for college football anyway) by itself. True, our ratings would have been better in the GB playing Michigan, but the people watching the MCB will be watching just the MCB(if they want to watch football, that is) as compared to the GB viewers will be surfing(watching the Bama game, etc). IMO, better chance of a recruit(or future recruits) seeing who we are.
2)The GB is paying 2.75 million per team. The MCB is 1.75 per team. (Disclaimer: this is the data I found and may be off a little, but compared to last year, it sounds right.) We may get around $400,000 extra off the top(before the SEC split takes place) out of that extra million. Just guessing, we would spend more than that traveling to Jacksonville as compared to Nashville.
3)We will be spending our money in Tennessee as opposed to spending it in Florida. Now, you might think it would be a wash considering another team(MSU?)may have been coming to Nashville. However, if you consider how many UT travels and how many MSU travels, we would end up pumping more into the Florida economy than MSU would pump into ours. Now, you have a bunch of fans that would have spent $100* on the game (wings, pizza, beer, and in my case, wear and tear on the carpet) that will now be spending $300 (probably more*) because it is a bowl "they can go to". And all that money will stay in TN. Sales tax = happier governor. Now you are gonna tell me it was all MH's idea to go to the MCB? I, IMHO, don't for a second believe that.

*These estimates do not include any busted pillows, broken lamps, vet bills from kicking the dog, flowers for the wife the next day, bail, attorney fee's or any expenses that may or may not be attributed to the Vols playing bad, losing or even putting a bakers dozen on the field instead of the NCAA mandated 11 players.
 
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utvolpj said:
I realize LWS is enjoying "educating us kids on VN" but the wishy-washy style kind of makes me not buy it. Sorry, just my opinion

and if it happened like that then you can blame UT fans for being idiots and not MH. But don't let that slow you down
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I agree!:hi:
 
#71
#71
UT makes a ton of money in athletics. This is a year where the fans and University should just be happy ANY bowl is an option.

More fans (me and 20 of my other friends) will be going to Nashville than would be going to Jacksonville. It is a win/win for UT, players, fans, ME, ect!

Do not blame MH for this. He is not high my list as a favorite.....but the MCB is a viable option and is the right thing to do for all involved.....

Plus the fact......that game is the ONLY bowl game on at that time...you don't think potential recruits will be watching! Great on every scale!

Finebuam is still an idiot....and should have his diploma taken away!
 
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Since CDD will have TN back to great bowls every year soon, this may be TN only chance in decades to play in one of the TN bowl games, why not take it! I am pumped TN is in a bowl, and from CDD's comments I think he is happy the team has a short trip and will have a big fan advantage because he wants the W!
 
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#74
A weekend in Jacksonville watching a day game in 70 degree weather sounds more appealing than an overnighter in Nashville watching a night game in 30 degree weather. But that's just me.
 
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I read somewhere that the GB payout is $2.2M and the MCB payout is $2.15M. If true, I agree that the MCB would be a much better venue - more accessible to fans, home field advantage, easy commute for team/staff, etc.
 
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