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World Health Organization Faces Calls for Leader to Resign over Coronavirus Failure

Criticism of the World Health Organization (WHO) for allowing the Chinese Communist Party to influence its behavior during the Wuhan virus epidemic is intensifying, coupled with calls for Director-General Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus to resign.

A petition calling for Tedros’ resignation and Taiwan’s full membership in WHO reached 500,000 signatures on Thursday, as reported by Taiwan News:
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The petition can be viewed and signed at Change.org, which reported 549,813 signatures as of Thursday morning.

Criticism of WHO leadership at Taiwan News stretches back to February when an op-ed wondered why the organization was taking so long to declare a pandemic and quoted some astonishingly obsequious remarks about China from top officials:
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Taiwan News cited the danger of the CCP using WHO as a mouthpiece to undermine travel bans, one of the few effective measures available to other nations as they struggled to slow the spread of the coronavirus:
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Taiwanese health officials restated on Wednesday that they warned WHO about human transmission of the coronavirus while the Chinese Communists were still denying such infections were possible.

Taiwanese officials said WHO’s International Health Regulations unit did not post any of the information they forwarded. They criticized WHO for relaying false information from the CCP even though international observers were not allowed to obtain first-hand information about the epidemic in Wuhan.

Taiwan went on to devise and implement the world’s most effective strategy for controlling the outbreak, but WHO keeps lavishing praise on Beijing. Former NATO Secretary-General Anders Fogh Rasmussen said last week that lives around the world could have been saved if the global health community had paid closer attention to Taiwan’s warnings and advice.

WHO Faces Calls for Leader to Resign over Coronavirus Failure
 
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05_never_again said:
It's a consequence of the financial crisis.

The consensus on bailouts has, over time, moved from "government shouldn't bail out private companies" to "government should only bail out companies in industries that are structurally important to the economy."

The next logical move is "government should bail out any company in crisis situations not of their own making," and I'm sure it'll eventually move to a setup where the government perpetually offers assistance to any company who asks for it, in good times and bad.

Banks got bailed out, the automakers got bailed out, now airlines are getting bailed out. Of course the cruise lines are going to get something.
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The government doesn't need to bail out businesses for something like this, they need to make insurance available to them that would cover their losses for things like a natural disaster like hurricanes, tonadoes and pandemics. Let business pay for it through premiums and if they don't want it then they can spend their own money when something bad happens.
 
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Canada Gave Away Medical Equipment to China Before Facing Shortages

Critics of Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau’s response to the Wuhan virus charge that one reason Canada finds itself short of vital medical supplies may be that Trudeau shipped a great deal of it to China in the last days before the Communist Party’s secrecy and duplicity unleashed the pandemic upon the world.

Ezra Levant of Rebel News laid the charge on Monday, citing contemporaneous documents to show the Trudeau administration was quite proud of shipping Canada’s supplies to China.

Why has Canada already run out of basic medical equipment, like face masks? Because Trudeau sent it all to China as “foreign aid” just a few weeks ago. Here’s his press release bragging about it: https://canada.ca/en/global-affairs/news/2020/02/canada-supports-chinas-ongoing-response-to-novel-coronavirus-outbreak.html…​



The announcement Levant cited came from the Canadian government’s Global Affairs Canada office on February 9, stating Canada was donating 16 tons of medical equipment to the Chinese Communist Party.​


“Canada is saddened by the impact of the novel coronavirus outbreak, especially the loss of life, on the Chinese population. Personal protective equipment is essential to prevent and limit the spread of the virus,” Minister of International Development Karina Gould was quoted as saying.​


Levant expanded on the point in a video that also recalled how President Donald Trump was attacked by leading Democrat presidential primary candidate Joe Biden for imposing travel restrictions that clearly helped to slow the advance of the coronavirus into America.​


“What did Trudeau do around the same time?” Levant asked. “Well, he did nothing. In fact, it would be well over a month later before Trudeau restricted flights from China at all. More than a full month later!”​
“And as you know, Trudeau still allows daily flights from Shanghai, Beijing, Xiaomin, Guangzhou, and other cities in China to Canada every day. Several a day. And none of them are medically screened – as in, no one has their temperature taken, no one is quarantined, to this day,” he added.

“Trudeau gathered up all of the medical equipment in his reach – 16 tons of it, facemasks, gloves, and other protective gear… and instead of ordering more at maximum production speed, instead of starting to stockpile it and distribute it in Canada, he took our stockpile and sent it to China,” he said, reading from the same February 9 press release he included with his tweet.

Levant noted this was an exceptionally bitter pill to swallow because China’s economy is much larger than Canada’s, with far greater manufacturing capacity to make medical equipment and more money to purchase what they cannot make.

“We sent them charity. Why? Are they poor over there? We sent them foreign aid while they actually still have our two Canadian hostages, Michael Spavor and Michael Kovrig. We did that in mid-February. Trump was already banning Chinese flights. Trudeau was sending China our emergency supplies for free,” he said.

Canada Gave Away Medical Equipment to China Before Facing Shortages
 
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VolStrom said:
The government doesn't need to bail out businesses for something like this, they need to make insurance available to them that would cover their losses for things like a natural disaster like hurricanes, tonadoes and pandemics. Let business pay for it through premiums and if they don't want it then they can spend their own money when something bad happens.
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Can't they go to private insurance companies to provide such a service?
 
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Franklin Pierce said:
Canada Gave Away Medical Equipment to China Before Facing Shortages

Critics of Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau’s response to the Wuhan virus charge that one reason Canada finds itself short of vital medical supplies may be that Trudeau shipped a great deal of it to China in the last days before the Communist Party’s secrecy and duplicity unleashed the pandemic upon the world.

Ezra Levant of Rebel News laid the charge on Monday, citing contemporaneous documents to show the Trudeau administration was quite proud of shipping Canada’s supplies to China.
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Why has Canada already run out of basic medical equipment, like face masks? Because Trudeau sent it all to China as “foreign aid” just a few weeks ago. Here’s his press release bragging about it: https://canada.ca/en/global-affairs/news/2020/02/canada-supports-chinas-ongoing-response-to-novel-coronavirus-outbreak.html…​



The announcement Levant cited came from the Canadian government’s Global Affairs Canada office on February 9, stating Canada was donating 16 tons of medical equipment to the Chinese Communist Party.​

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“Canada is saddened by the impact of the novel coronavirus outbreak, especially the loss of life, on the Chinese population. Personal protective equipment is essential to prevent and limit the spread of the virus,” Minister of International Development Karina Gould was quoted as saying.​


Levant expanded on the point in a video that also recalled how President Donald Trump was attacked by leading Democrat presidential primary candidate Joe Biden for imposing travel restrictions that clearly helped to slow the advance of the coronavirus into America.​

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“What did Trudeau do around the same time?” Levant asked. “Well, he did nothing. In fact, it would be well over a month later before Trudeau restricted flights from China at all. More than a full month later!”​
“And as you know, Trudeau still allows daily flights from Shanghai, Beijing, Xiaomin, Guangzhou, and other cities in China to Canada every day. Several a day. And none of them are medically screened – as in, no one has their temperature taken, no one is quarantined, to this day,” he added.

“Trudeau gathered up all of the medical equipment in his reach – 16 tons of it, facemasks, gloves, and other protective gear… and instead of ordering more at maximum production speed, instead of starting to stockpile it and distribute it in Canada, he took our stockpile and sent it to China,” he said, reading from the same February 9 press release he included with his tweet.

Levant noted this was an exceptionally bitter pill to swallow because China’s economy is much larger than Canada’s, with far greater manufacturing capacity to make medical equipment and more money to purchase what they cannot make.

“We sent them charity. Why? Are they poor over there? We sent them foreign aid while they actually still have our two Canadian hostages, Michael Spavor and Michael Kovrig. We did that in mid-February. Trump was already banning Chinese flights. Trudeau was sending China our emergency supplies for free,” he said.

Canada Gave Away Medical Equipment to China Before Facing Shortages
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I haven't read this on CNN or MSNBC so it's not true.
 
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Franklin Pierce said:
World Health Organization Faces Calls for Leader to Resign over Coronavirus Failure

Criticism of the World Health Organization (WHO) for allowing the Chinese Communist Party to influence its behavior during the Wuhan virus epidemic is intensifying, coupled with calls for Director-General Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus to resign.

A petition calling for Tedros’ resignation and Taiwan’s full membership in WHO reached 500,000 signatures on Thursday, as reported by Taiwan News:
​
The petition can be viewed and signed at Change.org, which reported 549,813 signatures as of Thursday morning.

Criticism of WHO leadership at Taiwan News stretches back to February when an op-ed wondered why the organization was taking so long to declare a pandemic and quoted some astonishingly obsequious remarks about China from top officials:
​
Taiwan News cited the danger of the CCP using WHO as a mouthpiece to undermine travel bans, one of the few effective measures available to other nations as they struggled to slow the spread of the coronavirus:
​
Taiwanese health officials restated on Wednesday that they warned WHO about human transmission of the coronavirus while the Chinese Communists were still denying such infections were possible.

Taiwanese officials said WHO’s International Health Regulations unit did not post any of the information they forwarded. They criticized WHO for relaying false information from the CCP even though international observers were not allowed to obtain first-hand information about the epidemic in Wuhan.

Taiwan went on to devise and implement the world’s most effective strategy for controlling the outbreak, but WHO keeps lavishing praise on Beijing. Former NATO Secretary-General Anders Fogh Rasmussen said last week that lives around the world could have been saved if the global health community had paid closer attention to Taiwan’s warnings and advice.

WHO Faces Calls for Leader to Resign over Coronavirus Failure
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So if the WHO leadership should resign, what do we do with the leadership here in the US? Firing squad?
 
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China Pushes ‘Health Silk Road’ to Take over Global Health Care

Chinese state media on Wednesday pushed the notion of a “Health Silk Road,” modeled after the New Silk Road infrastructure program, which later came to be known as the Belt and Road Initiative (BRI).

In other words, having infected the entire planet with the Wuhan coronavirus, the Chinese Communist Party (CCP) wants to use the ensuing global health crisis as an opportunity to take over the health care systems of other nations, beginning with hard-hit Italy.

An article at the CCP’s People’s Daily touted China’s desire to “protect the lives of all mankind.”

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According to the People’s Daily, in a phone call to Italian Prime Minister Guiseppe Conte last week, Chinese dictator Xi Jinping supposedly made remarks that ”injected confidence in the global fight against the novel coronavirus epidemic.”

The article noted that Italy is Europe’s only participant in the Belt and Road Initiative to date, making it a perfect place to launch the Health Silk Road after that pesky Wuhan virus is dealt with:
 
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My brother works for large, home improvement chain. He was given a document declaring him an "essential employee" and told to keep it in his vehicle. Just in case National Guard stops him going to or from his job. Is the company being proactive or panicking? Is martial law really next? Seems this company thinks it's likely.
 
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05_never_again said:
Can't they go to private insurance companies to provide such a service?
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Business interruption coverage doesn't apply to pandemics, it's designed to cover a loss of income when there's direct physical loss to the building. So if a fire burns down the building or the roof is peeled off, it reimburses for the lost income during the period of restoration. in many cases, its rated at or near the same rate as the building/property coverage due to the fact that direct loss to the building is what triggers the coverage. The deductibles however for business interruption are time based, usually 72 hours.
 
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Juanita said:
My brother works for large, home improvement chain. He was given a document declaring him an "essential employee" and told to keep it in his vehicle. Just in case National Guard stops him going to or from his job. Is the company being proactive or panicking? Is martial law really next? Seems this company thinks it's likely.
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Our HR department sent the same document out to all of our restaurant operators and the very few team members we still have working for us. They didn’t mention national guard. It referenced local police.
 
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Juanita said:
My brother works for large, home improvement chain. He was given a document declaring him an "essential employee" and told to keep it in his vehicle. Just in case National Guard stops him going to or from his job. Is the company being proactive or panicking? Is martial law really next? Seems this company thinks it's likely.
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I could see some local attempts but nothing on the fed level...We drove to the next city to pick up our Ruby Tuesday order last night because ours decided to close permanently...felt like we were breaking the law out after 8pm and hardly any traffic lol
 
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volfanhill said:
Our HR department sent the same document out to all of our restaurant operators and the very few team members we still have working for us. They didn’t mention national guard. It referenced local police.
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If we have to prove to local police or national guard that would be a damn shame and further proof we have lost the country
 
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The ChiCom Propaganda Offensive Is Real and Ongoing, and the Democrat-Media Complex Are Complicit

First, the Chinese Communist Party covered up the virus, then they prevaricated with the help of the World Heath Organization, then they shifted into propaganda mode to try to deflect the truth about the origins of the Chinese plague and their cover-up and lack of cooperation with public health authorities around the world.

That is the authoritarian Chinese Communist Party in action. Let’s take a glimpse at how their massive propaganda onslaught is taking shape through a sampling of semi-official Chinese media.

First, the ChiComs are cleaning house by controlling potential leakers to Westerners in China, kicking out Western journalists in order to tightly control the information about what the ChiComs claim is happening in China, and then ramping up the propaganda campaign to shift blame for the virus elsewhere. This first excerpt is from Reporters Without Borders, an international organization that supports and monitors free press activities around the world:
 
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508mikey said:
just asking you, since you are a nurse and you wont be sarcastic like alot of these posters -- should cigarettes and vaping be banned ?
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Many companies are requiring that you be nicotine free for employment. I took tests when I hired in.
Smoking alone has a high cost on healthcare. I would have to put it in with diabetes, obesity, heart disease, end stage renal failure. These are our patients who return again and again.


Few examples of the point I'll make.
In open heart I was amazed at the amount of 30 to 40 year old men who had completely destroyed their hearts with cocaine.

Caring for a 600 lb woman who also destroyed her heart by being morbidly obese and on a ventilator. Family insisting I feed her, I even caught them putting food in her mouth. I used non therapeutic communication with that family. Half of them got kicked out.

Man on a ventilator. Family doesn't understand how 40 years of smoking dope would trash his lungs because he didn't smoke cigarettes.

30 year old woman on a vent, the only thing that will save her is a heart transplant. Family member asks if a family member can donate a heart 👀. I pointed out I thought everyone standing there at the family conference was using theirs.

The common denominator in all these is lack of education and common sense.
You can't legislate common sense even though our .gov tries to everyday. Education, I can only start educating patients and family once I get them. I'm pretty straight forward. Continue what you are doing and you will die. My education is directed at their ability to understand. At times I have to start with the basics with some families. I pull up a chair and hammer it out. Even then some just don't care, they will go back out and repeat what ended them there in the first place and their families will enable them.
You can try to legislate everything, it doesn't mean it will stop. With tobacco lobbyists in dc, it'll never happen. The tobacco payout was, I believe, the closest we will ever come.
 
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Juanita said:
My brother works for large, home improvement chain. He was given a document declaring him an "essential employee" and told to keep it in his vehicle. Just in case National Guard stops him going to or from his job. Is the company being proactive or panicking? Is martial law really next? Seems this company thinks it's likely.
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I have been given similar documents but I work for a lab provider inside UTMC.
 
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