Like him or not, Derek Dooley deserves respect

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Dooley stepped into a very difficult position. There is no manual to tell a person how to get a program back on the rails once it has run as far off the rails as it had. Has he made some mistakes? Yes. But I dare say there are very few people out there that could have done it any better up to this point. If anyone has some names of people who were interested in the job that they think could have done a better job I would be like to hear the names. Not trying to sound like a smart**s, but with all the talk of firing Dooley who would the replacement be?
 
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govolswb said:
My personal opinion is that the main problem in the KY game last season was the defense wasn't ready which shouldn't be as much of an issue this season since we have our new DC. I never beleived Wilcox was up to the challenge of DC in the SEC from week to week. He did have some good defensive games at BState, but most of their games were won not by a smothering defense but by outscoring their opponents and great special teams play. I know someone is going to say that Sunseri has not been a DC in the SEC either, but he has been coaching on the defensive side of the ball and understands what a defense in the SEC needs to be.
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I like Sal. I love his style. I hope he gets it done.

The defense wasn't prepared initially, I agree, but they recovered enough to win. They only gave up 10 points. That should be good enough to beat KY any year. I put the loss on the offense and play calling. The decision to jump into the wildcat after a beautiful drive is indefensible, and it cost us an opportunity at a fg attempt at least(don't get me started on our fg unit...). The total lack of effort, fire, and/or pride was what concerned me the most. The team in general and the offense particularly laid down and quit. It's hard if not nearly impossible to recover from that unless starting with a mostly clear slate of players.
 
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govolswb said:
Dooley stepped into a very difficult position. There is no manual to tell a person how to get a program back on the rails once it has run as far off the rails as it had. Has he made some mistakes? Yes. But I dare say there are very few people out there that could have done it any better up to this point. If anyone has some names of people who were interested in the job that they think could have done a better job I would be like to hear the names. Not trying to sound like a smart**s, but with all the talk of firing Dooley who would the replacement be?
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I'm not trying to be a smartass either. Please don't take it that way.

The nobody else would have us attitude is troublesome to me. It reminds me of battered wife syndrome. I think that line of thinking is a slap in the face to UT. It's does the storied program a gross disservice. We were pretty low, but the program still had tons to offer. Was it a difficult sale? Absolutely. Is Dooley the only candidate that would have taken the job? No. Kevin Sumlin was very interested. He very well could have done no better, but there were others interested. Hammy was looking to make as quick of a hire as possible. That was a huge factor.
 
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thebjd said:
Why people think he took a risk is baffling. He hit the lottery with this gig. We have to hope he can be successful.
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It was a huge risk! What if he hadn't landed Justin Hunter and DaRick Rogers on short notice? Both of those were Dooley Hail Marys which were never coming here before he arrived. Oh wait... we had Ambles. We would have been fine. lol.
 
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sjt18 said:
Kidding, right? The program was set up for failure. Terrible roster, two weeks from NSD, looming NCAA problems, tarnished image, poor instate recruiting base with relationship problems at schools that produce talent like Brentwood, incredibly tough schedule for the first two years... and the likelihood that he would only get 3 years before fans demanded the turnaround be complete.

His option was to stay at LT. After their performance this year, he would have been credited with a great turnaround, impressive resume, and been in line for a better gig... a big program without the problems.
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no way. Dooley would have probably got a better job in a year or two, but it wouldn't have been an SEC high profile coaching position. So, he did hit a small jack pot. However, his lack of high profile positions has played to his advantage.
Dooley has the easiest schedule in the last 4 years and he is returning most of the starters. It is a good year to prove yourself. Especialy for Dooley
 
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It would be amazing to see DD win some games this season and get a full head of steam in recruiting. Once that snowball gets going, we could be in for a long and fruitful partnership with CDD. I do believe 100% that this year is make it or break it though. The proverbial fork in the road.
 
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I just think its funny people will think DD will be fired if he wins 5 or games he won't Hart wont do it...DD is just about to start his 3rd year he still doesn't have a team he can fully call his own players he only got a 5 year contract I don't see Hart shelling out money to his contract then hiring someone else and setting UT back again...jmo
 
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Vols4life said:
I just think its funny people will think DD will be fired if he wins 5 or games he won't Hart wont do it...DD is just about to start his 3rd year he still doesn't have a team he can fully call his own players he only got a 5 year contract I don't see Hart shelling out money to his contract then hiring someone else and setting UT back again...jmo
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5 wins? Not sure if serious. If he only gets 5, Hart will not only fire him, he will either execute or deport him
 
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peyton4heisman said:
5 wins? Not sure if serious. If he only gets 5, Hart will not only fire him, he will either execute or deport him
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I was just saying in context I know this team is more than capable of winning more than 5 but people acting like he is going to get fired if he doesn't win enough...I think this team will be undefeated then lose in the SECCG against LSU
 
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thebjd said:
Why people think he took a risk is baffling. He hit the lottery with this gig. We have to hope he can be successful.
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i disagree. he was given the task of putting out a forest fire with a waterbucket. hardly a lottery win IMO.
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ReelfootVol said:
Let's be real candid. Lots of the reason he was hired was because he was Vince Dooley's son ! Now, it is time to prove his worth as a self made coach. Not relying on his namesake ! So far, I honestly think he has proved himself as an equal to any coach in terms of recruiting. Especially with a program that has not seen success in many years. We cannot continue to rely on what happened 10 years ago to be successful in the future. I continue to feely Dooley is on the right track.
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Let's be candid... the reason he was hired was because he was the only one who would take the job at such a late date and Hamilton was not going to make another "risky" hire like Kiffin. Dooley was a safe bet. Dooley was not splashy and a renegade. He at least acted mature and business like.
 
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orangegrass said:
the reason he was hired was because he was the only one who would take the job at such a late date
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not likely---the UT job would attract top coaches from all over the country--millions in salary, coaching in the best conference in the u.s., tons of benefits, ...
 
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JayVols said:
He won't need another shot. He's set for life regardless the outcome.

Again, how's that risky?
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If you are like me this is a no brainer. Not saying I totally disagree with you, but most head coaches are not like you or me. Maybe risk was the wrong word.

Answer this question and maybe you can see where the OP was going. Why were not any coaches with even the slightest bit of success lining up for this job?
 
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jp1 said:
If you are like me this is a no brainer. Not saying I totally disagree with you, but most head coaches are not like you or me. Maybe risk was the wrong word.

Answer this question and maybe you can see where the OP was going. Why were no coaches with even the slightest bit of success not lining up for this job?
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You may have it answered right there.

I would go with it being a big risk for those that have had some success thus lowering your chance of getting a guy that has other options.

If Dooley was being circulated or eyed for other top 20 jobs when he took this job then he may have gambled coming here considering the circumstances. Im not sure that was the case tho.
 
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