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[hUTch2002]

Not Covid but Guangdong Province in China is implementing strict COVID-like measures. This is due to a mosquito virus. Almost to the point of locking down.

I can’t get past the name of the province. I assume we’re pronouncing this like wang dong. Either that or wong dong. I giggle either way.

 

[FLVOL_79]

I just happened across this post. I’m glad we didn’t have you in charge!

I thought China was going to go scorch earth. Instead they tucked tail. Terrible prediction on my part.

 

[marcusluvsvols]

Hey @kiddiedoc what do you think about the RFK/Trump etc claims of about Tylenol ingestion by pregnant moms being a contributing factor to autism? I honestly thought about starting a thread for this, because if it turns out to be true it will be a HUGE deal right? Having had a couple kids I know that acetaminophen is one of very few meds actually prescribed to pregnant women for pain as well as one of the very few used on infants and toddlers for fevers, pain etc. It seems from my limited knowledge that more studies need to be done both before and after birth to see if there is in fact a correlation or causation effect here. It seems at least logically plausible but I have roughly zero trust in any government at this point Not trying to put you on the spot or asking you to make a definite statement based on limited info...just wondering what you think because I value your opinion and know you to be honest. Will this change the way you advise Tylenol for infants/toddlers or their moms planning to have another child soon as many women do?

 

[kiddiedoc]

Hey @kiddiedoc what do you think about the RFK/Trump etc claims of about Tylenol ingestion by pregnant moms being a contributing factor to autism? I honestly thought about starting a thread for this, because if it turns out to be true it will be a HUGE deal right? Having had a couple kids I know that acetaminophen is one of very few meds actually prescribed to pregnant women for pain as well as one of the very few used on infants and toddlers for fevers, pain etc. It seems from my limited knowledge that more studies need to be done both before and after birth to see if there is in fact a correlation or causation effect here. It seems at least logically plausible but I have roughly zero trust in any government at this point Not trying to put you on the spot or asking you to make a definite statement based on limited info...just wondering what you think because I value your opinion and know you to be honest. Will this change the way you advise Tylenol for infants/toddlers or their moms planning to have another child soon as many women do?

Hey buddy. There have been several reports in peer-reviewed literature over the years investigating a link between acetaminophen and autism. A few have concluded that there  could be a link, but the statistics aren't convincing, and there are so many confounding variables. It is DEFINITELY NOT conclusive that acetaminophen poses any risk, but I do believe that continued research is warranted.

My advice to pregnant mothers (and to my patients) is to only take medication when you need it, low grade fevers are not harmful, and there are more natural and alternative ways to deal with discomfort, when appropriate.

Honestly, we aren't going to find "the" cause of autism. It's most certainly some combination of more systematic screening, genetics, environmental factors (food sources, toxins, radiation, etc.), early exposure to things like tv/games/media, and possibly gestational exposures.

My $0.02

 

[marcusluvsvols]

Hey buddy. There have been several reports in peer-reviewed literature over the years investigating a link between acetaminophen and autism. A few have concluded that there  could be a link, but the statistics aren't convincing, and there are so many confounding variables. It is DEFINITELY NOT conclusive that acetaminophen poses any risk, but I do believe that continued research is warranted.

My advice to pregnant mothers (and to my patients) is to only take medication when you need it, low grade fevers are not harmful, and there are more natural and alternative ways to deal with discomfort, when appropriate.

Honestly, we aren't going to find "the" cause of autism. It's most certainly some combination of more systematic screening, genetics, environmental factors (food sources, toxins, radiation, etc.), early exposure to things like tv/games/media, and possibly gestational exposures.

My $0.02

Thanks bud. Sorry if I am being dense...but what do you mean by systematic screening? Like scans, Xrays, ultrasound etc when the baby is developing perhaps causing a problem? I think environmental factors can definitely be one of the causes such as the "forever chemicals" and a slew of other pollutants in our air/food/water etc that we likely haven't even considered. Good point about it likely being a combination of factors too...although there are some things that seem to have objectively harmed children's (all US citizens thereby) brains such as leaded gasoline and lead paint which from what I read have really been detrimental for people born in the 60s and 70s. The term autism now describes such a variety/spectrum (luther ruined that word) that theres not ever gonna be a "smoking gun" type culprit for all those mental issues right? Anyway, thanks for the quick reply bud. Always appreciate your insight.

 

[KB5252]

Hey buddy. There have been several reports in peer-reviewed literature over the years investigating a link between acetaminophen and autism. A few have concluded that there  could be a link, but the statistics aren't convincing, and there are so many confounding variables. It is DEFINITELY NOT conclusive that acetaminophen poses any risk, but I do believe that continued research is warranted.

My advice to pregnant mothers (and to my patients) is to only take medication when you need it, low grade fevers are not harmful, and there are more natural and alternative ways to deal with discomfort, when appropriate.

Honestly, we aren't going to find "the" cause of autism. It's most certainly some combination of more systematic screening, genetics, environmental factors (food sources, toxins, radiation, etc.), early exposure to things like tv/games/media, and possibly gestational exposures.

My $0.02

I'm not a doctor but I'll add to this as someone who's studied the animals he cares for. Any completely natural (non synthetic) compounds you can use in place of "created/engineered" the better.

I'm not saying forgo medication. I'm saying if there are things you can do to naturally reduce fever, reduce inflammation, discomfort use those. In cases where intervention is needed consult with your doctor to find the best treatment for you.

If over overstepped my bounds doc I'll take my lumps. I've studied medicine for my animals, my vet tells me I'm an expert in small ruminants, self taught. When I have an issue I tell him the symptoms, what I've fine thus far and what I think. Hell give me whatever needs I ask for unless he disagrees and things I should take an alternative route, that's only happened once.

 

[kiddiedoc]

Thanks bud. Sorry if I am being dense...but what do you mean by systematic screening?

All children are (should be) screened with developmental surveys at well checks starting at 1 month. We do specific autism symptom surveys at 18 and 24 months. There are standardized screens and diagnostic criteria.

To my knowledge, most of this was not available as recently as 25 years ago. A lot of kids were just labeled as "socially delayed," "slow," having communication/language delays, or awkward prior to that.

There are no standard tests using imaging or labwork for autism.

 

[Vol423]

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[Vol737]

Hey buddy. There have been several reports in peer-reviewed literature over the years investigating a link between acetaminophen and autism. A few have concluded that there  could be a link, but the statistics aren't convincing, and there are so many confounding variables. It is DEFINITELY NOT conclusive that acetaminophen poses any risk, but I do believe that continued research is warranted.

My advice to pregnant mothers (and to my patients) is to only take medication when you need it, low grade fevers are not harmful, and there are more natural and alternative ways to deal with discomfort, when appropriate.

Honestly, we aren't going to find "the" cause of autism. It's most certainly some combination of more systematic screening, genetics, environmental factors (food sources, toxins, radiation, etc.), early exposure to things like tv/games/media, and possibly gestational exposures.

My $0.02

Just read this…disregard my tag on you in the other thread where I posted.