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#77
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peddi631 said:
Just another stupid thread full of emotion. I THINK Coach Fulmer made a good hire and I plan to give him the time he needs to rebuild this mess.
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Can you imagine how hard it must have been for CPF to stay quiet while Butch brought in these lightweight O linemen. He had to know that won’t work in the SEC.
 
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Big Al Orange said:
Can you imagine how hard it must have been for CPF to stay quiet while Butch brought in these lightweight O linemen. He had to know that won’t work in the SEC.
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As an opposing DC he was probably happy butch was bringing in sheep for his slaughter.
Edit: read that as CJP not CPF, my bad.
 
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BloomuVol said:
I love how you type all these words, and come up with this big scenario just to cover up the fact that your precious little feelings got hurt because a grown man didnt say that doing something was the greatest thing ever, you have even said he could lie and you wouldn't care. My question is do you want a coach or someone to fluff your ego? Gtfo with this stupid ******** of some beta ass male not liking the coach because he is too alpha and wont take your feelings into account.
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This all day long. Let the guy do his job. We have two conference wins this year that most people didn’t expect us to get. Came really close to a third. And most of us admit that the effort on the field has been inconsistent at best. If you’d have told me prior to the season that we’d be 5-5 going into our last two games, I’d have been happy with that. So how about we stop moaning and complaining and put your butt in a seat for our last game of the year? CJM said it well when he called out the “legions of the miserable.” OP is their president.
 
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Yes I like our coach. He is direct to the point and tells it how it is.

What else do you want him to be?

He has two SEC wins over ranked opponents. In his first year after Butch went 4-8. We have the possibility to go 7-6 with a win over Vanderbilt.

He had the same players from last year that Butch did and has improved them enough to have that record as a first time head coach.

What other magic do you want the man to work?

Do you just want him to be happy go lucky all the time? Even after loses? Then you would be saying “Pruitt doesn’t even care that we lost what is he teaching our guys.....”

How about you give the man a year and let him show you what real development looks like?

He is now approaching roughly 10 months with this team..... not even 1 year and you want him to work miracles and become SEC relevant that fast?

He is now on his first actual recruiting class which is looking to be a good one.

How about be rational and stop being a millennial.... (I am a millineal in birth but not in how I was raised or brought up in sports)

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ice said:
Deep down in my heart I don`t think Pruitt will get it done here like TN fans expect. He has the personality of a ground hog. I think we have another mediocre coach.
When another team scores 50 points on you, something is bad wrong. Unless it is Bama.
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I'll take a groundhog personality that can develop players and teams instead of a snake oil salesman who cant recruit SEC capable lineman or QB's.
 
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#82
He may end up being a great coach, but his attitude still sucks. And right now we’re 5-6, so at this point he has plenty to work on.
 
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VolAllen said:
I know a lot of you are internet tough guys and actual conversation is far less likely than getting flamed. I don't hold it against you, it's just the East Tennessean fighter blood that flows through your veins. And no, this isn't a "knee jerk" reaction after a loss thread. This is a legitimate question/concern/conversation/get the gears in your head turning thread.

Do any of you guys actually like our coach? I know winning cures all. But I mean do you actually like the dude? Dig deep. Actually think about the question. Are you proud to call Jeremy Pruitt the coach of our beloved Vols? Or did Fulmer and our university totally just whiff the hell out of this thing the way they always do?

It would be fair to wait until the end of the season to judge, and even then seems a bit premature. But I'm not necessarily talking about his win/loss record. I'm talking about him as a representative of our program. Forget the 5-6 start. I can look beyond that.

Most of you are going to throw hateful things in my direction and tell me to go back to my momma's basement, but some numbers tell me that others may feel the same.

2009, Lane Kiffin's first and only season. 7-6 record. We averaged 100,000 fans in the seats.

2010, Dools first season. 6-7 record. We averaged 100,000.

2013, Butch Jones first season. 5-7 record. We averaged 96,000.

2016, Butch Jones best season. 9-4 record. 101,000 average attendance.

2018, Jeremy Pruitt's first season. 5-6 record. 92,869 average attendance. 3 games didn't even hit 90k.

There should be a spike in enthusiasm for a coach's first season, so why such a large drop in attendance? Lane obviously got fans excited. I remember it vividly. He was the first coaching change I had experienced and it was a feeling of new blood and a new era. Dooley received far less enthusiasm from the fans, but it was expected given the sudden and strange departure of Kiffin. Butch came in and really had the fan support. He said all the right things, knocked recruiting out of the park, beat Steve Spurrier in his first season. Hell, he crushed it.

Pruitt. It irked the hell out of me the way he answered Bob's question in the 2nd episode of The JP Show regarding running through the T for the first time. I stated that it bothered me right after it happened in the JP Show thread and caught some heat for it. Guess what? It still bothers me. Even more so now that we're 5-6. "It was uhhh....different", was the line. Mind you, this episode was following a win. It wasn't after getting straight whipped by West Virginia. No. It was after beating lowly ETSU, Pruitt's first win as the Tennessee head coach. His attitude sucks, and it's not good for business.

Do I like Pruitt more than Schiano? You're damn right I do. Do I like him more than Mike Leach? Not even close. Les Miles? Nope. Dan Mullen? Hard to say. Butch Jones? I don't think so. Dooley? I'm not sure.

Win, and of course, I'll shut up. But Coach Pruitt, you're making $4,000,000 a year to coach football. Ideally, you're supposed to win the games. If you don't, however, at least give us the impression that you're a good dude and that you're happy to be in Knoxville. Because at the end of the day, you're still going to be rich, and we're still going to be sitting on cold, hard, metal bleachers hoping that things change.

I'll go on record right now and say I have doubts that this experiment is going to work out. I think Mike Leach, Les Miles, or Dan Mullen would have been a better choice. And I'm not saying fire the guy. That's not going to accomplish anything. But win or lose, I don't really like this dude, and I'm feeling super disconnected from Tennessee football because of it.

Flame away.
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You people that put these threads together like this DISGUST me. Pruitt is an excellent coach. He will be very successful here. You don't have a clue as to what it takes to be a good coach. Your stupid attendance stats above are, well STUPID!! You have no clue of how good the SEC is. You have no clue how good Missouri is. They are the 3rd or 4th best team in the SEC. You take away the two turnovers, the game would have been close. Tennessee probably would have lost, but it would have been a close game.

I've looked at a thread this morning where some egotistical elitist is concerned about Pruitt's use of words. I'm sure that guy has perfect English, and probably never had dirt on him his whole life.

I've looked at a thread this morning where one of you was trying to make a big deal out of Pruitt missing his own show. Wow, let's fire him immediately for that. Let's not look into why he missed.

There are so many others like these. Negative and Stupid. Please stop posting. Go home to mommy and eat your milk and cookies and take a nap.
 
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#86
As some have alluded to, I think it's more of an indicator of how the fan perception of the program has slid moreso than the coach...the deeper the hole, the longer it will take to claw back to daylight and all. As for Pruitt, I think he's ok and it will take a solid 2-3 more years to really see what he can do with the program.
 
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VolAllen said:
I know a lot of you are internet tough guys and actual conversation is far less likely than getting flamed. I don't hold it against you, it's just the East Tennessean fighter blood that flows through your veins. And no, this isn't a "knee jerk" reaction after a loss thread. This is a legitimate question/concern/conversation/get the gears in your head turning thread.

Do any of you guys actually like our coach? I know winning cures all. But I mean do you actually like the dude? Dig deep. Actually think about the question. Are you proud to call Jeremy Pruitt the coach of our beloved Vols? Or did Fulmer and our university totally just whiff the hell out of this thing the way they always do?

It would be fair to wait until the end of the season to judge, and even then seems a bit premature. But I'm not necessarily talking about his win/loss record. I'm talking about him as a representative of our program. Forget the 5-6 start. I can look beyond that.

Most of you are going to throw hateful things in my direction and tell me to go back to my momma's basement, but some numbers tell me that others may feel the same.

2009, Lane Kiffin's first and only season. 7-6 record. We averaged 100,000 fans in the seats.

2010, Dools first season. 6-7 record. We averaged 100,000.

2013, Butch Jones first season. 5-7 record. We averaged 96,000.

2016, Butch Jones best season. 9-4 record. 101,000 average attendance.

2018, Jeremy Pruitt's first season. 5-6 record. 92,869 average attendance. 3 games didn't even hit 90k.

There should be a spike in enthusiasm for a coach's first season, so why such a large drop in attendance? Lane obviously got fans excited. I remember it vividly. He was the first coaching change I had experienced and it was a feeling of new blood and a new era. Dooley received far less enthusiasm from the fans, but it was expected given the sudden and strange departure of Kiffin. Butch came in and really had the fan support. He said all the right things, knocked recruiting out of the park, beat Steve Spurrier in his first season. Hell, he crushed it.

Pruitt. It irked the hell out of me the way he answered Bob's question in the 2nd episode of The JP Show regarding running through the T for the first time. I stated that it bothered me right after it happened in the JP Show thread and caught some heat for it. Guess what? It still bothers me. Even more so now that we're 5-6. "It was uhhh....different", was the line. Mind you, this episode was following a win. It wasn't after getting straight whipped by West Virginia. No. It was after beating lowly ETSU, Pruitt's first win as the Tennessee head coach. His attitude sucks, and it's not good for business.

Do I like Pruitt more than Schiano? You're damn right I do. Do I like him more than Mike Leach? Not even close. Les Miles? Nope. Dan Mullen? Hard to say. Butch Jones? I don't think so. Dooley? I'm not sure.

Win, and of course, I'll shut up. But Coach Pruitt, you're making $4,000,000 a year to coach football. Ideally, you're supposed to win the games. If you don't, however, at least give us the impression that you're a good dude and that you're happy to be in Knoxville. Because at the end of the day, you're still going to be rich, and we're still going to be sitting on cold, hard, metal bleachers hoping that things change.

I'll go on record right now and say I have doubts that this experiment is going to work out. I think Mike Leach, Les Miles, or Dan Mullen would have been a better choice. And I'm not saying fire the guy. That's not going to accomplish anything. But win or lose, I don't really like this dude, and I'm feeling super disconnected from Tennessee football because of it.

Flame away.
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Yes, I like him.
 
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I think Pruitt is a very decent person and football coach. Not sure he is a good head coach or he would have had the forethought to have hired experienced coordinators on his initial staff. There are times that this staff's inexperience, including Pruitt, hurts us. Just because you are a great coordinator does not necessarily equal a successful head coach. There have been too many examples of that.

After being told for the last 10 years that everything is the fans' fault, I could care less about the coach and who likes him. IIRC the fans had very little ability to make a choice on these hires. That goes back to 1970 when the AD hired Battle and the fans were pushing for Majors. Battle had never been a coordinator at I believe 27 at the time. Just an example of UT stupidity. It burned them then and it is becoming "who cares" now.

I really think that if Fulmer knew anything about being an AD he would have assessed the kind of talent that we had on this team before making a decision on a head coach. Pruitt was not a fit for the talent we had. I am one who very much welcomes the change back to smash mouth football but we needed more of a finesse coach to have any success this year.

In essence, I am saying that we have a rookie AD, hiring a rookie coach, hiring rookie coordinators. That is a recipe for disaster.
 
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onevol74 said:
I think Pruitt is a very decent person and football coach. Not sure he is a good head coach or he would have had the forethought to have hired experienced coordinators on his initial staff. There are times that this staff's inexperience, including Pruitt, hurts us. Just because you are a great coordinator does not necessarily equal a successful head coach. There have been too many examples of that.

After being told for the last 10 years that everything is the fans' fault, I could care less about the coach and who likes him. IIRC the fans had very little ability to make a choice on these hires. That goes back to 1970 when the AD hired Battle and the fans were pushing for Majors. Battle had never been a coordinator at I believe 27 at the time. Just an example of UT stupidity. It burned them then and it is becoming "who cares" now.

I really think that if Fulmer knew anything about being an AD he would have assessed the kind of talent that we had on this team before making a decision on a head coach. Pruitt was not a fit for the talent we had. I am one who very much welcomes the change back to smash mouth football but we needed more of a finesse coach to have any success this year.

In essence, I am saying that we have a rookie AD, hiring a rookie coach, hiring rookie coordinators. That is a recipe for disaster.
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Well said.
 
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VolAllen said:
I know a lot of you are internet tough guys and actual conversation is far less likely than getting flamed. I don't hold it against you, it's just the East Tennessean fighter blood that flows through your veins. And no, this isn't a "knee jerk" reaction after a loss thread. This is a legitimate question/concern/conversation/get the gears in your head turning thread.

Do any of you guys actually like our coach? I know winning cures all. But I mean do you actually like the dude? Dig deep. Actually think about the question. Are you proud to call Jeremy Pruitt the coach of our beloved Vols? Or did Fulmer and our university totally just whiff the hell out of this thing the way they always do?

It would be fair to wait until the end of the season to judge, and even then seems a bit premature. But I'm not necessarily talking about his win/loss record. I'm talking about him as a representative of our program. Forget the 5-6 start. I can look beyond that.

Most of you are going to throw hateful things in my direction and tell me to go back to my momma's basement, but some numbers tell me that others may feel the same.

2009, Lane Kiffin's first and only season. 7-6 record. We averaged 100,000 fans in the seats.

2010, Dools first season. 6-7 record. We averaged 100,000.

2013, Butch Jones first season. 5-7 record. We averaged 96,000.

2016, Butch Jones best season. 9-4 record. 101,000 average attendance.

2018, Jeremy Pruitt's first season. 5-6 record. 92,869 average attendance. 3 games didn't even hit 90k.

There should be a spike in enthusiasm for a coach's first season, so why such a large drop in attendance? Lane obviously got fans excited. I remember it vividly. He was the first coaching change I had experienced and it was a feeling of new blood and a new era. Dooley received far less enthusiasm from the fans, but it was expected given the sudden and strange departure of Kiffin. Butch came in and really had the fan support. He said all the right things, knocked recruiting out of the park, beat Steve Spurrier in his first season. Hell, he crushed it.

Pruitt. It irked the hell out of me the way he answered Bob's question in the 2nd episode of The JP Show regarding running through the T for the first time. I stated that it bothered me right after it happened in the JP Show thread and caught some heat for it. Guess what? It still bothers me. Even more so now that we're 5-6. "It was uhhh....different", was the line. Mind you, this episode was following a win. It wasn't after getting straight whipped by West Virginia. No. It was after beating lowly ETSU, Pruitt's first win as the Tennessee head coach. His attitude sucks, and it's not good for business.

Do I like Pruitt more than Schiano? You're damn right I do. Do I like him more than Mike Leach? Not even close. Les Miles? Nope. Dan Mullen? Hard to say. Butch Jones? I don't think so. Dooley? I'm not sure.

Win, and of course, I'll shut up. But Coach Pruitt, you're making $4,000,000 a year to coach football. Ideally, you're supposed to win the games. If you don't, however, at least give us the impression that you're a good dude and that you're happy to be in Knoxville. Because at the end of the day, you're still going to be rich, and we're still going to be sitting on cold, hard, metal bleachers hoping that things change.

I'll go on record right now and say I have doubts that this experiment is going to work out. I think Mike Leach, Les Miles, or Dan Mullen would have been a better choice. And I'm not saying fire the guy. That's not going to accomplish anything. But win or lose, I don't really like this dude, and I'm feeling super disconnected from Tennessee football because of it.

Flame away.
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Die hard fan does not mean never die. We have suffered through going on two decades of irrelevance, with a solid10 years of being a laughingstock. Of course there are empty seats. I tend to witness only big games. You would not believe the last win I witnessed.
Pruitt sounds exactly like what he is; Sand Mountain Alabama.
Compared to Majors and Fulmer, not much difference except he didn't wear orange as a kid. That could however be quite significant. No way to know yet...
 
#92
#92
VolAllen said:
I know a lot of you are internet tough guys and actual conversation is far less likely than getting flamed. I don't hold it against you, it's just the East Tennessean fighter blood that flows through your veins. And no, this isn't a "knee jerk" reaction after a loss thread. This is a legitimate question/concern/conversation/get the gears in your head turning thread.

Do any of you guys actually like our coach? I know winning cures all. But I mean do you actually like the dude? Dig deep. Actually think about the question. Are you proud to call Jeremy Pruitt the coach of our beloved Vols? Or did Fulmer and our university totally just whiff the hell out of this thing the way they always do?

It would be fair to wait until the end of the season to judge, and even then seems a bit premature. But I'm not necessarily talking about his win/loss record. I'm talking about him as a representative of our program. Forget the 5-6 start. I can look beyond that.

Most of you are going to throw hateful things in my direction and tell me to go back to my momma's basement, but some numbers tell me that others may feel the same.

2009, Lane Kiffin's first and only season. 7-6 record. We averaged 100,000 fans in the seats.

2010, Dools first season. 6-7 record. We averaged 100,000.

2013, Butch Jones first season. 5-7 record. We averaged 96,000.

2016, Butch Jones best season. 9-4 record. 101,000 average attendance.

2018, Jeremy Pruitt's first season. 5-6 record. 92,869 average attendance. 3 games didn't even hit 90k.

There should be a spike in enthusiasm for a coach's first season, so why such a large drop in attendance? Lane obviously got fans excited. I remember it vividly. He was the first coaching change I had experienced and it was a feeling of new blood and a new era. Dooley received far less enthusiasm from the fans, but it was expected given the sudden and strange departure of Kiffin. Butch came in and really had the fan support. He said all the right things, knocked recruiting out of the park, beat Steve Spurrier in his first season. Hell, he crushed it.

Pruitt. It irked the hell out of me the way he answered Bob's question in the 2nd episode of The JP Show regarding running through the T for the first time. I stated that it bothered me right after it happened in the JP Show thread and caught some heat for it. Guess what? It still bothers me. Even more so now that we're 5-6. "It was uhhh....different", was the line. Mind you, this episode was following a win. It wasn't after getting straight whipped by West Virginia. No. It was after beating lowly ETSU, Pruitt's first win as the Tennessee head coach. His attitude sucks, and it's not good for business.

Do I like Pruitt more than Schiano? You're damn right I do. Do I like him more than Mike Leach? Not even close. Les Miles? Nope. Dan Mullen? Hard to say. Butch Jones? I don't think so. Dooley? I'm not sure.

Win, and of course, I'll shut up. But Coach Pruitt, you're making $4,000,000 a year to coach football. Ideally, you're supposed to win the games. If you don't, however, at least give us the impression that you're a good dude and that you're happy to be in Knoxville. Because at the end of the day, you're still going to be rich, and we're still going to be sitting on cold, hard, metal bleachers hoping that things change.

I'll go on record right now and say I have doubts that this experiment is going to work out. I think Mike Leach, Les Miles, or Dan Mullen would have been a better choice. And I'm not saying fire the guy. That's not going to accomplish anything. But win or lose, I don't really like this dude, and I'm feeling super disconnected from Tennessee football because of it.

Flame away.
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Whether I "like" the guy or not is relevant. I just want to win. I don't care if our head coach is a Baptist Minister or an assassin. I don't care if he's a comedian or an Amway salesman. I don't care if he's a philanthropist or a cut-throat opportunist. I JUST WANT TO WIN FOOTBALL GAMES. That's the one an ONLY thing that I concern myself with when it comes to our coach.
 
#93
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PineyBluff Vol said:
Just look at what we have endured...
2018 Jeremy Pruitt (5-6) -2017 Brady Hoke (0-2), Butch Jones (4-6)-2016 Butch Jones (9-4)Music City Bowl-W -2015 Butch Jones (9-4)Outback Bowl-W -2014 Butch Jones (7-6)TaxSlayer Bowl-W -2013 Butch Jones (5-7)-2012 Derek Dooley (4-7), Jim Chaney (1-0)-2011 Derek Dooley (5-7)-2010 Derek Dooley (6-7)Music City Bowl-L-2009 Lane Kiffin (7-6)Chick-fil-A Bowl-L -2008Phillip Fulmer (5-7)- 2007 Phillip Fulmer (10-4)Outback Bowl-W-2006 Phillip Fulmer (9-4)Outback Bowl-L-2005Phillip Fulmer (5-6) -2004 Phillip Fulmer (10-3)Cotton Bowl-W-2003 Phillip Fulmer (10-3)Peach Bowl-L-2002-Phillip Fulmer (8-5)Peach Bowl-L-2001-Phillip Fulmer (11-2)Citrus Bowl-W19 -2000-Phillip Fulmer (8-4)Cotton Bowl-L20 -1999-Phillip Fulmer (9-3)Fiesta Bowl- 1998-Phillip Fulmer (13-0)Fiesta Bowl-W- 1997SEC1120.84620.8710.56537Phillip Fulmer (11-2)Orange Bowl-L 1996SEC1020.83316.122.78229Phillip Fulmer (10-2)Citrus Bowl-W- 1995-Phillip Fulmer (11-1)Citrus Bowl-W- 1994-Phillip Fulmer (8-4)Gator Bowl- 1993-Phillip Fulmer (9-2-1)Citrus Bowl- 1992 Johnny Majors (5-3), Phillip Fulmer (4-0)Hall of Fame Bowl-W- 1991 Johnny Majors (9-3)Fiesta Bowl-L-1990 Johnny Majors (9-2-2)Sugar Bowl-W- 1989 Johnny Majors (11-1)Cotton Bowl-W This is 1989 forward! The last 20 years have been pure Hell for Vol Fans. You expect people to enjoy what has been happening and expect their support? The old saying, "Don't Look A Gift Horse in the Mouth" seems appropriate when looking at Pruitt. He will get the job done, given time, whether you like him or not!
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Actually I would say the last 15 years, but I get your point.
 
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It blows my mind people think that they would be happy with Mike Leach if he was coaching my current team. People would be more mad that he couldn't do a serious interview or coaches show after a lost than they would over pruitt's indifference during coaches show.

For years we get mad about coach speak. We have a coach that is honest to a fault during press conferences and people are still upset.

The attendance numbers reflect a decade of dysfunction. It doesn't reflect a dislike for the coach.
 
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onevol74 said:
I think Pruitt is a very decent person and football coach. Not sure he is a good head coach or he would have had the forethought to have hired experienced coordinators on his initial staff. There are times that this staff's inexperience, including Pruitt, hurts us. Just because you are a great coordinator does not necessarily equal a successful head coach. There have been too many examples of that.

After being told for the last 10 years that everything is the fans' fault, I could care less about the coach and who likes him. IIRC the fans had very little ability to make a choice on these hires. That goes back to 1970 when the AD hired Battle and the fans were pushing for Majors. Battle had never been a coordinator at I believe 27 at the time. Just an example of UT stupidity. It burned them then and it is becoming "who cares" now.

I really think that if Fulmer knew anything about being an AD he would have assessed the kind of talent that we had on this team before making a decision on a head coach. Pruitt was not a fit for the talent we had. I am one who very much welcomes the change back to smash mouth football but we needed more of a finesse coach to have any success this year.

In essence, I am saying that we have a rookie AD, hiring a rookie coach, hiring rookie coordinators. That is a recipe for disaster.
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So you are saying to hire coaches based on the make up of a sub par roster talent wise? I'm sorry but are you retarded? Or is your last name Currie?
 
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VolAllen said:
Do any of you guys actually like our coach? I know winning cures all. But I mean do you actually like the dude? Dig deep. Actually think about the question. Are you proud to call Jeremy Pruitt the coach of our beloved Vols? Or did Fulmer and our university totally just whiff the hell out of this thing the way they always do?
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Likability is dangerously overrated. A study showed that most people would much rather work with an incompetent nice guy than a competent jerk. Then again, most people aren't responsible for results and mostly care about their working conditions.

Give me the competent jerk every day. Pruitt was hired to do a job, and if he does it - keep him. If he doesn't, replace him. Is Nick Saban likable? No. Is Mark Richt? Yes. Who would you rather have as coach? The most important metric, imo, is how the team is improving (or not) over time against quality competition. Give Pruitt some time to build a program. If he starts winning, I guarantee his blunt affect idiosyncracies will start to seem charming.
 
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Brave Volunteer said:
Whether I "like" the guy or not is relevant. I just want to win. I don't care if our head coach is a Baptist Minister or an assassin. I don't care if he's a comedian or an Amway salesman. I don't care if he's philanthropist or a cut-throat opportunist. I JUST WANT TO WIN FOOTBALL GAMES. That's the one an ONLY thing that I concern myself with when it comes to our coach.
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No Amway salesmen. Gotta draw the line somewhere. Lol
 
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BloomuVol said:
So you are saying to hire coaches based on the make up of a sub par roster talent wise? I'm sorry but are you retarded? Or is your last name Currie?
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The results speak for themselves. Retarded? Is that all you have? 5th grade response to facts.
 
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