Line judge that mysteriously stopped the play (Bammer?)

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I wish I could find the tweet. But the office has given Pruitt an explanation for stopping the game:

Again, wish I could find the exact verbiage...."the game was stopped to make sure the ball was spotted correctly." I looked a couple of days ago, I didn't see one official look at the ball placement once play was stopped.
 
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wtmvol said:
I don't know that brother-in-law constitutes "immediate family". However, the SEC has an obligation to remove any hint of bias where it can. Just like with Anthony Jordan, I expect after twitter is done blowing up over this that the SEC will quietly ship him out of conference to somewhere like the AAC and we won't hear any more about it.
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True, but it shows how tone deaf the SEC is. Bad optics.
 
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pimo1 said:
A brother in Law is not immediate family. If it was his sister it would be an issue, his sisters husband is not immediate family. This does not violate the letter of the rule.. but it is a weird gray area when it comes to the spirit of the rule.
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The official grew up in Birmingham. That should be enough to dig deeper and vet him. Just like someone from Cookeville should be vetted and not do UT games. Some have said there is an SEC official who lives in Sevier County, and he has never done a UT game.
This isn't difficult. Thoroughly vet these officials. This is big money, and the schools deserve it. There are competent people who have no prior ties to the SEC.
 
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Jake Tate said:
Just bc his brother in law is a bama fan, that really doesnt mean anything. My ex in-laws and I have very little in common.
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The official himself grew up in Birmingham. Part of the vetting process should indeed look into his entire family and their relationships. His brother in law has a picture with Lane Kiffin while at Bama.

Anthony Jordan graduated from Southern but grew up and went to high school in Baton Rouge. Yet, he was officiating LSU games.
 
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Just because someone is born somewhere or lives somewhere means nothing in and of itself. The rule is the rule. as far as whats been presented he has not broken it at all. Period. This is a pointless conversation and just people manufacturing drama where there is none.
 
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pimo1 said:
Just because someone is born somewhere or lives somewhere means nothing in and of itself. The rule is the rule. as far as whats been presented he has not broken it at all. Period. This is a pointless conversation and just people manufacturing drama where there is none.
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That is very naive. Some deep vetting would be nice.

You really think that an official living in Tuscaloosa or even Birmingham would have no effect on how he handles certain situations? It's human nature. You are surrounded by Alabama fans in your community and as long as you aren't a hermit, you make friends with people who have a vested interest in the school. You certainly don't want to be ridiculed by your community for making a mistake by calling something incorrectly against that school. Then, you top that with being related to a fan of the school.

The rule is the rule? What if the rule stinks?

Obviously, the SEC thought there was merit to the criticism against Anthony Jordan because they didn't let him work an SEC game the rest of the year. Again, this isn't difficult stuff. Very basic to vet these things.
 
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rjd970 said:
The brother is mad, and his Tennessee hate is very real.

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I swear if the SEC doesn't investigate this then they are the absolute worst gutless spineless POS corrupt organization ever.
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A smart person would stay off social media after this discovery, but he keeps digging the hole making it look even worse.

I can just tell you that my job has shown me that every person has a bias toward something. Some are just inherent, and not really your fault. But where you are from, who you have relationships with, and how you are raised influence biases. An organization like the SEC can limit this by simply vetting the people they hire. I don't think they care though. It's just arrogance.
 
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Dr H Lecter said:
I was just getting over the crappy calls last Saturday and now this total BS. Ticks me off again!
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I’m still nowhere near over that debacle. I know I have to get through it, but just pissed and it isn’t going away. Our boys deserved a fair chance and they did not get it.

If I remember correctly, the biased officiating started after Tua left the game. Like the officials figured we had a legitimate shot after that happened and realized Bama needed some calls to go their way.
 
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hog88 said:
And none will care.
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You are exactly right. Even UT does not care as long as they are taking in the dough from the fans. As I said earlier this week. The SEC is the WWE of college athletics. The SEC needs to take action and they can start by firing Steve Shaw since he is directly responsible for conference officiating.
 
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allvol123 said:
Damn. That brother in law is a damn idiot for even engaging. They are poster children Bama fans. Dumb as hell.
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Here's the thing....The BIL is not direct family and is certainly free to believe whatever he wants and root for whoever he wants. I think it is past stupid for him to engage and further inflame the situation. But if he wants to dig that hole, then more power to him. He verified a lot of what was only speculation up to this point. Better to remain silent than remove all doubt, but here we are.

So....

...the bottom line is there was a questionable stoppage of play at a critical moment when it seemed like Bama was caught off-guard. The official who stopped it obviously has close family that are die-hard bama fans and obviously still hate and resent Tennessee, even after winning 13 in a row. The same brother who hates Tennessee is also the same one who congratulated the official on a great called game. The hate is very real...the bama fan ties are very real...the call (among many others) was very questionable...the explanation (verify the ball spot) doesn't pass the sniff test...and the same brother that is talking about Tenn fans working at walmart and throwing insults around also think it was a finely officiated bama game.

Tennessee fans, and quite frankly other fans too, should be upset over this. Even moreso now. Bama was nowhere close to 22 points better than Tennessee Saturday night and officiating was a huge part of it.
 
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I've tried to move on but since this keeps going ..... (I haven't read the whole thread) .... Was this the same line judge who gave the Vols a bad spot near the goal line after either the 1st down run by Jordan, or 2nd down run that immediately preceded JG's 4th down debacle?
 
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#68
Do the right thing SEC, reverse the game and give the Vols a W.
 
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UTK said:
Do the right thing SEC, reverse the game and give the Vols a W.
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I would settle for an acknowledgement of impropriety, or at the very least, an apology from the SEC for a completely botched job.
 
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It’s his brother wearing the Alabama shirt and in the picture. Still nothing against the rules about that
 
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rjd970 said:
I would settle for an acknowledgement of impropriety, or at the very least, an apology from the SEC for a completely botched job.
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What did they botch? They didn’t miss the calls on the field.
 
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bigdaddy said:
What did they botch? They didn’t miss the calls on the field.
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But they are ultimately responsible. It shouldn't be expected the officials themselves apologize, so the next line up would be the conference front office, or Steve Shaw.

It's also clear that the vetting process needs to be looked at and they botched that.
 
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bigdaddy said:
It’s his brother wearing the Alabama shirt and in the picture. Still nothing against the rules about that
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Agreed, but that isn't really the point.

Can you confirm that the official himself didn't grow up a big Alabama fan? And why isn't there a vetting of this?
 
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rjd970 said:
But they are ultimately responsible. It shouldn't be expected the officials themselves apologize, so the next line up would be the conference front office, or Steve Shaw.

It's also clear that the vetting process needs to be looked at and they botched that.
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How? In the case if Jordan he had LSU gear on himself. This is dudes brother and nowhere does it say that your relatives can’t be fans of schools you ref. This is a reach and vol fans look silly
 
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bigdaddy said:
How? In the case if Jordan he had LSU gear on himself. This is dudes brother and nowhere does it say that your relatives can’t be fans of schools you ref. This is a reach and vol fans look silly
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First off, Jordan didn't break any of the conflict of interest rules either. As far as I remember he wasn't enrolled, his immediate family wasn't enrolled, and he had no family members working for the university. And further, it isn't breaking any stated rule when you wear fan gear. Jordan was removed due to viewed impropriety instigated from questionable calls. Not for breaking any stated rule.

Most of us are asking for the same thing here. It's obvious his family is big Bama fans, so why is it so silly to ask for this to be vetted in a similar way?
 
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