Lights On - TN QBs

#26
#26
utgibbs said:
Volnation,

The QB spot has been spotty for UT since Casey graduated. But, we've seen some "lights on" moments from our QBs in the past.

Tee Martin almost single-handedly lost to Auburn in 1998 (and looked very MEH in the first part of the season) before having a "lights on" moment against Georgia and never looking back.

Ainge, after going into vapor lock for all of 2005, comes out in 2006 with "lights on."

Although I was skeptical at the time, Crompton had a "lights on" moment late against Auburn last year, and he was transformed from one of the most reviled Vols of all time to an NFL QB (finally, and well, I think he will get picked up).

On Saturday, did we see a "lights on" moment from Simms in the second half? It may still be early, but I think so. What does Vol Nation think, and what could it mean for the season?
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Nice try, really...I mean it.

There were no LIGHTS ON MOMENT for Simms. Not even close....can you suggest where you may have seen this happen?

Simms has zero pocket presents...is slow to recognize the rush, does not lead his receivers well, and while he did evade one or two blitzes....this certainly is not much of a aha moment.

But NTL we will keep our light on for him....waiting for that moment to arrive.
 
#27
#27
kptvol said:
You take back some dropped passes from Gerald Jones and Denarious Moore and Crompton has himself 3 TDs and 300 yards that VT game. He threw for twice as many yards against UGA as Zach Robinson managed.

And Crompton's play against Ole Miss was filet mignon compared to some of the garbage we've seen from UT QBs of late. Over 50% with 2 TDs and no INTs against an SEC defense. I'll take it.
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Yeah that D Moore drop was obviously a killer against VT, but throwing a bomb to a wide open receiver again doesn't really convince me he played a great game at QB. Not to mention he threw his trademark brutal interception early that put us behind the eightball. Excuses are great, but in the end you can only go on what actually took place.

Just because Crompton started playing at a competent level which meant he didn't fumble every third snap and padded his stats against either bad teams or when we were trying to play catch up doesn't convince me the lights came on. Sorry.
 
#28
#28
Also, you'll take losing 42-17 to Ole Miss? Lol. Ok. And I know he doesn't play defense, but it doesn't help your depleted defense when you go 3 and out every possession.
 
#29
#29
SeanJean said:
Yeah that D Moore drop was obviously a killer against VT, but throwing a bomb to a wide open receiver again doesn't really convince me he played a great game at QB. Not to mention he threw his trademark brutal interception early that put us behind the eightball. Excuses are great, but in the end you can only go on what actually took place.

Just because Crompton started playing at a competent level which meant he didn't fumble every third snap and padded his stats against either bad teams or when we were trying to play catch up doesn't convince me the lights came on. Sorry.
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We lost to VT because we couldn't stop the run, period. Moore and Jones each dropping a TD pass didn't help things. I actually think one of them dropped two touchdowns.
 
#30
#30
SeanJean said:
Also, you'll take losing 42-17 to Ole Miss? Lol. Ok. And I know he doesn't play defense, but it doesn't help your depleted defense when you go 3 and out every possession.
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The QB play isn't what got us the thrashing. Regardless, you're arguing Crompton played like garbage in those games. He didn't.
 
#31
#31
If Simms could only transform into clausen for the month of October. 3 out of 4 on the road.
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#32
#32
kptvol said:
We lost to VT because we couldn't stop the run, period. Moore and Jones each dropping a TD pass didn't help things. I actually think one of them dropped two touchdowns.
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We put 14 points on the board against VT and consistently could not move the ball against them, and again, early turnovers in a bowl game by your QB simply kill you. If you throw a pick on your first possession against a team like VT that thrives on turnovers, I consider that playing like garbage. If you answer and put up a lot of points, I take it back, but he didn't. Either way, he most definitely didn't play well. Whether he played "poorly" or simply "average" is splitting hairs. Neither one wins you games against good teams.

Same goes against Ole Miss. He didn't play well. Whether it was garbage or simply forgettable is beside the point. I know McCluster had about 5000 yards in that game, but we did nothing, and I mean nothing on offense against them.
 
#33
#33
The lights better come on for Simms or it will be a 0-4 October. I'll go ahead and say it. They don't beat Georiga they're going 0-4. Forget LSU , their O -line will mash a undersized Tennessee D-line.
 
#34
#34
SeanJean said:
We put 14 points on the board against VT and consistently could not move the ball against them, and again, early turnovers in a bowl game by your QB simply kill you. If you throw a pick on your first possession against a team like VT that thrives on turnovers, I consider that playing like garbage. If you answer and put up a lot of points, I take it back, but he didn't. Either way, he most definitely didn't play well. Whether he played "poorly" or simply "average" is splitting hairs. Neither one wins you games against good teams.
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He threw enough TD passes to win the game against VT. Our receivers didn't catch enough and our defense didn't tackle enough.

Teams recover from early INTs pretty frequently.
 
#35
#35
Ok. If you say so. I'll take a QB who actually wins games and doesn't either consistently have us playing from behind (early INTs) or fade into the background of blowouts against good teams. Just me though.
 
#36
#36
Crompton had the benefit of being so mind-numbingly awful for most of his career, that anything he did even remotely well at any moment suddenly looked incredible. In the end though, he just wasn't that good. Seems like a nice guy, and again, I hope he proves me wrong, but I never saw it.
 
#38
#38
Cartervol said:
The lights better come on for Simms or it will be a 0-4 October. I'll go ahead and say it. They don't beat Georiga they're going 0-4. Forget LSU , their O -line will mash a undersized Tennessee D-line.
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Even if we beat UGA we are going 1-3. But I do like our chances against UGA if our run game is solid and Simms doesn't make mistakes.
 
#39
#39
zjcvols said:
Even if we beat UGA we are going 1-3. But I do like our chances against UGA if our run game is solid and Simms doesn't make mistakes.
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Do you mean if they don't beat them? You're kind of saying the same thing i am otherwise. I don't think they have much of a shot at the other 3 in October.
 
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#40
#40
I think we have a shot against LSU. They are offensively challenged just like we are, so it could just be whoever makes the most mistakes. That will probably be us, but you never know.
 
#41
#41
SeanJean said:
Ok. If you say so. I'll take a QB who actually wins games and doesn't either consistently have us playing from behind (early INTs) or fade into the background of blowouts against good teams. Just me though.
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So pretty much you're saying he's every other QB we've had this decade. Got it.
 
#44
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SeanJean said:
I don't see how that is relevant to this conversation at all. I'm not talking about other QBs. I'm talking about Crompton.
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Right. And in the games you said he played like garbage, he actually played fairly average. In comparison to the UT QB play of the 2000's, maybe even slightly above average.
 
#45
#45
Simms showed better awareness in the pocket against Florida. I think he's improving slowly. I hope to see it continue. He needs a solid game against UAB to get confidence going into LSU. UTM was not a solid game by him. Ignore that 50-0 score. The passing game looked shaky. I think he's improved a little every game this season. I'll take that.
 
#46
#46
jlovevols said:
Simms showed better awareness in the pocket against Florida. I think he's improving slowly. I hope to see it continue. He needs a solid game against UAB to get confidence going into LSU. UTM was not a solid game by him. Ignore that 50-0 score. The passing game looked shaky. I think he's improved a little every game this season. I'll take that.
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He had better improve ALOT every game.Our QB play has been worse than aweful.
 
#48
#48
Problem #1: Offensive Line. Good news: we are now staring all underclassmen. Oh, wait....

You can't expect a new QB to do much with a line that doesn't give him much time or the chance for receivers to make a move or two.

I'm not saying that Simms has played "well," but what did you expect?
 
#49
#49
Dude, what are you talking about. I couldn't stand Casey Clausen. His attitude was lousy, he was full of himself, he couldn't win the big game and he would always blame things on his teammates. You could see it during the games. I actually used to call him "Hollywood Clausen" because every time he dropped back to pass he was posing for the cameras.
 
#50
#50
orangespirit said:
If Simms could only transform into clausen for the month of October. 3 out of 4 on the road.
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Simms has the cockiness of Clausen judging by his interviews, and marginally better measurables IMO. However, Clausen was probably the best pure gamer, outside of PM, UT is likely to see in a long while. Never will forget the elevator conversation between him and Fulmer in Gainesville.
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