Learning actual X and O's

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exactly.... The amount of prep time and the techniques that go into it and what you do against what look and what you do against what coverage.... If a person can understand the why behind the game it makes watching a lot more fun... A mental chest game is going on....

YES!

I remember watching a game this season and a corner over pursued on what he thought was going to be a screen play... He played it well for that very play but didn't play it well because the next play they fake a screen he again over pursued it and they dumped it right over his head for about a 30 yard gain before the safety got him out of bounds.
 
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YES!

I remember watching a game this season and a corner over pursued on what he thought was going to be a screen play... He played it well for that very play but didn't play it well because the next play they fake a screen he again over pursued it and they dumped it right over his head for about a 30 yard gain before the safety got him out of bounds.
That was probably a player going to a coach and saying that that guy is playing really aggressive and they could get him on that play... Gotta love it
 
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I think it is theNFL's Pat Kerwin who says: fans watch the ball , coaches watch the defense. He wrote a nice booklet about watching a game

Yea it is actually a good read if your wanting to start learning not assuming that you don't know by the way... But yea it's called "Take your eyes off the ball 2.0"
 
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Occasionally there are links on this site to a blog run by an ex UT assistant coach going into the x's and o's of a game. I remember a few of these about what Debord was doing on offense. A few years ago there was also some blog entries on this site by a poster named Ohiovol (I think that was his name) going position by position explaining things. Lots of x's and o's stuff in that. So it is out there if anybody wants to seek it out.

Ah, that takes me back.

I think I had two done, two more ready to go, and was working on another when my computer crashed and I lost a bunch of that and related files. After that, I couldn't do any work on it without getting so mad about the whole thing that I'd want to put a hammer to the computer.

Who knows though, I may end up resurrecting the series a bit. My biases will be as plainly obvious as they were then, with one future entry called "Why I Hate the Wing-T, and You Should Too".
 
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Ah, that takes me back.

I think I had two done, two more ready to go, and was working on another when my computer crashed and I lost a bunch of that and related files. After that, I couldn't do any work on it without getting so mad about the whole thing that I'd want to put a hammer to the computer.

Who knows though, I may end up resurrecting the series a bit. My biases will be as plainly obvious as they were then, with one future entry called "Why I Hate the Wing-T, and You Should Too".
Lol no love for the Wing T? Why (short version)
 
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Lol no love for the Wing T? Why (short version)

Short version?

I coached my offensive lines to be brutally physical, to the point that the defensive players would come off after a series and mentally question whether they want to go back out there again. And this was mostly in an option offense, where at least one defender would be left unblocked on all plays. I wanted them to know after one series that they were either going to get very confused or very obliterated.

To this end, I'd go through the first steps off the line endlessly. Individual time in practice was spent primarily around a perfect stance, perfect alignment, and perfect steps up into delivering a perfect blow and then sustaining it perfectly.

That's just on the line. I believe in straight-line attacking; most defensive players have done angle-type drills to learn how to chase down a ballcarrier, meaning that time spent dancing around in the backfield or making a bunch of moves out in space will do nothing except allow for a lot of defenders to close down the gaps and attack. The only person who could get away with this at all was Barry Sanders (because he could go from a stop to full speed in one step), and even he was buried for negative yardage a bunch of times.

The wing-T is built around these two core ideas that I strongly dislike. It gets linemen out into space, where first contact with a defender is made several steps after the first/second/third. This means that they'll fire off low, end up high, and then attempt to re-set low to engage a defender. Nice theory, but the vast majority of time it doesn't work in practice.

In addition, it forces both linemen and ballcarriers to make too many sweeping-type motions instead of straight attacking.

Consider the basic sweep out of the wing-T. You get a couple of linemen coming down the line, but they'll have to turn upfield at some point. That's not in a straight line, and it increases the chance that a pulling guard gets caught up in the wash before he even gets to his designated area. And then you have the same thing with the backs; they're going somewhat horizontal to the LOS, allowing the defense to read the play, seal the gaps, and attack.

I did get a great deal of enjoyment out of the the wing-T when other teams were running it and my defensive line was opposing it. Those were always a lot of fun.
 
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Short version?

I coached my offensive lines to be brutally physical, to the point that the defensive players would come off after a series and mentally question whether they want to go back out there again. And this was mostly in an option offense, where at least one defender would be left unblocked on all plays. I wanted them to know after one series that they were either going to get very confused or very obliterated.

To this end, I'd go through the first steps off the line endlessly. Individual time in practice was spent primarily around a perfect stance, perfect alignment, and perfect steps up into delivering a perfect blow and then sustaining it perfectly.

That's just on the line. I believe in straight-line attacking; most defensive players have done angle-type drills to learn how to chase down a ballcarrier, meaning that time spent dancing around in the backfield or making a bunch of moves out in space will do nothing except allow for a lot of defenders to close down the gaps and attack. The only person who could get away with this at all was Barry Sanders (because he could go from a stop to full speed in one step), and even he was buried for negative yardage a bunch of times.

The wing-T is built around these two core ideas that I strongly dislike. It gets linemen out into space, where first contact with a defender is made several steps after the first/second/third. This means that they'll fire off low, end up high, and then attempt to re-set low to engage a defender. Nice theory, but the vast majority of time it doesn't work in practice.

In addition, it forces both linemen and ballcarriers to make too many sweeping-type motions instead of straight attacking.

Consider the basic sweep out of the wing-T. You get a couple of linemen coming down the line, but they'll have to turn upfield at some point. That's not in a straight line, and it increases the chance that a pulling guard gets caught up in the wash before he even gets to his designated area. And then you have the same thing with the backs; they're going somewhat horizontal to the LOS, allowing the defense to read the play, seal the gaps, and attack.

I did get a great deal of enjoyment out of the the wing-T when other teams were running it and my defensive line was opposing it. Those were always a lot of fun.
That makes since... You feel the same about zone schemes then?... What steps do you teach your linemen... I'm guessing about six inch steps with three points of contact at the v neck of the defender with the head placement below te chin of the receiver... Do you want then to be completely balanced off the line or do you want them to have some lean into the defender... How do you teach your offensive linemen get off I guess would of been the easiest way to ask that...
 
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That makes since... You feel the same about zone schemes then?... What steps do you teach your linemen... I'm guessing about six inch steps with three points of contact at the v neck of the defender with the head placement below te chin of the receiver... Do you want then to be completely balanced off the line or do you want them to have some lean into the defender... How do you teach your offensive linemen get off I guess would of been the easiest way to ask that...
Also how do you feel about sniffers as it applies to blocking schemes?
 
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That makes since... You feel the same about zone schemes then?

Everything contains at least zone elements, otherwise you'd have O-line chasing a falling DL in a zone blitz up into oblivion.

I only like using one or two plays that involve a true zone scheme at all. I still want my guys teeing off on every defender they cross, but it's not the primary goal.

... What steps do you teach your linemen... I'm guessing about six inch steps with three points of contact at the v neck of the defender with the head placement below te chin of the receiver...

I forbid head contact completely. If a kid does it, he gets reminded of this fact. If he does it again, he'll be reminded at a louder volume. If he does it once more, he gets to go through a blocking drill with no helmet on.

They get the picture pretty quickly.

Do you want then to be completely balanced off the line or do you want them to have some lean into the defender...

Completely balanced stance, under control through the first steps, and then a contact that can only be described as an explosion of force.

How do you teach your offensive linemen get off...

Preferably with a woman, but if they're into guys that's fine too.
 
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Everything contains at least zone elements, otherwise you'd have O-line chasing a falling DL in a zone blitz up into oblivion.

I only like using one or two plays that involve a true zone scheme at all. I still want my guys teeing off on every defender they cross, but it's not the primary goal.



I forbid head contact completely. If a kid does it, he gets reminded of this fact. If he does it again, he'll be reminded at a louder volume. If he does it once more, he gets to go through a blocking drill with no helmet on.

They get the picture pretty quickly.



Completely balanced stance, under control through the first steps, and then a contact that can only be described as an explosion of force.



Preferably with a woman, but if they're into guys that's fine too.
I understand zone elements but I am referring to outside zone offensive line technique as what I have been taught depending on what line you face (even or odd)(band depending on positioning of the said defensive linemen)usually everyone will take a stretch step and then about another 12 to 18 inch step toward the play side which isn't direct contact which is what you said you teach... So I didn't know if you do run a outside zone and taught it differently or you didn't like it and why you didn't like it....
 
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I understand zone elements but I am referring to outside zone offensive line technique as what I have been taught depending on what line you face (even or odd)(band depending on positioning of the said defensive linemen)usually everyone will take a stretch step and then about another 12 to 18 inch step toward the play side which isn't direct contact which is what you said you teach... So I didn't know if you do run a outside zone and taught it differently or you didn't like it and why you didn't like it....

I enjoyed that type of play from a defensive standpoint, mostly because it was pretty easy to defend.

Let's just say for a second that the DL is set up in a nice simple even front, 5-2-2-5 across. There is zero chance that the playside tackle is going to be able to reach the outside shoulder of my 5, because my 5 knows that he will be destroyed if it ever happens. Either he takes a nice long seat on the bench for getting reached, or he suffered a devastating knee injury which is the only way that the OT was able to get to the outside.

So there's a nice lane between the playside guard and tackle, right? Not a chance. The 2 has the same rule, which is to never get crossed, so he's fighting the guard all the way. The guy with the ball gets confused; he's supposed to have either a straight outside lane which is slammed shut, or a quick cutback which is now slammed shut...something has gone wrong.

This is about the time that the backside 2, who has read the play and has crossed the backside guard and the center, creates enough chaos for the MLB to destroy the ballcarrier for a two-yard loss. "Damn!", says the guy calling the plays for the offense. "They had that one keyed all the way. We'll come back to it though; they can't guess right all the time." Three plays later, they run it again and it only goes for -1 yard.

"Fine!", he thinks, "We can at least force them to switch to an odd front if we mix things up." So he goes, and eventually an odd front is thrown out there against a nice simple outside zone. We'll just go with a 4-0-4 for the purpose of this play.

The ball is snapped, and the center is immediately negated. Either he's rocked back by my 0, who's been drilled endlessly on how precisely to blow up the center at the snap, or he's simply sidestepped by my 0. (This stuff usually shows up on film for in-week adjustments, of course).

On the playside, the tackle is again trying in vain to reach the outside shoulder of my 4. But he doesn't get there at all; his steps are too large, and my 4 has simply knocked him further off-balance and has slashed into the backfield. Now the ballcarrier has no choice but to either slide or pray for mercy, possibly both.

Understand that with my DLs, I would emphasize repeatedly on a daily basis that defensive line play is not nice. We'd go through what certain types of blocks would look like from the vantage point of a DL so that recognition would become an instinct, and I'd simply hammer into them that it's not nice. If you're in a 2 and the guard across from you heads off into a down block, it may be easy to slip past that and into the backfield, but it's bad for the poor LB who's about to get whacked. The 2's job in that case is to blast the ever-living hell out of that guard, which will both carry the 2 into the backfield and let the LB roam free.

By the time it was Friday night, there was no "nice" left in them.

Understand too that when it comes to offense, I'd prefer to look at how an opponent's defenders actually played. If a DE would come too far upfield and shy away from contact, a couple of shovel passes right at him will make him absolutely hate life. If a DT was too passive, we'd hammer him into oblivion (getting 5-7 yards a pop) until he'd get aggressive, then we'd leave him unblocked on a midline option and go for 30 yards or more. Yeah, we'd target defenders. We'd go out of our way to do it, just pick some poor schlub and build a game plan around first making him a complete non-factor and then making him into an accomplice to his own team's ass-whipping.

This is what to keep in mind the next time someone says that an option-heavy offense (80% option, or more) is passive, that it's not aggressive and it's not mean. Brother, you put the right people in charge and you'll find yourself praying for an iso.
 
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I enjoyed that type of play from a defensive standpoint, mostly because it was pretty easy to defend.

Let's just say for a second that the DL is set up in a nice simple even front, 5-2-2-5 across. There is zero chance that the playside tackle is going to be able to reach the outside shoulder of my 5, because my 5 knows that he will be destroyed if it ever happens. Either he takes a nice long seat on the bench for getting reached, or he suffered a devastating knee injury which is the only way that the OT was able to get to the outside.

So there's a nice lane between the playside guard and tackle, right? Not a chance. The 2 has the same rule, which is to never get crossed, so he's fighting the guard all the way. The guy with the ball gets confused; he's supposed to have either a straight outside lane which is slammed shut, or a quick cutback which is now slammed shut...something has gone wrong.

This is about the time that the backside 2, who has read the play and has crossed the backside guard and the center, creates enough chaos for the MLB to destroy the ballcarrier for a two-yard loss. "Damn!", says the guy calling the plays for the offense. "They had that one keyed all the way. We'll come back to it though; they can't guess right all the time." Three plays later, they run it again and it only goes for -1 yard.

"Fine!", he thinks, "We can at least force them to switch to an odd front if we mix things up." So he goes, and eventually an odd front is thrown out there against a nice simple outside zone. We'll just go with a 4-0-4 for the purpose of this play.

The ball is snapped, and the center is immediately negated. Either he's rocked back by my 0, who's been drilled endlessly on how precisely to blow up the center at the snap, or he's simply sidestepped by my 0. (This stuff usually shows up on film for in-week adjustments, of course).

On the playside, the tackle is again trying in vain to reach the outside shoulder of my 4. But he doesn't get there at all; his steps are too large, and my 4 has simply knocked him further off-balance and has slashed into the backfield. Now the ballcarrier has no choice but to either slide or pray for mercy, possibly both.

Understand that with my DLs, I would emphasize repeatedly on a daily basis that defensive line play is not nice. We'd go through what certain types of blocks would look like from the vantage point of a DL so that recognition would become an instinct, and I'd simply hammer into them that it's not nice. If you're in a 2 and the guard across from you heads off into a down block, it may be easy to slip past that and into the backfield, but it's bad for the poor LB who's about to get whacked. The 2's job in that case is to blast the ever-living hell out of that guard, which will both carry the 2 into the backfield and let the LB roam free.

By the time it was Friday night, there was no "nice" left in them.

Understand too that when it comes to offense, I'd prefer to look at how an opponent's defenders actually played. If a DE would come too far upfield and shy away from contact, a couple of shovel passes right at him will make him absolutely hate life. If a DT was too passive, we'd hammer him into oblivion (getting 5-7 yards a pop) until he'd get aggressive, then we'd leave him unblocked on a midline option and go for 30 yards or more. Yeah, we'd target defenders. We'd go out of our way to do it, just pick some poor schlub and build a game plan around first making him a complete non-factor and then making him into an accomplice to his own team's ass-whipping.

This is what to keep in mind the next time someone says that an option-heavy offense (80% option, or more) is passive, that it's not aggressive and it's not mean. Brother, you put the right people in charge and you'll find yourself praying for an iso.
What is your technique with your 3 tech and 1/2 tech.... And your 4 tech actually just give me all of it lol.... So does anyone try to jet sweep you or get some slip screen out with the tackle TE and slot/Sniffer... Also what do you do about sniffers say if they were in a Ace split back ie.

X...................T G C G T Y................
. -------------U. Z
Q T
And the question I really want to know is if you had to play your team how would you attack them... Would you play on their aggression or run straight at them get low and drive, best on best...

And just because did you see the Clemson play where I believe they were in the same alignment as the above one and shoveled it to their sniffers with a split zone scheme...?
 
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What is your technique with your 3 tech and 1/2 tech.... And your 4 tech actually just give me all of it lol....

We'd do drills that would involve both sides of the ball. Ultimately, DLs need a fundamental understanding of what OLs are trying to do on any given play, and any given blocking scheme is simply a combination of only four or five different types of blocks that are used interchangeably. (Short pull, long pull, base, double-team in a gap, hook/reach, down block, pass block).

Individual time was a lot of read and react, with in-week adjustments. But by and large, I'd let the talent be the talent while helping to eliminate bad habits. In pass rushing, I'd never let my DLs leave their feet to try to swat a ball down. I outlawed the swim technique for us completely. Outside of that, if someone had better balance fighting a reach block by crossing his feet - which one guy did - I'd let him do it.

So does anyone try to jet sweep you or get some slip screen out with the tackle TE and slot/Sniffer... Also what do you do about sniffers say if they were in a Ace split back ie.

X...................T G C G T Y................
. -------------U. Z
Q T

There used to be an opponent that had about five different types of jet sweep, but they'd run it out of 25-30 different formations. I recall scouting them with the three tapes, and the board being filled with different formations while the actual play diagrams went onto paper that we had sitting around.

The beauty of jet sweeps from an offensive standpoint is that there's a huge speed mismatch between a receiver or slotback carrying the ball and the defenders on the perimeter. The beauty for the defense is that most of these guys lack RB instincts; they're used to being in space and being able to have the time to make a quick cut and maybe get an extra yard or two without getting buried from behind. And since it just involved a bunch of reach blocks, my guys would fight those, the guy with the ball would slow down or stop to look for a seam, and get nothing out of it.

When we played them, I think they ran a jet sweep 25 times and only got positive yardage once or twice. One of those involved one of the most flagrant holds I've ever seen on our DE, which is the only way their ballcarrier was able to turn the corner.

And the question I really want to know is if you had to play your team how would you attack them... Would you play on their aggression or run straight at them get low and drive, best on best...

Prayer would work.:p

Any given team is going to have a different mentality for how to combat their opponents as a whole. If a defense wants to be aggressive, we'll find a way to make them pay for it. If they want to read and react to everything, we'll confound them. If they want to sit back and force us to make decisions (like in the option), we'll just pick up chunks of yards and force them out of it.

Same thing with an offense. If they want to see our defensive alignment and check off into things, we'll go right along with them. If they want to just be aggressive, we'll negate them.

But there are a ton of ways to do this.

And just because did you see the Clemson play where I believe they were in the same alignment as the above one and shoveled it to their sniffers with a split zone scheme...?

I'd have to see a clip of it, to be honest.
 
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We'd do drills that would involve both sides of the ball. Ultimately, DLs need a fundamental understanding of what OLs are trying to do on any given play, and any given blocking scheme is simply a combination of only four or five different types of blocks that are used interchangeably. (Short pull, long pull, base, double-team in a gap, hook/reach, down block, pass block).

Individual time was a lot of read and react, with in-week adjustments. But by and large, I'd let the talent be the talent while helping to eliminate bad habits. In pass rushing, I'd never let my DLs leave their feet to try to swat a ball down. I outlawed the swim technique for us completely. Outside of that, if someone had better balance fighting a reach block by crossing his feet - which one guy did - I'd let him do it.



There used to be an opponent that had about five different types of jet sweep, but they'd run it out of 25-30 different formations. I recall scouting them with the three tapes, and the board being filled with different formations while the actual play diagrams went onto paper that we had sitting around.

The beauty of jet sweeps from an offensive standpoint is that there's a huge speed mismatch between a receiver or slotback carrying the ball and the defenders on the perimeter. The beauty for the defense is that most of these guys lack RB instincts; they're used to being in space and being able to have the time to make a quick cut and maybe get an extra yard or two without getting buried from behind. And since it just involved a bunch of reach blocks, my guys would fight those, the guy with the ball would slow down or stop to look for a seam, and get nothing out of it.

When we played them, I think they ran a jet sweep 25 times and only got positive yardage once or twice. One of those involved one of the most flagrant holds I've ever seen on our DE, which is the only way their ballcarrier was able to turn the corner.



Prayer would work.:p

Any given team is going to have a different mentality for how to combat their opponents as a whole. If a defense wants to be aggressive, we'll find a way to make them pay for it. If they want to read and react to everything, we'll confound them. If they want to sit back and force us to make decisions (like in the option), we'll just pick up chunks of yards and force them out of it.

Same thing with an offense. If they want to see our defensive alignment and check off into things, we'll go right along with them. If they want to just be aggressive, we'll negate them.

But there are a ton of ways to do this.



I'd have to see a clip of it, to be honest.
I am a secondary guy and have been trying to understand the defensive line as a whole... So within those blocks could help me understand what each block is trying to do and how to negate their advances on your d-line...? I know it's a lot of typing but if you don't have the time could you just give me the short version... Thanks.
 
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I am a secondary guy and have been trying to understand the defensive line as a whole... So within those blocks could help me understand what each block is trying to do and how to negate their advances on your d-line...? I know it's a lot of typing but if you don't have the time could you just give me the short version... Thanks.

Quick version:

A pull, whether short or long, usually means that an offense is targeting a specific area to create a specific hole/seam for the ballcarrier to go through. Let's use a basic fullback trap to the right as an example, against an even front; in this we'll make it a 5-2-2-5, with regular 4-3 defensive alignment.

From the perspective of the offense, the goal is to get the fullback upfield and into a matchup where the first defender he was to worry about is a safety. So, in order from left to right:
- Left tackle ignores the 5 who's just outside of him. The 5 is too far outside to be able to do anything in the backfield, so he can be completely ignored. The LT heads inside and upfield; he can pick up an astute backside OLB if he's there, but more realistically a safety is a target. (In our option offense against a 4-4 type of front, I'd actually have the backside tackle cut the 2 who was inside of him. This would free up our center, but create a huge gamble if the backside tackle missed the cut.)
- Left guard is going to pull down the line and hammer the playside 2. The thinking is that the playside 2 will come upfield, thinking that he has a clear path to the mesh point; that's when the pulling guard hammers him.
- Center will usually down block to the backside 2, preventing him from either ripping into the backfield directly or else latching onto the pulling guard. (Yes, I taught DLs how to hold a pulling guard.)
- Playside guard will make a play toward the MLB. If the playside 2 is extremely disciplined and physical, which means he'll simply squeeze this down block and destroy the play, then we might go at him with an I-block. All that means is that the the playside guard steps backward as if in pass protection, which will bring the playside 2 upfield and allow the trap block to work. My preferred i-block was a drop-step, followed by an outside loop and a trail to the MLB. This has to be done extremely quickly.
- Playside tackle can usually take an inside loop and negate the playside OLB. The 5 who's outside of him is in no position to disrupt the play, so there's no sense in worrying about it.

So on one basic play, the three interior OLs use two down blocks and a short pull. The loop type blocks are more common in an option offense where a defender is meant to be unblocked completely.

Now, look at it from the defensive side of things. The ball is snapped, and:
- The backside 5 squeezes down the line anyway despite the fact that he's unblocked and out of the play. You never know when a guy might try to cut back, or there could be a fumble. Regardless, keep outside contain while squeezing down.
- The playside 5 does the same thing.
- The backside 2 sees the man in front of him (backside guard) vacate and pull; he needs to communicate quickly that there's a pull. While he's doing this, he either grabs onto the pulling guard (which can be flagged if an official sees it) to slow him down, or he can simply follow the pulling guard down the line. But he needs to be wary since that center is on a trail for him at high speed, so he should already have a hand out to fend off the down block.
- The playside 2 should hear the pull call from the backside 2, see the down block in front of him and squeeze it hard, and come flat down the line while looking somewhere ahead of the mesh point.

This is the key part on a fullback trap: the trap block itself. The whole thing is predicated on the playside 2 coming upfield, and the pulling guard's aiming point is the inside shoulder of the playside 2. This isn't a hook-and-seal type of thing; his job is to blast a hole wide open for the fullback to go through.

If he can't do that, the play falls apart. This can be done if the playside 2 slides down the line and slips underneath the pull, or if the backside 2 is able to slip past the center's down block and follow the pulling guard right into the mesh point.

This brief video shows a couple of ways that a playside DT can slip past and create havoc. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I2DvJBHgrGo

Of course, there's no law that says that you can only trap a 2. We used to face 5-3-1-5 fronts, and common sense dictated that we'd trap the 3. Nah...we'd check away from that side and trap the 1 instead, which is extremely intricately timed and is either going to make the 1 regret life or make us regret calling it. Sometimes we'd trap a 3. Sometimes we'd trap nothing (against something like a 4-0-4 front) and have the guard peel upfield, just for a change of pace.
 
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Quick version:

A pull, whether short or long, usually means that an offense is targeting a specific area to create a specific hole/seam for the ballcarrier to go through. Let's use a basic fullback trap to the right as an example, against an even front; in this we'll make it a 5-2-2-5, with regular 4-3 defensive alignment.

From the perspective of the offense, the goal is to get the fullback upfield and into a matchup where the first defender he was to worry about is a safety. So, in order from left to right:
- Left tackle ignores the 5 who's just outside of him. The 5 is too far outside to be able to do anything in the backfield, so he can be completely ignored. The LT heads inside and upfield; he can pick up an astute backside OLB if he's there, but more realistically a safety is a target. (In our option offense against a 4-4 type of front, I'd actually have the backside tackle cut the 2 who was inside of him. This would free up our center, but create a huge gamble if the backside tackle missed the cut.)
- Left guard is going to pull down the line and hammer the playside 2. The thinking is that the playside 2 will come upfield, thinking that he has a clear path to the mesh point; that's when the pulling guard hammers him.
- Center will usually down block to the backside 2, preventing him from either ripping into the backfield directly or else latching onto the pulling guard. (Yes, I taught DLs how to hold a pulling guard.)
- Playside guard will make a play toward the MLB. If the playside 2 is extremely disciplined and physical, which means he'll simply squeeze this down block and destroy the play, then we might go at him with an I-block. All that means is that the the playside guard steps backward as if in pass protection, which will bring the playside 2 upfield and allow the trap block to work. My preferred i-block was a drop-step, followed by an outside loop and a trail to the MLB. This has to be done extremely quickly.
- Playside tackle can usually take an inside loop and negate the playside OLB. The 5 who's outside of him is in no position to disrupt the play, so there's no sense in worrying about it.

So on one basic play, the three interior OLs use two down blocks and a short pull. The loop type blocks are more common in an option offense where a defender is meant to be unblocked completely.

Now, look at it from the defensive side of things. The ball is snapped, and:
- The backside 5 squeezes down the line anyway despite the fact that he's unblocked and out of the play. You never know when a guy might try to cut back, or there could be a fumble. Regardless, keep outside contain while squeezing down.
- The playside 5 does the same thing.
- The backside 2 sees the man in front of him (backside guard) vacate and pull; he needs to communicate quickly that there's a pull. While he's doing this, he either grabs onto the pulling guard (which can be flagged if an official sees it) to slow him down, or he can simply follow the pulling guard down the line. But he needs to be wary since that center is on a trail for him at high speed, so he should already have a hand out to fend off the down block.
- The playside 2 should hear the pull call from the backside 2, see the down block in front of him and squeeze it hard, and come flat down the line while looking somewhere ahead of the mesh point.

This is the key part on a fullback trap: the trap block itself. The whole thing is predicated on the playside 2 coming upfield, and the pulling guard's aiming point is the inside shoulder of the playside 2. This isn't a hook-and-seal type of thing; his job is to blast a hole wide open for the fullback to go through.

If he can't do that, the play falls apart. This can be done if the playside 2 slides down the line and slips underneath the pull, or if the backside 2 is able to slip past the center's down block and follow the pulling guard right into the mesh point.

This brief video shows a couple of ways that a playside DT can slip past and create havoc. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I2DvJBHgrGo

Of course, there's no law that says that you can only trap a 2. We used to face 5-3-1-5 fronts, and common sense dictated that we'd trap the 3. Nah...we'd check away from that side and trap the 1 instead, which is extremely intricately timed and is either going to make the 1 regret life or make us regret calling it. Sometimes we'd trap a 3. Sometimes we'd trap nothing (against something like a 4-0-4 front) and have the guard peel upfield, just for a change of pace.
So what about reach blocks what is the purpose and what do you teach your d line to do to combat it?
 
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#95
So what about reach blocks what is the purpose and what do you teach your d line to do to combat it?

Generally defined, a reach block is one in which an OL goes playside and blocks the outside shoulder of a DL. Specifically for the playside tackle, this creates an outside seam by sealing off the DL on the perimeter. In theory, the ballcarrier can now simply get to the edge and turn upfield.

To successfully reach block, the OL needs to get outside of the DL's outside shoulder. So in order to negate a reach block, a DL needs to simply prevent the OL from getting to that outside shoulder.

Against an undisciplined OL, which usually involved a staggered stance and big steps well outside of the frame, this can be pretty easy: the DL can see that it's coming and can usually slide right past the OL's outside shoulder and into the backfield. And barring that, the OL will usually reach out and pull the DL down, which gets flagged frequently on the perimeter. Barring that, a straight bull-rush to the OL's outside shoulder will knock him off balance and allow the DL the upper hand.

For the most part, OLs are more disciplined than this. And in those cases, it comes down to simply fighting the OL all the way down the line. He's taught not to give up on trying to reach, and my DLs are taught not to get ever reached. So it's two guys that have latched onto each other and quite literally fight the whole way down the line, refusing to relent. This did lead to a great situation one time, where our left end and their right tackle ended up almost burying me into the bench...and the play started at the far hashmark. In other words, they fought each other for about 35-40 yards, neither one giving an inch.
 
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#96
Generally defined, a reach block is one in which an OL goes playside and blocks the outside shoulder of a DL. Specifically for the playside tackle, this creates an outside seam by sealing off the DL on the perimeter. In theory, the ballcarrier can now simply get to the edge and turn upfield.

To successfully reach block, the OL needs to get outside of the DL's outside shoulder. So in order to negate a reach block, a DL needs to simply prevent the OL from getting to that outside shoulder.

Against an undisciplined OL, which usually involved a staggered stance and big steps well outside of the frame, this can be pretty easy: the DL can see that it's coming and can usually slide right past the OL's outside shoulder and into the backfield. And barring that, the OL will usually reach out and pull the DL down, which gets flagged frequently on the perimeter. Barring that, a straight bull-rush to the OL's outside shoulder will knock him off balance and allow the DL the upper hand.

For the most part, OLs are more disciplined than this. And in those cases, it comes down to simply fighting the OL all the way down the line. He's taught not to give up on trying to reach, and my DLs are taught not to get ever reached. So it's two guys that have latched onto each other and quite literally fight the whole way down the line, refusing to relent. This did lead to a great situation one time, where our left end and their right tackle ended up almost burying me into the bench...and the play started at the far hashmark. In other words, they fought each other for about 35-40 yards, neither one giving an inch.
Ok thanks what about a trap block what does te d line need to see and do in that situation?
 
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